Yes, I know it's subjective. And I do not like the colors on the Dragon Boxes. I don't know why people are pointing this out to me. I don't feel like putting "in my opinion" every time I write something.DinoChow wrote:I think that's completely, 100 percent subjective. I love the Dragon Box colors. Always have, even before I owned them and could only compare screen shots. There's something about the color scheme that has always looked "right" to me, and gorgeous to boot.Pokewhiz7 wrote:Close to the airing or not, the Dragon Box colors are shit.OWmyDragonBallz wrote:I for the life of me can not figure out why everyone is starting to bash the Dragon Boxes now ever since the blu-rays were released. People used to worship the Dragon box quality now they turn against it just because the colors aren't as "close" to the original airing quality.
Does that make the Blu-Ray version illegitimate or "Not-right?" No. They are two well-done, co-existing versions with alternate color schemes. And if you happen to prefer it, that doesn't automatically make the Dbox colors "shit." They've been the gold standard for close to a decade for good reason.
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Maybe if you first said that instead of saying the colors are shit.Pokewhiz7 wrote:Yes, I know it's subjective. And I do not like the colors on the Dragon Boxes. I don't know why people are pointing this out to me.
Well, if I recall correctly, the images used in the guidebooks and the like have been what is on the Dragon Boxes. I think that also contributed to putting the DBoxes on such a high pedestal. There was really no reason to doubt the colors up that point.TheBlackPaladin wrote:It's my opinion that, after the Season Sets came out--which were almost universally despised by everyone on this board--the Dragon Boxes started to take on a certain divine status as the "correct" way to release DB, DBZ, and DBGT. In other words, the Season Sets made the Dragon Boxes look a lot better than they otherwise might have. Almost every time I have seen fans describe the restoration process with the Dragon Boxes, it inevitably leads back to a bitter comparison of how lazy, rushed, and "incorrect" FUNimation's restoration efforts were with the Season Sets.
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I believe that a perfect DB/Z/GT (don't count Kai) release has yet to happen. The original Broadcast has correct colors, but crap 25 year old quality. Dragon Box is great, but sometimes redish. The LVs are great quality, better than DBox, but it's presented with English title cards, wrong openings(?) and no NEP. The Season sets were... So, do we have a truely 100% great release? Not yet. 
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I thought people would be smart enough to tell that it's an opinion.AgitoZ wrote:Maybe if you first said that instead of saying the colors are shit.
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I guess. But calling something shit and saying you don't like it are two completely different things.Pokewhiz7 wrote:I thought people would be smart enough to tell that it's an opinion.
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For that, Toei would have to remaster the entire Z series in 1080p HD, and gain back the broadcast audio, with everything that the Dragon Box had.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I believe that a perfect DB/Z/GT (don't count Kai) release has yet to happen. The original Broadcast has correct colors, but crap 25 year old quality. Dragon Box is great, but sometimes redish. The LVs are great quality, better than DBox, but it's presented with English title cards, wrong openings(?) and no NEP. The Season sets were... So, do we have a truely 100% great release? Not yet.
It'd be perfect!
I'm not happy with the FUNi DBZ Blu-rays 'cos of the English cards, no NEP's and the colours.
Sometimes people point out their say as a fact. And you should've said at least "imo" or "dis/like".Pokewhiz7 wrote:I thought people would be smart enough to tell that it's an opinion.AgitoZ wrote:Maybe if you first said that instead of saying the colors are shit.
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What the hell is wrong with the DBox audio? It doesn't sound very loud?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Muffled, quiet, and lacking in fidelity.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:What the hell is wrong with the DBox audio? It doesn't sound very loud?
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Then why don't you just... you know... turn up the volume?Pokewhiz7 wrote:Muffled, quiet, and lacking in fidelity.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:What the hell is wrong with the DBox audio? It doesn't sound very loud?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Well if we do get changes in the color it won't become closer to the Dragon box colours because the level sets are more accurate (even if you prefer the Dragon box colours).dbboxkaifan wrote:For that, Toei would have to remaster the entire Z series in 1080p HD, and gain back the broadcast audio, with everything that the Dragon Box had.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I believe that a perfect DB/Z/GT (don't count Kai) release has yet to happen. The original Broadcast has correct colors, but crap 25 year old quality. Dragon Box is great, but sometimes redish. The LVs are great quality, better than DBox, but it's presented with English title cards, wrong openings(?) and no NEP. The Season sets were... So, do we have a truely 100% great release? Not yet.
It'd be perfect!
I'm not happy with the FUNi DBZ Blu-rays 'cos of the English cards, no NEP's and the colours.
Sometimes people point out their say as a fact. And you should've said at least "imo" or "dis/like".Pokewhiz7 wrote:I thought people would be smart enough to tell that it's an opinion.AgitoZ wrote:Maybe if you first said that instead of saying the colors are shit.
Probably one of the fairest comments I've seen in regard to this 'debate'.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I believe that a perfect DB/Z/GT (don't count Kai) release has yet to happen. The original Broadcast has correct colors, but crap 25 year old quality. Dragon Box is great, but sometimes redish. The LVs are great quality, better than DBox, but it's presented with English title cards, wrong openings(?) and no NEP. The Season sets were... So, do we have a truely 100% great release? Not yet.
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Re: Dragon Box questions
The muffled audio doesn't bother me, but a clean audio like the broadcast version had, would be much better.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Then why don't you just... you know... turn up the volume?Pokewhiz7 wrote:Muffled, quiet, and lacking in fidelity.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:What the hell is wrong with the DBox audio? It doesn't sound very loud?
Turning it up, does help but not solve the problem.
Gonstead's topic of Dragon Box Audio Vs. Broadcast Audio - http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... =7&t=18506
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How can I fix the colors to look like the original?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: Dragon Box questions
You have to color correct it. There's no real good/easy way to do it in VLC that I know of, because you first have to remove the color cast doing a curves adjustment and then adjust a lot of other stuff.
For every episode.
One by one.
Here's a bit of a run through:
The color cast on every episode is different. Sometimes it's yellow, sometimes it's red, sometimes it's green... you get the idea. I don't have the time currently to explain how to properly do color cast removal, but the easiest way to do the calculations is to it in photoshop using the curves adjustment or the levels adjustment. I use curves and save an acv, because you can load that directly into this filter: http://members.chello.at/nagiller/vdub/downloads.html ... you can also feed the values directly into the levels adjustment of your favorite program.
Once you apply that to the video it will look a bit better, because it evens out the whites to a more proper neutral grey. It still doesn't look exactly right, though, and might look a bit more saturated.
So from here, you need some kind of reference as to what the colors are supposed to look like and then you can do a hue-saturation-lightness adjustment on the cyans and blues to fix the blues. From there, you usually need to adjust the reds down, along with -- as I mentioned before -- the overall saturation. This is the virtualdub filter I used -- http://neuron2.net/hue.html -- but anything that can control all the color channels individually will likely work.
Once I did all this, I saved it as a vcf, got the values and wrote an avisynth script.
For episode 1 of Dragon Ball on the Dragon Boxes, this is the part of my avs script that corrects the colors. Note that I did all the adjustments in Virtualdub and then saved the settings as a vcf before loading them into avisynth.
If you want to see it in motion, check out this thread: http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... =7&t=18698
Note I could have pushed the blues way way way farther than this, as well as easily upped the saturation. My technique of color correction though has been to attempt to preserve the luminosity of the footage while trying to match the colors to stuff like stills of the Dragon Book, scans of cels, Kei17's shots from original airings (with analogue degradation in mind), etc. etc. The point is you don't want to go hog wild with the colors, otherwise you'll have a youtube remaster on your hands.
If you mess around with this script, please don't ask me to troubleshoot it. It's not that I don't want to, but I'm just too busy at work currently to do the directions proper justice at this time. A number of people have PMed me about what I'm doing exactly, and this is the best I can do to explain it generally between jobs. As for the where I got the original japanese Dragon Box episodes: auctions.yahoo.jp.
I'm going to write a way more in depth post/article about this in the future, along with my findings about the actual film stock Toei used and their overall aging properties. I've found some interesting stuff on the Kodak film they used for Funi's masters that I need to get confirmed still, as well as some leads on what Japanese stock Toei liked to use.
The colors, color correcting it, etc. have been an endless debate on these boards, and I sort of want to put some facts out there about it, and why we're seeing colors like these. All things like this take time, though. So if you're interested in this stuff... please be patient.
Finally; The Dragon Box is amazing. The colors are way off, but it is great in terms of clarity, grain, and completeness considering the source they had to work with. It's just an aged master is all, and at the time they probably didn't have the resources to re-color correct 500 episodes... all of which all needed a vastly different approach. (There are some episodes where the coloring is so off the above is only the beginning of what you need to do; some of the first episodes of Z for instance.) It would've been a quality control nightmare. I love the new Blurays because they did a spectacular job remastering it, but the nerdy side of me wants those previews too.
For every episode.
One by one.
Here's a bit of a run through:
The color cast on every episode is different. Sometimes it's yellow, sometimes it's red, sometimes it's green... you get the idea. I don't have the time currently to explain how to properly do color cast removal, but the easiest way to do the calculations is to it in photoshop using the curves adjustment or the levels adjustment. I use curves and save an acv, because you can load that directly into this filter: http://members.chello.at/nagiller/vdub/downloads.html ... you can also feed the values directly into the levels adjustment of your favorite program.
Once you apply that to the video it will look a bit better, because it evens out the whites to a more proper neutral grey. It still doesn't look exactly right, though, and might look a bit more saturated.
So from here, you need some kind of reference as to what the colors are supposed to look like and then you can do a hue-saturation-lightness adjustment on the cyans and blues to fix the blues. From there, you usually need to adjust the reds down, along with -- as I mentioned before -- the overall saturation. This is the virtualdub filter I used -- http://neuron2.net/hue.html -- but anything that can control all the color channels individually will likely work.
Once I did all this, I saved it as a vcf, got the values and wrote an avisynth script.
For episode 1 of Dragon Ball on the Dragon Boxes, this is the part of my avs script that corrects the colors. Note that I did all the adjustments in Virtualdub and then saved the settings as a vcf before loading them into avisynth.
Here are the results.ConvertToRGB()
LoadVirtualdubplugin("C:\Program Files\Virtualdub\MOD\plugins\gradation.vdf", "VD_GradationCurves", 1)
LoadVirtualdubplugin("C:\Program Files\Virtualdub\MOD\plugins\Hue.vdf", "VD_Hue", 1)
VD_GradationCurves(1,"000102030405060708090a0b0c0d0e0f101112131415161718191a1b1c1d1e1f2021222
32425262728292a2b2c2d2e2f303132333435363738393a3b3c3d3e3f404142434445464748494a4b4c4d4e4f50
5152535455565758595a5b5c5d5e5f606162636465666768696a6b6c6d6e6f707172737475767778797a7b7c7d7
e7f808182838485868788898a8b8c8d8e8f909192939495969798999a9b9c9d9e9fa0a1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9aaaba
cadaeafb0b1b2b3b4b5b6b7b8b9babbbcbdbebfc0c1c2c3c4c5c6c7c8c9cacbcccdcecfd0d1d2d3d4d5d6d7d8d9dadb
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345464748494a4b4d4e4f5051525355565758595a5b5d5e5f6061626365666768696a6b6d6e6f70717273757677
78797a7b7d7e7f8081828485868788898a8c8d8e8f9091929495969798999a9c9d9e9fa0a1a2a4a5a6a7a8a9aaac
adaeafb0b1b2b4b5b6b7b8b9babcbdbebfc0c1c2c4c5c6c7c8c9cacccdcecfd0d1d2d4d5d6d7d8d9dadcdddedfe0e1e
2e4e5e6e7e8e9eaecedeeeff0f1f2f4f5f6f7f8f9fafcfdfeffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff0001020304
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2333435363738393a3b3c3d3e3f404142434445464748494a4b4c4d4e4f505152535455565758595a5b5c5d5e5f
606162636465666768696a6b6c6d6e6f707172737475767778797a7b7c7d7e7f808182838485868788898a8b8c8
d8e8f909192939495969798999a9b9c9d9e9fa0a1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9aaabacadaeafb0b1b2b3b4b5b6b7b8b9bab
bbcbdbebfc0c1c2c3c4c5c6c7c8c9cacbcccdcecfd0d1d2d3d4d5d6d7d8d9dadbdcdddedfe0e1e2e3e4e5e6e7e8e9eae
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4555758595a5b5c5d5e6061626364656668696a6b6c6d6e7071727374757678797a7b7c7d7e808182838485868
7898a8b8c8d8e8f91929394959697999a9b9c9d9e9fa1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8aaabacadaeafb0b2b3b4b5b6b7b8babbbc
bdbebfc0c2c3c4c5c6c7c8c9cbcccdcecfd0d1d3d4d5d6d7d8d9dbdcdddedfe0e1e3e4e5e6e7e8e9ebecedeeeff0f1f2f
4f5f6f7f8f9fafcfdfeffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff000102030405060708090a0b0c0d0e0f101112
131415161718191a1b1c1d1e1f202122232425262728292a2b2c2d2e2f303132333435363738393a3b3c3d3e3f4
04142434445464748494a4b4c4d4e4f505152535455565758595a5b5c5d5e5f606162636465666768696a6b6c6d
6e6f707172737475767778797a7b7c7d7e7f808182838485868788898a8b8c8d8e8f909192939495969798999a9
b9c9d9e9fa0a1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9aaabacadaeafb0b1b2b3b4b5b6b7b8b9babbbcbdbebfc0c1c2c3c4c5c6c7c8c9ca
cbcccdcecfd0d1d2d3d4d5d6d7d8d9dadbdcdddedfe0e1e2e3e4e5e6e7e8e9eaebecedeeeff0f1f2f3f4f5f6f7f8f9fafbf
cfdfeff","152222202020202020000ffff0000dfff0000ffff0000e0ff0000ffff")
VD_Hue(7, 0, 0, 0, 20)
VD_Hue(7, 1, 0, 0, 1)
VD_Hue(0, 0, -14, 0, 63)
ConvertToYV12()
If you want to see it in motion, check out this thread: http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... =7&t=18698
Note I could have pushed the blues way way way farther than this, as well as easily upped the saturation. My technique of color correction though has been to attempt to preserve the luminosity of the footage while trying to match the colors to stuff like stills of the Dragon Book, scans of cels, Kei17's shots from original airings (with analogue degradation in mind), etc. etc. The point is you don't want to go hog wild with the colors, otherwise you'll have a youtube remaster on your hands.
If you mess around with this script, please don't ask me to troubleshoot it. It's not that I don't want to, but I'm just too busy at work currently to do the directions proper justice at this time. A number of people have PMed me about what I'm doing exactly, and this is the best I can do to explain it generally between jobs. As for the where I got the original japanese Dragon Box episodes: auctions.yahoo.jp.
I'm going to write a way more in depth post/article about this in the future, along with my findings about the actual film stock Toei used and their overall aging properties. I've found some interesting stuff on the Kodak film they used for Funi's masters that I need to get confirmed still, as well as some leads on what Japanese stock Toei liked to use.
The colors, color correcting it, etc. have been an endless debate on these boards, and I sort of want to put some facts out there about it, and why we're seeing colors like these. All things like this take time, though. So if you're interested in this stuff... please be patient.
Finally; The Dragon Box is amazing. The colors are way off, but it is great in terms of clarity, grain, and completeness considering the source they had to work with. It's just an aged master is all, and at the time they probably didn't have the resources to re-color correct 500 episodes... all of which all needed a vastly different approach. (There are some episodes where the coloring is so off the above is only the beginning of what you need to do; some of the first episodes of Z for instance.) It would've been a quality control nightmare. I love the new Blurays because they did a spectacular job remastering it, but the nerdy side of me wants those previews too.
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Re: Dragon Box questions
That's basically what I do, only in photo form. I haven't edited the footage itself yet.
Anyway, this would be another good time to showcase an edit I literally just did. I just yesterday got my Dragon Box 6 in, and was watching the Majin Vegeta episodes when I noticed this really pink shot:
That's like, beyond the pinkness in some of the Saiyan arc episodes, which are notorious for being pink.
I then corrected it to this:
I didn't have any reference images, just a general idea of how it should look.
Thankfully the whole episode isn't pink like that:
Anyway, this would be another good time to showcase an edit I literally just did. I just yesterday got my Dragon Box 6 in, and was watching the Majin Vegeta episodes when I noticed this really pink shot:
That's like, beyond the pinkness in some of the Saiyan arc episodes, which are notorious for being pink.
I then corrected it to this:
I didn't have any reference images, just a general idea of how it should look.
Thankfully the whole episode isn't pink like that:
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"90% of you here don't even know what you're talking about (there are a few that do). But the things you say about these releases are nonsense and just plain dumb. Like you Metalwario64"--final_flash
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Re: Dragon Box questions
Ashura wrote:*MASSIVE POST*
Then I should correct the colors for 519+19 movies & specials? A lot of work, I just finished rewatching the whole series, and it took me all summer, so I'm not planning watching again all over again. So, never mind then, I'll stick with the DBox colors, they are not that bad anyway... Maybe when you do this more in depth article, I'll fix the fights and my favorite moments. 
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James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: Dragon Box questions
I'm not saying you should, I'm just saying what it would entail. What you do is up to you!DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Also, no reason to quote my entire post... that's a little bit wasteful for a short answer. You could've just quoted my first paragraph and got the same idea across.
My favorite movie henchman is Sancho.
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Re: Dragon Box questions
Of course you didn't say I should, but if I ever did, I may force myself to fix them all (I'm a Mr. Perfect in those thingsAshura wrote:I'm not saying you should, I'm just saying what it would entail. What you do is up to you!
Also, no reason to quote my entire post... that's a little bit wasteful for a short answer. You could've just quoted my first paragraph and got the same idea across.
). Oh, and I fixed the quote too. 
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.