He wanted the kids to defeat Boo themselves because he didn't belong in the living world anymore. He said himself that it was a gamble. Not that I necessarily agree with Rocketman's opinion, though.hleV wrote:Goku would've killed Fat Boo himself if he didn't believe in that.Rocketman wrote: The kids hadn't even learned the fusion dance when Goku said that. He was bullshitting to buy more time.
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Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
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I'm aware of that.Piccolo Daimao wrote:He wanted the kids to defeat Boo themselves because he didn't belong in the living world anymore.hleV wrote: Goku would've killed Fat Boo himself if he didn't believe in that.
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I know, I'm just saying that Goku himself may not have wholly believed in Gotenks' power because of that. He felt that he shouldn't be the one to destroy Boo, and that it was better for the future to have the kids do it. Goku didn't know for sure how strong Gotenks would be, and whether or not he could destroy Boo.hleV wrote:I'm aware of that.Piccolo Daimao wrote:He wanted the kids to defeat Boo themselves because he didn't belong in the living world anymore.hleV wrote:Goku would've killed Fat Boo himself if he didn't believe in that.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
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Who cares about what Goku says anymore? He became a seline old man
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The same Slug that couldn't tank the Kaioken X100.perucho1990 wrote:The same Slug that couldnt tank Kaioken X10? lol.Saiga wrote:Lord Slug, definitely. According to one of the other threads here, he was supposed to be stronger than Freeza.Nineteen wrote:Piccolo (post-Nail fusion) vs. Lord Slug (Young)
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Do we even know what level of Kaio-ken Goku used to burst through Slug?
On-topic, I think Piccolo would demolish Slug, because I don't think Slug is even close to breaking a million.
On-topic, I think Piccolo would demolish Slug, because I don't think Slug is even close to breaking a million.
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Goku used Kaio-Ken X100, if the new info's legit.
I think Piccolo wins here.
I think Piccolo wins here.
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...Piccolo being more than 100x stronger than Goku?Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Goku used Kaio-Ken X100, if the new info's legit.
I think Piccolo wins here.
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What new info? And, at this point, the highest level of Kaio-ken Goku could use is x10. But I don't recall him mentioning the level when he used it, which would lead me to believe that he used the regular Kaio-ken, regardless of whether or not it fits with anyone's subjective battle power lists.Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Goku used Kaio-Ken X100, if the new info's legit.
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Wut?
I don't think Piccolo is anywhere near that much stronger than Goku. I think Young Slug is around a million or so before becoming a Giant. Piccolo shouldn't have much difficulty here.
Daimao, it's in that Coola's Battle Power thread. Herms said the scan says Goku used a Kaio-Ken X100.
http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... =8&t=18721
I don't think Piccolo is anywhere near that much stronger than Goku. I think Young Slug is around a million or so before becoming a Giant. Piccolo shouldn't have much difficulty here.
Daimao, it's in that Coola's Battle Power thread. Herms said the scan says Goku used a Kaio-Ken X100.
http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... =8&t=18721
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I...I don't even know how to respond that. That makes...soooooo little sense it must be a mistake. So apparently Goku's gone from only being able to use Kaio-ken x10 to freakin' Kaio-Ken x100 that's unconfirmed even within the film?! That makes him twice as strong as Super Saiyan, and equal to Super Saiyan 2!Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Daimao, it's in that Coola's Battle Power thread. Herms said the scan says Goku used a Kaio-Ken X100.
http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... =8&t=18721
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We know, however it's just a movie, don't take it so serious. Especially considering it was released before Goku transformed in Super Saiyan against Freeza, they had no way to know that 100x is actually much better than the actual Super Saiyan power.
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I know, but even taking that into account, why make such a big jump from x10 to x100 for no apparent reason? Secondly, this piece of V-Jump info seems as if it came from a guy that just doesn't know what he's talking about, but Goku never even says "x100" when he uses the Kaio-ken against Slug, nor does anyone like Kaio or someone else chime in to confirm the level. The only time in the manga/anime (excluding movies) that a Kaio-ken is used without the level being mentioned by Goku personally is when Goku uses the Kaio-ken x10 against Freeza, and Kaio tells Tenshinhan and co. that he's using it.Fox666 wrote:We know, however it's just a movie, don't take it so serious. Especially considering it was released before Goku transformed in Super Saiyan against Freeza, they had no way to know that 100x is actually much better than the actual Super Saiyan power.
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It is not more weird than the "Super Kaio-ken" used against Paikuhan, however.
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Goku knew how effective the fusion dance was thus making what Goku said completely legit.Rocketman wrote:The kids hadn't even learned the fusion dance when Goku said that. He was bullshitting to buy more time.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:SSJ Gotenks was estimated by Goku to be more than enough to finish off Fat Boo for good
SSjin Gotenks(pre RoSaT)>/=SSjin3 Goku>Fat Buu is completely supported by Goku's statements and Gotenks being sensed from the Kaioshin realm (pre RoSaT).
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Perhaps.Fox666 wrote:It is not more weird than the "Super Kaio-ken" used against Paikuhan, however.
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I could believe in that wasn't for Goku turning senile at this point of the series.FNF wrote:Goku knew how effective the fusion dance was thus making what Goku said completely legit.
SSjin Gotenks(pre RoSaT)>/=SSjin3 Goku>Fat Buu is completely supported by Goku's statements and Gotenks being sensed from the Kaioshin realm (pre RoSaT).
Technically Gotenks doesn't need to be equal to Goku, everyone was flabbergasted by Goku new transformed, but not so much by Gotenks.
If we estimate the strength of the fat Majin Boo based on that Gohan filled half of the energy required to revive him, he should be around half of Goku strength as a Super Saiyan 3, and that leaves a lot of room for Gotenks.
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seline
I think you mean senile.
I think it was just a case of knowing how much potential the kids had and how much the fusion adds to that potential.
Goku had been right after all, Gotenks was strong enough to defeat Buu.
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No, Goku was wrong, Gotenks always forget about the time limit and screwed up each time he was in a fight. 
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No, Goku was right ....about Gotenks strength, which was what I said in the first place.No, Goku was wrong,
That he ended up being such an air head is another matter and nobody could have predicted that.