Dragon Ball Z's ending

[Michsi]

I explained why. Gohan's potential would've been built up, only to not go anywhere

The kid had proven himself worthy of being Goku's successor , even without having a specific and grand moment like defeating Cell. It would have ended with us having no doubt that Gohan had the stuff for becoming the next strongest fighter. Think of it as something similar with what we got with Uub in the final chapter. We don't actually get to see what becomes of him, but we don't need to.

[SylentEcho]

I like the Z ending because like Toriyama himself said in the last volume, it gives us a sense of continuity. The story doesn't seem like it's over.

[kemuri07]

I like the Z ending because like Toriyama himself said in the last volume, it gives us a sense of continuity. The story doesn't seem like it's over.

I'd rather have a story end with a "closed ending," but end strong, than an open-ended ending; especially when that ending led to GT.

[Gaffer Tape]

Toriyama's story never led to Dragon Ball GT. Aside from doing some of the character sketches and logo design for GT, Toriyama ended his manga right there and has yet to ever pick it up again. Feels pretty complete for an open-ended ending. And even if it had closed out more definitively, that probably wouldn't have stopped Toei from trying to continue it.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I explained why. Gohan's potential would've been built up, only to not go anywhere

Being able to knock Freeza around 13 months after Raditz doesn't count?

Goku trumped Gohan's potential by becoming the unbeatable Super Saiyan anyways.

Yeah, that's what I mean, Gohan was still largely overshadowed by Goku and Super Saiyan. And when I say that his potential didn't go anywhere, I mean that, if the Freeza arc ended the series, he'd still just be that kid whose hidden power was awakened whenever he got angry. In the Cell arc, when Gohan reached Super Saiyan 2, it was portrayed as Gohan finally accessing all that power into one stable, contained form without having to rage all the time for it.

Basically, in the Cell arc, the story gave closure on Gohan's power, because without it, it would still feel like there'd be more to go on developing Gohan's power.

[Rocketman]

You're forgetting that Gohan is terrible and should never be given anything ever.

[GreggMays64]

The reason Gohan wouldn't be a good hero is because he is a pacifist. He hates fighting, and doesn't train like Goku and Piccolo. He's too focused on his goal of becoming a schoolar. What good will that do him if he can't reach his real goal in life.

[Piccolo Daimao]

The reason Gohan wouldn't be a good hero is because he is a pacifist. He hates fighting, and doesn't train like Goku and Piccolo. He's too focused on his goal of becoming a schoolar. What good will that do him if he can't reach his real goal in life.

He doesn't hate fighting. He just doesn't like it. But the rest is true.

[Michsi]

You're forgetting that Gohan is terrible and should never be given anything ever.

You're forgetting that Gohan is the only one that genuinely cares about protecting and therefore deserves everything. Especially power.

Out of all saiyans, guess who would be most concerned about saving you in case you needed it.

The reason Gohan wouldn't be a good hero is because he is a pacifist.

That's exactly the reason why he would be a good hero. The keyword here being hero. When they went to find Babidi he is the only one that noticed the people who had been killed and was severely angry about it.

[Rocketman]

Out of all saiyans, guess who would be most concerned about saving you in case you needed it.

Gohan would be too busy crying and trying to talk to the crazy killer.

[Michsi]

crying

His 5 year old self?

trying to talk to the crazy killer.

Trying the non-violent approach? Heaven forbid.


Face it, he is the one who cares the most.

[Rocketman]

His 5 year old self?

Cell Games self too. Also hallucinating birds and getting his dad and Trunks killed. *golf clap*

Trying the non-violent approach? Heaven forbid.

Trying the non-violent approach on somebody who ATE PEOPLE ALIVE is completely retarded.

Face it, he is the one who cares the most.

True, but that's not saying much with who you're comparing him to.

Note that I'm not talking Buu arc Gohan here, just the Cell Games ending Gohan.

[Michsi]

Cell Games self too. Also hallucinating birds and getting his dad and Trunks killed. *golf clap*

Oh , you mean where his dad left him in state of distress? I'm talking about regular Gohan, the one who gets pissed off when he sees innocent people get hurt, people he doesn't know or has any attachments to, and jumps in to save them despite being outnumbered and overwhelmed.

Trying the non-violent approach on somebody who ATE PEOPLE ALIVE is completely retarded.

Or childish. As it happens with kids. Who don't like to kill. And get pushed into a situation without a warning, their consent or help.

True, but that's not saying much with who you're comparing him to.

It's saying everything when we are talking about who deserves to be the hero. While I'm not a fan of power via "who my parents are", he at least deserves them, from my moral perspective.

Note that I'm not talking Buu arc Gohan here, just the Cell Games ending Gohan.

And I was talking about Buu Arc Gohan, because that's what he grows up to be, somebody who actually embraces some responsibility towards the common man.

[Rocketman]

Well see, that changes the whole deal. I agree with you that Buu arc Gohan is the best hero material in DB.

BUT that Gohan doesn't exist if the show stops at the ever-popular Cell Games ending. Without the Buu arc, all we are left with is whining and mindless rage.

[Saiga]

Well see, that changes the whole deal. I agree with you that Buu arc Gohan is the best hero material in DB.

BUT that Gohan doesn't exist if the show stops at the ever-popular Cell Games ending. Without the Buu arc, all we are left with is whining and mindless rage.

Wait, I was under the impression that you hated Boo arc Gohan as well?

[AgitoZ]

BUT that Gohan doesn't exist if the show stops at the ever-popular Cell Games ending. Without the Buu arc, all we are left with is whining and mindless rage.

Doesn't a hypothetical ending at a different point in the series already imply some things would/have to be changed?

[Michsi]

BUT that Gohan doesn't exist if the show stops at the ever-popular Cell Games ending. Without the Buu arc, all we are left with is whining and mindless rage.

Buu arc Gohan is who I always envisioned him to become, sans the saiya-man goofiness. Whether it was the Freeza saga or the Cell Saga doesn't change that. One showed me that it doesn't matter whether he knows the person or not, if he sees innocent people getting hurt, he'll intervene no matter what and the Cell Saga just showed that unlike his father, he takes less joy fighting, which would imply that there is a lesser chance of him pulling stunts like "here, have a senzu."

[DBZ Mick]

I explained why. Gohan's potential would've been built up, only to not go anywhere

Being able to knock Freeza around 13 months after Raditz doesn't count?

Goku trumped Gohan's potential by becoming the unbeatable Super Saiyan anyways.

Have to agree with Rocketman. Gohan's potential really went nowhere in the end of the series with Goku and Vegeta saving the day.

We just know he's got the potential to be the strongest character.

I wouldn't call it a loose end at all.

[kemuri07]

I explained why. Gohan's potential would've been built up, only to not go anywhere

Being able to knock Freeza around 13 months after Raditz doesn't count?

Goku trumped Gohan's potential by becoming the unbeatable Super Saiyan anyways.

Have to agree with Rocketman. Gohan's potential really went nowhere in the end of the series with Goku and Vegeta saving the day.

We just know he's got the potential to be the strongest character.

I wouldn't call it a loose end at all.

Well, considering that it's Goku's story, that's not really surprising.

[Saiga]

Dragon Ball covers Goku going from a child to adult, and Z covers the same with Gohan. Ending it earlier would have prevented that.