The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Michsi]

Earth's martial arts are superior?

When it comes to ki manipulation and everything related to that, it seems so, yes. The aliens might have been stronger than them, but they were virtually blind without scouters and such.

[Saiga]

True, but Raditz says something along the lines of Goku not having the necessary training to beat him even if he had the power, so I assumed Raditz had better skills in hand to hand combat.

[Michsi]

True, but Raditz says something along the lines of Goku not having the necessary training to beat him even if he had the power, so I assumed Raditz had better skills in hand to hand combat.

Training can mean a lot of things, but I don't remember that part about Raditz claiming that. I do remember Goku though, stating that if Raditz thought that power meant everthing, then he was no real fighter, which I assumed meant that Raditz was the one who cared only about power, a more primitive approach to fighing. But then again, this is from Viz so I don't what was said in the original.

[In Brightest Day]

Apparently his battle power at the time was 610. Do you think his paralysis would work on an opponent nearly twice as strong as him?

It worked on Goku, who was also a lot stronger than him.

True, I had forgotten that.

Yamcha (BP 1440) vs Raditz (BP 1500)?

Basically what Kaboom said.

Raditz is such a twerp that he somehow found a way to lose to two guys far weaker than himself. Regardless of whether he had a weakness or not, that's a stupendously idiotic situation to get yourself in. IMO, Yamcha takes this without too much trouble, with the only real issue being that Raditz' most likely has a durability advantage.

[Rocketman]

Yamcha always loses.

[Saiga]

Yamcha always loses.

There is also this to consider.

[Fox666]

I thought of that too. It's kind of funny that the Daizenshuu profile also mentions that.

[In Brightest Day]

Yamcha always loses.

Yamcha won a fight, Raditz didn't. Even if we were going to play the silly "Yamcha is a loser" card, it'd be moot in this fight.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Yamcha always loses.

Yamcha won a fight, Raditz didn't. Even if we were going to play the silly "Yamcha is a loser" card, it'd be moot in this fight.

But Raditz had only ONE fight. Yamcha had MANY fights.

[Fox666]

Raditz humilhated Piccolo, and later beat Goku and Kuririn. There are 3 fights, with 66% of chance of sucess, while Yamcha is only 0.1%.

[In Brightest Day]

Yamcha always loses.

Yamcha won a fight, Raditz didn't. Even if we were going to play the silly "Yamcha is a loser" card, it'd be moot in this fight.

But Raditz had only ONE fight. Yamcha had MANY fights.

Yamcha had many fights against people FAR stronger than himself. Not comparable situations.

Raditz humilhated Piccolo, and later beat Goku and Kuririn. There are 3 fights, with 66% of chance of sucess, while Yamcha is only 0.1%.

Anything before the fight against Goku & Piccolo was in no way a 'fight'. And again, beating down & shrugging off attacks from people far weaker than himself is in no way an impressive feat.

I'm being 100% serious with this question: You're trolling, right?

[Fox666]

"Troll" has lost meaning these days... anything you post that someone else dislikes and you are a "troll"...

[Saiga]

"Troll" has lost meaning these days... anything you post that someone else dislikes and you are a "troll"...

Agreed.

I really think Raditz would win, provided Yamcha doesn't get ahold of his tail somehow. However I think against 1 opponent (and one closer to him in strength) Raditz wouldn't let his guard down enough for his tail to be grabbed.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I'd give it to Raditz. Yamcha had enough trouble fighting a weaker Cultivar, lol. I don't think his martial arts skills would make that much of a difference here, if at all.

[Kaboom]

Yamcha "won" that fight pretty easily, actually. He just got cocky while the Saibaiman got desperate, and such was his undoing.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

It looked even to me when they were moving at fast speed. He gained the upperhand when the Cultivar blindly jumped at him, which left him open. Good thing Raditz is stronger and smarter than them.

[lash]

Yamcha likely loses again.

I thought of that too. It's kind of funny that the Daizenshuu profile also mentions that.

Ironically, during the 23rd Tournament Bulma mentions such about Yamcha's luck in the original anime too.

[Saiga]

Well, Yamcha clearly didn't win that fight. The Saibaman won.

[In Brightest Day]

Well, Yamcha clearly didn't win that fight. The Saibaman won.

The Cultivar died just like Yamcha did. How is that a victory? At the very most it's a draw. Even ignoring the desperate suicide, Yamcha had clearly defeated it and shown he was a far better fighter.

"Troll" has lost meaning these days... anything you post that someone else dislikes and you are a "troll"...

When someone is saying something irrational, yeah, I'll probably throw it out there. Maybe the term "grasping at straws" would have been more suitable, in your case.


Anyway, I don't see how Raditz can win here. I've never, ever read a reasonable explanation as to why Yamcha is an incompetent fighter on any board I've been on. Superior training and superior techniques. What makes this so ironic is that people are using the "Yamcha sucks" card against Raditz. I'll repeat, Yamcha lost to people that were far stronger than himself; and even then, the majority of his opponents all commended him in defeat saying that he was very good fighter. Raditz lost to two people three times weaker than himself.

So, let's go down the run sheet.

- Yamcha has better Ki control.

- Yamcha has a better track record (1 victory versus 0, and actual praise from his peers).

- Yamcha has far superior training.

That puts Raditz at a distinct advantage. When you're this close in power, skill is everything. And Raditz doesn't have any.

Anyway, Yamcha wins rather handily. This fight shouldn't have gone past Kabooms initial post. Honestly.

[Kid Buu]

Yamcha (with Krillins help) beat The Invisible Man (who had Babas help)

Yamcha & Puar beat Oozaru Goku...if you count that as a fight.