FUNimation DBZ TV Blu-ray Official On-Going Thread

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:03 pm

Well, for some people, constant re-releases seem like being jerked around. They tell you the new sets are the best way to view the show and then a year later they tell you even (supposedly) better releases are coming out and your ultimate sets seem less awesome in comparison.

And others feel like Funimation should be concentrating on different titles. This I disagree with on the grounds that as long as DBZ is raking in the cash, it's healthy for the company, because then they have money to buy other licenses. The better DBZ does for Funimation, the better the company does period. So they can milk it for as long as they want, because that means more shows getting licensed, better ones usually.

My problem with Mr. Kimlinger's review wasn't just that I disagreed with him about the dub. It was the lack of eleboration for the "Schemmel clearly outclasses Nozawa". He says "clearly" as an excuse for not elaborating on why. In other words he's saying it's so superior that anyone can notice it. That kind of statement is fine if you're just chatting about the show, but in a review, it should be eleborated on. I want to know why he feels that way.

monster wrote: He also seems to be a huge fan of Eden of the East a show in which one of the female heroes cuts off penises for her enjoyment, so I could see this guy not liking something like DBZ with it's masculine themes and testosterone fueled action.

Eden of the East is a damn good show.

MarcFBR · Post by **MarcFBR** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:16 pm

Having read his review now I can honestly say...

Outside of a few mistakes and a few differences of opinion, I find it to be a good review. It doesn't match my personal style or preferences for writing, but I find it to be a relatively decent review of the material (my preference tends to slide more towards the technical side, but that has never been the ANN style, so I don't look for it from them.)

As for his comments about the remastering- He isn't technically wrong. He agrees the series hasn't looked as sharp/crisp before. And his point is generally valid that with the quality of animation you aren't generally gaining much. Some sharpness for sure, but you aren't really gaining much in detail. This is a common argument for low budget productions getting an upgrade to BD though. I'm glad I have the choice regardless.

As for the audio mistake- Doesn't honestly bother me. When a show comes out enough times I can understand someone mixing up aspects of releases.

On the Dub- I disagree here, but then this is something that is purely opinion based. I can understand what he means though. If you ignore some issues the dub CAN be a fun bombastic action packed ride and I can understand his preference for Schemmel, even if I don't agree with it.

I generally feel it's a decent review.

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:06 pm

Pokewhiz7 wrote:Why do people get mad over rereleases? I really don't understand. A cliched argument, yes, but...just don't buy them! If you're happy with the Dragon Boxes and don't want to/can't spend the money on another edition of the series, don't, but that doesn't make this any less of a product.

FUNimation should not be constantly re-releasing the same show over and over again, there are tons of anime series that deserve to be licensed and seen by English speakers.

For example, 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother aka Marco.

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:18 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote: FUNimation should not be constantly re-releasing the same show over and over again, there are tons of anime series that deserve to be licensed and seen by English speakers.

Like I said, as long as DBZ is profitable for them, it pays for other shows to be licensed. Funimation isn't the biggest anime licensor in America now because of Casshern Sins, but because of DBZ. Letting them milk DBZ is fine with me.

dballfan · Post by **dballfan** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:30 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Pokewhiz7 wrote:Why do people get mad over rereleases? I really don't understand. A cliched argument, yes, but...just don't buy them! If you're happy with the Dragon Boxes and don't want to/can't spend the money on another edition of the series, don't, but that doesn't make this any less of a product.
FUNimation should not be constantly re-releasing the same show over and over again, there are tons of anime series that deserve to be licensed and seen by English speakers.

For example, 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother aka Marco.

I can understand where you are coming from, but it is inevitable that with time more releases will come out - this applies for anything really. Who knows in the future there may be superior formats than Blu-ray and DBZ could be re-released on that format again. Yes there are arguably more releases than you'd expect for one series, but hey, people will always buy them and hence Funimation will make there profit, which is there job.
On topic GreenQuality2nd has uploaded another video, demonstrating DNR again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BItJ0J_x ... r_embedded

MarcFBR · Post by **MarcFBR** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:40 pm

penguintruth wrote:Like I said, as long as DBZ is profitable for them, it pays for other shows to be licensed. Funimation isn't the biggest anime licensor in America now because of Casshern Sins, but because of DBZ. Letting them milk DBZ is fine with me.

Exactly.

Them milking DBZ allows them to take risks on other shows.

And even purchase things that there isn't any risk, but requires a decent investment.

As an example- Quality Geneon Japan stuff like Hellsing Ultimate, the Index franchise, etc.

I look forward to DBZ in 4k/3d on isolinear chips, cause it'll mean we are getting Crazy Awesome Show OF THE FUTURE!

dbboxkaifan wrote:there are tons of anime series that deserve to be licensed and seen by English speakers.

For example, 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother aka Marco.

No one is going to buy that. And DBZ won't fund that, because Funimation knows it won't sell.

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:12 pm

Yeah, you might as well ask when Funimation is going to license Legend of the Galactic Heroes.

CyberpunkCentral · Post by **CyberpunkCentral** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:16 pm

I don't think fans are mad because FUNimation keeps re-releasing the series. Rather, it's the bad timing. It's not FUNimation's fault. First there's the Orange Bricks which are the standard release. Then you have the Dragon Box, which is a limited time only release for Japanese fans. Then Toei announces Dragon Ball Kai, so of course FUNimation is going to bring that here in the US. Why not? Now, FUNimation has more money and access to Blu-ray than ever before. So it was the right time to release the series on Blu-ray. So yeah, I don't think FUNimation deserves all this hate for re-releasing the series. In fact, I think it's kinda cool that we have all these options to buy the series.

thedarkuniter · Post by **thedarkuniter** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:38 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Pokewhiz7 wrote:Why do people get mad over rereleases? I really don't understand. A cliched argument, yes, but...just don't buy them! If you're happy with the Dragon Boxes and don't want to/can't spend the money on another edition of the series, don't, but that doesn't make this any less of a product.
FUNimation should not be constantly re-releasing the same show over and over again, there are tons of anime series that deserve to be licensed and seen by English speakers.

For example, 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother aka Marco.

Don't forget Dr. Slump, Sailor Moon, Galaxy Express 999 or Captain Harlock. Anyway, not to get off-topic, I don't really read other reviews, I may disagree about the author's opinions on the original dub, but it's not really bad. Of course, on my Youtube channel, I can say a film is good or bad but does that make it a bad review? While opinions sneak through in a review, a goal of a review is to inform the reader on what the actual product is about and dub opinions aside, I think the reviewer did that.

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:52 pm

CyberpunkCentral wrote:I don't think fans are mad because FUNimation keeps re-releasing the series. Rather, it's the bad timing. It's not FUNimation's fault. First there's the Orange Bricks which are the standard release. Then you have the Dragon Box, which is a limited time only release for Japanese fans. Then Toei announces Dragon Ball Kai, so of course FUNimation is going to bring that here in the US. Why not? Now, FUNimation has more money and access to Blu-ray than ever before. So it was the right time to release the series on Blu-ray. So yeah, I don't think FUNimation deserves all this hate for re-releasing the series. In fact, I think it's kinda cool that we have all these options to buy the series.

FUNimation is yet to announce Z Kai: 7th Part (March 2012?) and the 8th (May 2012?), there'll probably be a 2-3 months separation between the two, like they used to do, if I remember correctly.

Are they waiting for Nicktoons to all air 97 episodes and then announce Z Kai 7 Blu-ray & DVD? We'll find out sometime during this month, hopefully.

Ani-Nation7 · Post by **Ani-Nation7** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:59 pm

You're silly. They did announce it.

Dragon Ball Z - Level 2.1 (BR) March 27th $34.98
Dragon Ball Z - Level 2.2 (BR) March 27th - $34.98
Dragon Ball Z Kai, Part 7 (DVD) March 20th - $29.98
Dragon Ball Z Kai, Part 7 (BR) March 20th - $34.98

http://www.funimation.com/funimation-ge ... nt-1492541

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:15 pm

Ani-Nation7 wrote:Ur silly they did announce it.

Dragon Ball Z - Level 2.1 (BR) March 27th $34.98
Dragon Ball Z - Level 2.2 (BR) March 27th - $34.98
Dragon Ball Z Kai, Part 7 (DVD) March 20th - $29.98
Dragon Ball Z Kai, Part 7 (BR) March 20th - $34.98

http://www.funimation.com/funimation-ge ... nt-1492541

Insulting? Why?

I wasn't yet aware of it.

Craddle · Post by **Craddle** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:37 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Ani-Nation7 wrote:Ur silly they did announce it.

Dragon Ball Z - Level 2.1 (BR) March 27th $34.98
Dragon Ball Z - Level 2.2 (BR) March 27th - $34.98
Dragon Ball Z Kai, Part 7 (DVD) March 20th - $29.98
Dragon Ball Z Kai, Part 7 (BR) March 20th - $34.98

http://www.funimation.com/funimation-ge ... nt-1492541
Insulting? Why?

I wasn't yet aware of it.

Don't mind him. He does that to everyone. He also just found out himself only minutes before posting this.

Anyways, we should try to stay on track.

Level 2.1 and 2.2 at the same time FUNi? That's good news I guess, as long as you can afford to buy both. I guess our assumptions of it taking 3 years to release them all just went out the window.

dballfan · Post by **dballfan** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:46 pm

Craddle wrote:
dbboxkaifan wrote:
Ani-Nation7 wrote:Ur silly they did announce it.

Dragon Ball Z - Level 2.1 (BR) March 27th $34.98
Dragon Ball Z - Level 2.2 (BR) March 27th - $34.98
Dragon Ball Z Kai, Part 7 (DVD) March 20th - $29.98
Dragon Ball Z Kai, Part 7 (BR) March 20th - $34.98

http://www.funimation.com/funimation-ge ... nt-1492541
Insulting? Why?

I wasn't yet aware of it.
Don't mind him. He does that to everyone. He also just found out himself only minutes before posting this.

Anyways, we should try to stay on track.

Level 2.1 and 2.2 at the same time FUNi? That's good news I guess, as long as you can afford to buy both. I guess our assumptions of it taking 3 years to release all just went out the window.

Personally I never suspected it to take that long I mean in the sneak peeks and stuff they showed scenes of the trunks/androids suggesting that they have already done quite a few.

thedarkuniter · Post by **thedarkuniter** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:47 pm

Finally, release dates! Took them long enough.

Craddle · Post by **Craddle** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:49 pm

dballfan wrote:Personally I never suspected it to take that long I mean in the sneak peeks and stuff they showed scenes of the trunks/androids suggesting that they have already done quite a few.

Yeah, I never really did either. I was just going off of what other people were guessing. I never actually put much thought in it. Even though I do really want to collect all these, I am highly content with my DBoxes.

DBfan4life · Post by **DBfan4life** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:00 pm

Hey this is good news if they are releasing the levels this quick. I know nobody will probably really know, but I was wondering if anyone thinks they will include the cards that come with these level sets once they re-release them as full levels. I know there has been no announcement or anything, but I'm just making a guess that it will eventually come to that like it always does. Always.

Craddle · Post by **Craddle** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:04 pm

DBfan4life wrote:Hey this is good news if they are releasing the levels this quick. I know nobody will probably really know, but I was wondering if anyone thinks they will include the cards that come with these level sets once they re-release them as full levels. I know there has been no announcement or anything, but I'm just making a guess that it will eventually come to that like it always does. Always.

I would surely hope so. If they didn't include the card, I would assume most nostalgic fans would just buy the individual releases instead. I do hope that when they do release the full levels, they at least attempt to do a little work with the packaging.

DBfan4life · Post by **DBfan4life** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:12 pm

Craddle wrote:I would surely hope so. If they didn't include the card, I would assume most nostalgic fans would just buy the individual releases instead. I do hope that when they do release the full levels, they at least attempt to do a little work with the packaging.

Yeah I hope they include it too. The packaging, although I haven't seen it in person, could be better. You know how Funimation has been doing the limited edition boxes and stuff for some of there new releases, I want something like that. I know there is the Dragon Boxes, but I got those already. Maybe its just me wanting more limited edition box sets to be released. I don't know.

dballfan · Post by **dballfan** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:51 pm

The packaging design is same for all of Funimation's products nowadays i.e the case with a standard slipcover. I wouldn't bank on them changing it drastically for the double's (I'm assuming they will release a double set which would be called 'Level X', for example level 1 would include 1.1, 1.2 and Level 2 would have 2.1 and 2.2 etc etc. They may do seasons too). I'd be surprised if they do a alternate design if it is released as a double set.

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