Dragon Ball Film Reboot

[Kendamu]

Chris Nolan could make a faithful Dragon Ball Z film, it would be dark, scary and somewhat in real life. His films are brilliant, Batman Begins & Dark Knight are my favourite, Inception too, I'd say.

Look, I love Nolan as much as anyone else, but you need to realize that he has a specific directing style that does not fit the over-the-top nature of DragonBall.

Anyways, the problem with Scott Pilgrim (though the film itself is pretty great) is that there is a parodic tone that's evident throughout the movie, and the film purposely draws attention to how fake and silly its world is.

That style doesn't exactly fit DBZ because--as silly as it can be--it's a show that takes itself seriously. I'm of the opinion that the show wouldn't work in a live-action context anyways, and having a bunch of actors attempt to recreate the costumes from the show would end up looking corny.

Batman is equally as over-the-top as Dragon Ball, in my opinion. First, the usage of many different gadgets, Batman's "deep" voice, the Batcave, the Batmobile and so on. There's really not one form of media that isn't over-the-top unless it's a real-life documentary.

That's a very different type of over-the-top than Dragonball. Unless Christopher Nolan was gonna "try something different" and do a feel-good Shonen action adventure with friendship, magic, and fighting with lots of colors and such, I don't think his brand of film making would suit the style of Dragonball Z.

[MarcFBR]

The idea of a Nolan DBZ is hilarious.

Let's ignore that DBZ isn't really 'dark' in the sense of a Nolan film.

You want Nolan to do DBZ, a series full of crazy powers and aliens and so forth... when his version of Batman had everything that wasn't (reasonably) real world removed?


That DBZ movie is already basically being made...

Film remake of the series Kung Fu.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I'm glad there weren't any laugh tracks, LTs ruin the series for me.

This.

A laugh track, used to remind people when to laugh. I was watching TV the other day and happened to stumble upon "Two and a Half Men", it was the start of the episode, the opening finished, Charlie Sheen walked through the door and the audience laughed. I mean, is that an American thing only? America has some good comedies, but Two and a Half Men is terrible. FOX has some good shows, Family Guy, American Dad and Arrested Development but the people at FOX can't have much involvement in them.

I think laugh tracks are used well when they're blended in with the sitcom and its style. For example, I love Friends, and I couldn't imagine it without the laugh track, because...it just wouldn't work. That's just its style.

And yeah, Two and a Half Men is shit.

Batman is equally as over-the-top as Dragon Ball, in my opinion. First, the usage of many different gadgets, Batman's "deep" voice, the Batcave, the Batmobile and so on. There's really not one form of media that isn't over-the-top unless it's a real-life documentary.

If you're talking about the camp '60s Batman TV series (minus the "deep" voice), then yes. But if you're talking about the dark type of Batman, a la Christopher Nolan's Batman film series, then no. Just...no.

[thedarkuniter]

Actually, I was thinking about Nolan's Batman, but now that you mentioned it, Adam West's Batman is over-the-top as well. My counter arguement was that Batman and forms of media is well, over-the-top after the original poster stated that Batman isn't over-the-top.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Yeah, the 1960s Batman TV series is the kind of over-the-top that could mesh with DB. I don't think Nolan's Batman film series is over-the-top, some do, but even so, it's not the kind that could mesh with DB.

[kemuri07]

At its core, Batman is a relatively realistic character (as far as comic book heroes go)--at least compared to something like Superman, or DBZ. Hence, why it's far more easier to ground that character in some sense of reality.

Could it be possible to create a more grounded version of DBZ? The question is: Why would you want to?


In fact, why the hell would anyone want a live-action DBZ anyways? Isn't part of its charm is that it is an extremely expressive cartoon?

[Piccolo Daimao]

Could it be possible to create a more grounded version of DBZ?

No. Because then it wouldn't be Dragon Ball.

[kemuri07]

Could it be possible to create a more grounded version of DBZ?

No. Because then it wouldn't be Dragon Ball.

Or at least an incredibly different interpretation of the series.

[B]

The Dragon Ball story proper doesn't lend itself to live-action well at all. I'd rather see some abridged/tangiently related stories, like a film about the Red Ribbon Army, or Mr. Satan prepping for the fight against Cell, or something.

Peter Dinklage for Commander Red and Michael Kenneth Williams for Adjutant Black.

[Son Geeko]

In fact, why the hell would anyone want a live-action DBZ anyways? Isn't part of its charm is that it is an extremely expressive cartoon?

For me, I'm not really sure why, I guess its because I just want to see something big and new to come out of the DBZ franchise, and not just video games and short newly-animated clips. Like what I said before, with the right amount of imagination and thought, a live-action DBZ movie can work.

[MarcFBR]

I think laugh tracks are used well when they're blended in with the sitcom and its style. For example, I love Friends, and I couldn't imagine it without the laugh track, because...it just wouldn't work. That's just its style.

And yeah, Two and a Half Men is shit.

Two and a Half Men and Friends don't use laugh tracks.

[SSJSteve]

I think laugh tracks are used well when they're blended in with the sitcom and its style. For example, I love Friends, and I couldn't imagine it without the laugh track, because...it just wouldn't work. That's just its style.

And yeah, Two and a Half Men is shit.

Two and a Half Men and Friends don't use laugh tracks.

A live audience then, which influences when people laugh at home. They're basically the same thing anyway, they both encourage the viewers at home to laugh. It's like "Oh, I can here laughing, I better laugh as well".

I think without the live audience in some shows people wouldn't be laughing. People should have to think for themselves, not someone else doing it for them. For example, The Office (UK/USA) they don't need the laughter added because they're genuinely funny.

[MarcFBR]

A live audience then, which influences when people laugh at home. They're basically the same thing anyway, they both encourage the viewers at home to laugh. It's like "Oh, I can here laughing, I better laugh as well".

I think without the live audience in some shows people wouldn't be laughing. People should have to think for themselves, not someone else doing it for them. For example, The Office (UK/USA) they don't need the laughter added because they're genuinely funny.

That argument could be made for shows (and even films) without a laugh track or audience, because they still often time lines to allow time for laughter, and people tend to naturally laugh during the downtime, otherwise they feel uncomfortable.


Out of three of the more popular sitcoms though: How I Met Your Mother, Two and a Half Men, and Big Bang Theory...

They tend to be easy targets for people because they are popular. It's the same argument plenty of anime fans made about DBZ and other anime series that are actually popular. It becomes to easy for to argue they aren't good, but it's what people want to watch. One show on that list I've never liked, one I used to like, and one I still watch. And one of them I've probably watched more than DBZ.


Although I do hate The Office.

Go watch Community, it's far better.

[SSJSteve]

Out of three of the more popular sitcoms though: How I Met Your Mother, Two and a Half Men, and Big Bang Theory...

They tend to be easy targets for people because they are popular. It's the same argument plenty of anime fans made about DBZ and other anime series that are actually popular. It becomes to easy for to argue they aren't good, but it's what people want to watch. One show on that list I've never liked, one I used to like, and one I still watch. And one of them I've probably watched more than DBZ.

Now see, the only show you mentioned there which is sometimes funny and is actually an intelligent comedy is the Big Bang Theory. The other shows in my opinion aren't funny. Maybe it's American v British humour (which is pointless arguing about).

I understand what you're trying to say though. I don't dislike those shows because they are popular, I dislike them because they're not funny. It would be interesting to see if those shows would of gained popularity without laughter tracks/live audiences though.

[MarcFBR]

Now see, the only show you mentioned there which is sometimes funny and is actually an intelligent comedy is the Big Bang Theory. The other shows in my opinion aren't funny. Maybe it's American v British humour (which is pointless arguing about).

I understand what you're trying to say though. I don't dislike those shows because they are popular, I dislike them because they're not funny. It would be interesting to see if those shows would of gained popularity without laughter tracks/live audiences though.

I love The Big Bang Theory, but it's generally tossed in with Two and a Half Men and How I Met Your Mother in the comedy dregs.

[kemuri07]

Now see, the only show you mentioned there which is sometimes funny and is actually an intelligent comedy is the Big Bang Theory. The other shows in my opinion aren't funny. Maybe it's American v British humour (which is pointless arguing about).

I understand what you're trying to say though. I don't dislike those shows because they are popular, I dislike them because they're not funny. It would be interesting to see if those shows would of gained popularity without laughter tracks/live audiences though.

I love The Big Bang Theory, but it's generally tossed in with Two and a Half Men and How I Met Your Mother in the comedy dregs.

Before we get told to get back on topic:

I'm one of the many who finds BBT generaly distasteful (those obnoxious TBS commercials make it worse) . Not necessarily because it's popular, but I have never laughed at a joke when my friends force me to watch an episode. A show like Community seems to understand the geek community (lol, get it?) far better than my time with BBT has shown me.

[NitroEX]

I think the first mistake they made with Dragonball Evolution is basing it on Dragonball. Nobody wanted to see that, they wanted to see Dragonball Z.

[Silver Sinspawn]

If another movie is made, Jack Black needs to play Yajirobe.

(Crappy choice, I know. But you have to admit it'd be cool.)

Jack Black needs to stop making movies and go back to making music.

[Corpsecreate]

If theres any remake of DBZ I would want to see it would be in the same sort of style that Rebuild of Evangelion is. Basically clean 1080p reanimated that still looks similar to the original drawings. Coupled with a proper english dub, it would be awesome! Of course some filler would need to be removed because 291 episodes in that quality would certainly not be cheap to produce

[Piccolo Daimao]

I think laugh tracks are used well when they're blended in with the sitcom and its style. For example, I love Friends, and I couldn't imagine it without the laugh track, because...it just wouldn't work. That's just its style.

And yeah, Two and a Half Men is shit.

Two and a Half Men and Friends don't use laugh tracks.

A live audience then, which influences when people laugh at home. They're basically the same thing anyway, they both encourage the viewers at home to laugh. It's like "Oh, I can here laughing, I better laugh as well".

I think without the live audience in some shows people wouldn't be laughing. People should have to think for themselves, not someone else doing it for them. For example, The Office (UK/USA) they don't need the laughter added because they're genuinely funny.

Yeah, that's what I mean. Although I disagree that comedies without live audience laughter is because they're genuinely funny, because there are many comedies with live audience laughter that are genuinely funny, such as Friends, a critically acclaimed classic which ran for 10 seasons. I laugh at Friends not because of the live audience, but because the gags are funny. Of course, that's just my opinion.

Out of three of the more popular sitcoms though: How I Met Your Mother, Two and a Half Men, and Big Bang Theory...

They tend to be easy targets for people because they are popular. It's the same argument plenty of anime fans made about DBZ and other anime series that are actually popular. It becomes to easy for to argue they aren't good, but it's what people want to watch. One show on that list I've never liked, one I used to like, and one I still watch. And one of them I've probably watched more than DBZ.

Now see, the only show you mentioned there which is sometimes funny and is actually an intelligent comedy is the Big Bang Theory. The other shows in my opinion aren't funny. Maybe it's American v British humour (which is pointless arguing about).

I understand what you're trying to say though. I don't dislike those shows because they are popular, I dislike them because they're not funny. It would be interesting to see if those shows would of gained popularity without laughter tracks/live audiences though.

I watched the original English The Office and loved it, but I've heard that the American The Office isn't well-reviewed. In fact, it seems to be a trend that America tends to bastardize sitcoms from the UK, as certain sitcoms work well in certain environments.

And How I Met Your Mother and The Big Bang Theory are shit too. The former I only watch when I'm really bored and mildly laugh at maybe a few gags; the latter I can't stand because of the insufferable characters. Not that How I Met Your Mother or Two and a Half Mother doesn't have insufferable characters either. Just that they're somewhat less insufferable than the Big Bang Theory characters.

But I think we're going too off-topic here now.