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by FNF » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:20 pm
I'm not sure if this has been brought up before but I noticed something...odd in the opening;
SSjin Ultimate Gohan FTW?
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by SylentEcho » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:23 pm
Haha yeah that's odd. I was going to say Future Gohan, but he's not even in the game.
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by FNF » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:26 pm
The funniest thing is it's not like he's there for only 1 second lol. He's there for a good few seconds. Everything else apart from the SSjin looks exactly like Ultimate Gohan.
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by Piccolo Daimao » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:51 pm
Also, is it just me or does the Freeza in that shot look somewhat like Metal Coola?
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by VegettoEX » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:53 pm
Piccolo Daimao wrote:Also, is it just me or does the Freeza in that shot look somewhat like Metal Coola?
Err... it
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by Piccolo Daimao » Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:59 pm
VegettoEX wrote:Piccolo Daimao wrote:Also, is it just me or does the Freeza in that shot look somewhat like Metal Coola?
Err... it
*is* Metal Coola

. He's playable in the game.
Oh yeah, for some reason, I misread both the title and screenshot as "Budokai 2".
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by Rocketman » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:00 pm
FNF wrote:The funniest thing is it's not like he's there for only 1 second lol. He's there for a good few seconds. Everything else apart from the SSjin looks exactly like Ultimate Gohan.
It may be worth noting that you can have SS1/2 Gohan while wearing the orange gi in B3.
Otherwise, I think it looks like a rush recolor, like they animated Mystic Gohan then at the last second decided to make him a Super Saiyan like everybody else.
Kinda like the "false SS" in that filler episode.
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by Savage68 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:18 pm
I never thought there was any error going on there. Black-haired Ultimate Gohan isn't hype; Super Saiyan Gohan is. The fact that he's wearing the orange gi makes it even cooler.
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by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:19 pm
Rocketman wrote:Otherwise, I think it looks like a rush recolor, like they animated Mystic Gohan then at the last second decided to make him a Super Saiyan like everybody else.
I think that is fairly evident, especially in the scene where we are staring at the back of his head and it is just a solid dark yellow. No different shades, not even like in the pictures above, and no detail lines in the spikes like all the other Super Saiyan's have in the rest of the video. Icky... they should have just left him Ultimate, or at least do a decent job at editing it if they just HAVE to change it.
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by Rukura » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:51 pm
It's almost like a prelude to that GT error
No matter how you look at it, it just looks wrong. They clearly painted (the inside of) Ultimate Gohan's hair yellow mid-way into doing this and called it a day lol
EDIT: Can someone photoshop his hair black and dark grey just to see it properly?

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by dragondyle » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:13 pm
Rukura wrote:
EDIT: Can someone photoshop his hair black and dark grey just to see it properly?

Yup! Here ya go: (sorry it's kinda rough but you get the idea.)

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by FNF » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:13 pm
Rukura wrote:It's almost like a prelude to that GT error
No matter how you look at it, it just looks wrong. They clearly painted (the inside of) Ultimate Gohan's hair yellow mid-way into doing this and called it a day lol
Exactly what I thought lol.
@Vegetto, ty for the better quality image. I might make it into an avatar

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by Metalwario64 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:15 pm
Rukura wrote:It's almost like a prelude to that GT error
No matter how you look at it, it just looks wrong. They clearly painted (the inside of) Ultimate Gohan's hair yellow mid-way into doing this and called it a day lol
EDIT: Can someone photoshop his hair black and dark grey just to see it properly?

Here's my attempt:
I'd like to have made his hair a little darker, but any darker and it looked out of place. I'm by no means a Photoshop expert, but I'm pretty satisfied with the result.
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by Rukura » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:20 pm
Thanks guys, it looks great!
Metalwario64 wrote:I'd like to have made his hair a little darker, but any darker and it looked out of place. I'm by no means a Photoshop expert, but I'm pretty satisfied with the result.
Nah, from the tones of yellow they used, that's clearly how it was supposed to be. And it looks awesome!
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by Saiga » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:34 pm
I guess maybe they decided SS Gohan would be a closer match to cooler than U. Gohan? That's the only reason I can think to change it.
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by AgitoZ » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:46 pm
Saiga wrote:I guess maybe they decided SS Gohan would be a closer match to cooler than U. Gohan? That's the only reason I can think to change it.
If that were true Gogeta wouldn't have been getting his ass handed by Broli. I doubt Toei thought that much about it.
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by Haji » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:12 pm
I remember seeing the lack of detail in Gohan's hair on the first or 2nd time playing the game, I just thought they got a little cheap on that part.
And Broli is way more powerful that what most people think. In both movies he was taken down in cheap ways. Like movie 10. The way Toei set Broli up made him unbeatable, But it was a movie.
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by Fox666 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:43 pm
Like in all movies, the villain is almighty powerfull, however is soon defeated in an unconvincing way. Also in Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans it is mentioned that Hatchiyack is stronger than Broli. So it appears that Broli strength is more of a momentary movie villain.
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by dbgtFO » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:50 pm
Yeah, I always thought Gohan's hair looked wrong in that opening. Like it has been suggested, I too think, it was a rush recolor job akin to Super Saiyan Goku/Regular state Goku vs. the Ginyu Force. So it's not an error, but a conscious last minute change.
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by Sun-Wukong » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:53 pm
That's neat; in regards to earlier comments, how is it a prelude to anything in GT when GT came first?
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