FUNimation's Dragon Boxes have indeed been discontinued

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Re: FUNimation's Dragon Boxes have indeed been discontinued

Post by Daimakku » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:16 pm

PhoenixEX wrote:I was thinking of buying the Dragon Box, but people say the new BluRay level sets are much better, so i may end up buying those instead.
Makes me wonder if a BluRay Dragon Box is possible.
Just be aware that you will be paying MUCH more for the Level Sets than the Dragonboxes in the long run.. One set is about ~$20 for 17 episodes, while a Dragonbox ranges from ~$30-$50 give or take, but are around ~39-40 episodes each box.. you get way better bang for your buck with the Dboxes. Plus it has the Dragonbooks, which while unnecessary, it adds a nice addition to the collection.

The Levels are not going to end anytime soon.. I predict the whole series will be released in the Levels sets until 2013, at the soonest.. if you're willing to wait that long to watch the whole series, then go for it.

One thing that is gonna hurt new potential Dragonbox collectors is Dbox 2 being so rare now.. that is putting a hamper in collectors that want the whole series. I don't know why FUNimation is doing this.

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Post by Pokewhiz7 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:24 pm

At the same time, boxes 1, 2, and 4 are becoming very hard to find, so unless you really look around, the level sets will still probably be cheaper.

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Re: FUNimation's Dragon Boxes have indeed been discontinued

Post by Daimakku » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:31 pm

Pokewhiz7 wrote:At the same time, boxes 1, 2, and 4 are becoming very hard to find, so unless you really look around, the level sets will still probably be cheaper.
Well, nowadays that is probably true, too..

I just find 17 episodes per set for ~$20 each to be kind of expensive.. just imagine how much they'll be in total by the end of the last set, for those that like to wait until the series end to start collecting. :shock: That's gonna be a pretty penny..
Plus I wouldn't trust FUNimation enough to start collecting early after they cancelled the Ultimate Uncuts.. what if this happens with the Level sets too?

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Re: FUNimation's Dragon Boxes have indeed been discontinued

Post by Craddle » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:34 pm

Pokewhiz7 wrote:At the same time, boxes 1, 2, and 4 are becoming very hard to find, so unless you really look around, the level sets will still probably be cheaper.
Agreed. #3 will be close behind them soon. It's already been going in and out of stock on Amazon. After the holidays and everyone cashes in all their gift cards, 1-4 will be even harder to find. I kinda like the idea of FUNi doing this. Probably because I already completed my collection and it increases the value and rareness of my own DBoxes that much more. I do feel bad fans that didn't get to obtain these. Well, the ones that didn't know they were limited. If they knew the DBoxes were limited and waited around all this time, I don't really feel that bad for them.

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Post by Daimakku » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:44 pm

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Pokewhiz7 wrote:At the same time, boxes 1, 2, and 4 are becoming very hard to find, so unless you really look around, the level sets will still probably be cheaper.
Agreed. #3 will be close behind them soon. It's already been going in and out of stock on Amazon. After the holidays and everyone cashes in all their gift cards, 1-4 will be even harder to find. I kinda like the idea of FUNi doing this. Probably because I already completed my collection and it increases the value and rareness of my own DBoxes that much more. I do feel bad fans that didn't get to obtain these. Well, the ones that didn't know they were limited. If they knew the DBoxes were limited and waited around all this time, I don't really feel that bad for them.
I don't have a problem with the Dragonboxes being rare; I also kind of like the idea of owning something that is now rare. What I do have a problem with is how some boxes are rarer than others.. By far, volume 2 is the rarest of them all. So rare that many late collectors have all of the boxes except that one.. that is just shitty. If they had made all of them be around the same level of rareness then that would have been fine with me. Nobody wants a hole in their collection.

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Re: FUNimation's Dragon Boxes have indeed been discontinued

Post by Craddle » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:58 pm

Daimakku wrote: I don't have a problem with the Dragonboxes being rare; I also kind of like the idea of owning something that is now rare. What I do have a problem with is how some boxes are rarer than others.. By far, volume 2 is the rarest of them all. So rare that many late collectors have all of the boxes except that one.. that is just shitty. If they had made all of them be around the same level of rareness then that would have been fine with me. Nobody wants a hole in their collection.
#2 actually ran out VERY quick and very early. FUNi even produced a 2nd print of #2 to keep up with the demand. I don't think the 2nd print lasted very long at all though. My only explanation is that since Vegeta is the most popular character in the states, his box sold out the quickest.

Mind you, there's no confirmation that there was ever a 2nd print per say, they could have just had a lot of access stock at their warehouse they were holding out on.

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FUNimation wrote:Josh, Thank you for your email and interest in FUNimation. Dragon Boxes are limited releases, and production did cease at a certain point. However, fairly soon, more inventory will become available so major retailers will receive more stock. My advice is to keep checking Amazon or RightStuf on a regular basis."

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Post by dballfan » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:08 am

Perfect wrote:I find the comparisons to be 100% completely subjective color-wise. In fact, the BRs look way too dark in my opinion (It just looks worse with the brightness turned up). Plus while some people bitch about the pinkness on the DBs, the BRs have a yellowness about them (Raditz), that's less than "natural".
That 'yellow' skin tone on Raditz from what I can see is more accurate to the original broadcast.
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The left is the original and as you can see his skin tone is pretty much like Raditz's.
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Pokewhiz7 wrote:At the same time, boxes 1, 2, and 4 are becoming very hard to find, so unless you really look around, the level sets will still probably be cheaper.
Well, nowadays that is probably true, too..

I just find 17 episodes per set for ~$20 each to be kind of expensive.. just imagine how much they'll be in total by the end of the last set, for those that like to wait until the series end to start collecting. :shock: That's gonna be a pretty penny..
Plus I wouldn't trust FUNimation enough to start collecting early after they cancelled the Ultimate Uncuts.. what if this happens with the Level sets too?
They are not really that expensive - I still remember the Videos and original DVD's, they were like $20 for 5 episodes. That makes these look a bargain and a half. Not to mention these are Blu-ray's so your also buying a more durable disc. And as someone mentioned it will be very difficult to find the complete Dragon boxes for a cheaper price that the complete level sets.

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Post by Perfect » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:10 am

I was speaking in the context of what I'd view as looking more natural. That in itself is really based on perspective, at least in this case (Unless you're color blind and confuse red and blue). Though I suppose some would say a peachy pastel color isn't as "natural" as a white-yellow, but again, that's preference.
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Post by Craddle » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:13 am

dballfan wrote:They are not really that expensive - I still remember the Videos and original DVD's, they were like $20 for 5 episodes. That makes these look a bargain and a half. Not to mention these are Blu-ray's so your also buying a more durable disc. And as someone mentioned it will be very difficult to find the complete Dragon boxes for a cheaper price that the complete level sets.
Yeah, I've tried that route plenty of times. Most fans now a days just don't get it. They never had to pay $25 for 3 episodes on VHS. At that price, even the $200 DBox vol.2 looks like a steal.

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Post by dballfan » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:27 am

Perfect wrote:I was speaking in the context of what I'd view as looking more natural. That in itself is really based on perspective, at least in this case (Unless you're color blind and confuse red and blue).
I suppose so, but the dislike of the pink tone isn't just because it isn't natural (although some people may say that), its more due to the inaccuracy in comparison to the original IMO. As you said naturalness is based on perspective, but I can't see how one would consider a pink overtone on Raditz a more natural coloring than the 'yellow' skin which is present on him in the Level sets and in the original broadcast.

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Perfect wrote:I was speaking in the context of what I'd view as looking more natural. That in itself is really based on perspective, at least in this case (Unless you're color blind and confuse red and blue).
I suppose so, but the dislike of the pink tone isn't just because it isn't natural (although some people may say that), its more due to the inaccuracy in comparison to the original IMO. As you said naturalness is based on perspective, but I can't see how one would consider a pink overtone on Raditz a more natural coloring than the 'yellow' skin which is present on him in the Level sets and in the original broadcast.
I find the pinkish complexion a better fit because of the pale pastel it shines off, whereas the yellow tone seems to be rather brash from what I can see. If you look at Kai, the yellow-type skin tones have a more pastel feel to them.
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Re: FUNimation's Dragon Boxes have indeed been discontinued

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:41 pm

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Pokewhiz7 wrote:At the same time, boxes 1, 2, and 4 are becoming very hard to find, so unless you really look around, the level sets will still probably be cheaper.
Well, nowadays that is probably true, too..

I just find 17 episodes per set for ~$20 each to be kind of expensive.. just imagine how much they'll be in total by the end of the last set, for those that like to wait until the series end to start collecting. :shock: That's gonna be a pretty penny..
Plus I wouldn't trust FUNimation enough to start collecting early after they cancelled the Ultimate Uncuts.. what if this happens with the Level sets too?
They won't. The reason they cancelled the UUSEs was because they were going to release the orange bricks, most likely. Even so, I think there's a higher chance they'll get cancelled if everyone waits. Then again, I'm waiting for the complete level sets, so I can't really talk.

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Daimakku wrote: I don't have a problem with the Dragonboxes being rare; I also kind of like the idea of owning something that is now rare. What I do have a problem with is how some boxes are rarer than others.. By far, volume 2 is the rarest of them all. So rare that many late collectors have all of the boxes except that one.. that is just shitty. If they had made all of them be around the same level of rareness then that would have been fine with me. Nobody wants a hole in their collection.
#2 actually ran out VERY quick and very early. FUNi even produced a 2nd print of #2 to keep up with the demand. I don't think the 2nd print lasted very long at all though. My only explanation is that since Vegeta is the most popular character in the states, his box sold out the quickest.

Mind you, there's no confirmation that there was ever a 2nd print per say, they could have just had a lot of access stock at their warehouse they were holding out on.

Email response to Kendamu:
FUNimation wrote:Josh, Thank you for your email and interest in FUNimation. Dragon Boxes are limited releases, and production did cease at a certain point. However, fairly soon, more inventory will become available so major retailers will receive more stock. My advice is to keep checking Amazon or RightStuf on a regular basis."
Craddle, any idea when this gentlemen received that response?

Anime Pavilion have one Dragon Box Vol. 2 set in stock, albeit the box is slightly damaged yet the contents are supposedly still intact.


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Post by thedarkuniter » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:29 am

Since you guys keep mentioning how accurate the colors are for the Level sets, why not say the colors are accurate in the orange bricks as well? Granted, most of us hate the orange bricks, but the Level sets have the same master from the orange bricks, just only with different restoration processes.
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thedarkuniter wrote:Since you guys keep mentioning how accurate the colors are for the Level sets, why not say the colors are accurate in the orange bricks as well? Granted, most of us hate the orange bricks, but the Level sets have the same master from the orange bricks, just only with different restoration processes.
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thedarkuniter wrote:Since you guys keep mentioning how accurate the colors are for the Level sets, why not say the colors are accurate in the orange bricks as well? Granted, most of us hate the orange bricks, but the Level sets have the same master from the orange bricks, just only with different restoration processes.
Don't be condescending, the fact is that the colors were heavily altered for the orange bricks. Were they altered for the BD's, sure, I guess. I don't know, won't argue if I don't know. But if they were, were they drastically altered in the same sense as the orange bricks, no.

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Post by Android 50 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:04 am

Yay, I've got a DBOX that's considered rare.

But not as rare as Vol 2. :?
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thedarkuniter wrote:Since you guys keep mentioning how accurate the colors are for the Level sets, why not say the colors are accurate in the orange bricks as well? Granted, most of us hate the orange bricks, but the Level sets have the same master from the orange bricks, just only with different restoration processes.
Just because they use the same master, doesn't mean they have the same result. The restoration process is the key factor in the presentation of the final product. Take a look at some of the comparisons between the 2 before you start pointing out that the Orange Brick colors are "accurate."

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Craddle wrote:
thedarkuniter wrote:Since you guys keep mentioning how accurate the colors are for the Level sets, why not say the colors are accurate in the orange bricks as well? Granted, most of us hate the orange bricks, but the Level sets have the same master from the orange bricks, just only with different restoration processes.
Just because they use the same master, doesn't mean they have the same result. The restoration process is the key factor in the presentation of the final product. Take a look at some of the comparisons between the 2 before you start pointing out that the Orange Brick colors are "accurate."
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