Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[TonyTheTiger]

"He touched the main core."

[funrush]

That's actually really gory the first time you look. But yeah, I'm glad this is over, hope the next fight isn't so obvious who the winner is. Isn't it Daimao and Beezelbub? Or was it Tapion?

[Gyt Kaliba]

"He touched the main core."

Cell Jr.: I NEED AN ADULT!
Gast: I am an adult.
Cell Jr.:



For some reason it never occurred to me either that the Cell Jr.'s possibly can't regenerate. Since Gast had to hit the main core to kill it though, I'm thinking they probably can, at least via this fanon. I assume Gohan just destroyed them so utterly too.

This page totally trolled us too, announcing the next match without really announcing it. Bah!

[TRL]

Cell juniors lend themselves pretty well to gore violence apparently.

If you think about it cell juniors have to be inferior. I don't see them having the cloning ability too. Plus they are smaller in size and have smaller "hats", there genetic constituency is already different. There are bound to be other differences as well. Intelligence for one.

[verto]

Is it just me or would that Cell Jr. make a good avatar?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I don't see them having the cloning ability too..

It's pretty much confirmed they can't create Cell IIIs lol, they don't have the tail/stinger/thingy...unless it's obtained after puberty. =P

[TRL]

I don't see them having the cloning ability too..

It's pretty much confirmed they can't create Cell IIIs lol, they don't have the tail/stinger/thingy...unless it's obtained after puberty. =P

Hey thar TDC! :3

Yeah let's just hope don't. I consider them to be eternal midgets anyway though. No puberty for you junior!

[rereboy]

He didn't contradict himself, I don't understand how hard it is to understand this simple concept; especially seeing that it's been explained numerous times here on Daizex.

Guys: Most likely the nucleus just regenerates in order of priority. From this, we get no plothole with it being in the brain after everything but the nucleus was destroyed; it just chose to regenerate the brain first since it had to regenerate everything anyway.

In other words, if the nucleus was in his knee and the upper half of the body gets destroyed, it's not going to regenerate a completely new body or even start with making a new knee, as nothing below the waist needs to be regenerated. It's also not going to start with a new brain, heart or shoulder; it will regenerate from what's missing at the waist and work its way up. After he self-destructed, what's missing is literally everything but the nucleus itself, so it just started with the brain, be it randomly chosen or intentional.

Thus, pre-self-destruct, it was in the lower half of the body, whereas post-self-destruct it was in his brain, like he said it was. No plothole occured, here, it just didn't choose the cells that surrounded it pre-self-destruct as the first ones to regenerate.

That theory doesn't make much sense. Why exactly would a process like regeneration change the position of an organ instead of making Cell just like he was, organ wise?

And how would Cell be aware of its new location?

Its just reaching. Toriyama simply messed up bad.

[Perfect]

Because it regenerated in order of priority. Would you just expect Cell's nucleus to start with his knee? No, of course not; his head is the most plausible location (Or rather head inside his midsection). That's why the location changed it's simple, he never stated it was indigenous to a certain location. How would Cell know he had a nucleus at all? He obviously had to know something about his design or he'd fail to realize he had one to begin with, unless of course he discovered it during the process of coming back from near death after Goku sacrificed himself. In fact, if you look at the panels, it starts with his midsection and his head pops out of that. It's not even close to reaching, it's entirely plausible and likely.

In fact Cell says this,

(Taken from Herms' Strength Checker) "There’s a small clump inside my head…This makes up my nucleus…As long as that clump isn’t destroyed, my body can continue regenerating"

He's incredibly vague about, like he barley knows anything about, leaving a lot of leeway for interpretation. If you look at the panels in the manga, the head literally pops out from the midsection, which could mean the nucleus moved during that process right there (Given the nucleus was his body and head at time). Plus if you look at the damage he received from Goku, it's also more or less the same amount of his torso that survived as what regenerated in his self-destruct sequence.

[rereboy]

That is so much reaching that I don't even know what to tell you . But sure... There are lots of theories which can possibly explain what happened. None will fit perfectly though.

[Perfect]

That is so much reaching that I don't even know what to tell you . But sure... There are lots of theories which can possibly explain what happened. None will fit perfectly though.

Perfect Cell can't have a perfect theory to explain his imperfection. Paradox.

[Titan]

That is so much reaching that I don't even know what to tell you . But sure... There are lots of theories which can possibly explain what happened. None will fit perfectly though.

Totally agree with you!I see nothing vague about this sentence "There’s a small clump inside my head…This makes up my nucleus…As long as that clump isn’t destroyed, my body can continue regenerating"

Plus:

Daizenshuu 7:
Regeneration
As long as their head is intact, they can return to normal.
Namekians can regenerate their body structure, though this consumes a considerable amount strength. According to one theory, it seems that as long as their head remains they can regenerate all of their bodies' structure, returning a hand or leg to normal. There are also examples of them cutting off arms injured in battle, then regenerating them.

And considering Cell inherited his regeneration ability from the Nameks, i see no reason to use fan made theories.

[Perfect]

It's vague in the sense that it never says it's indigenous to his head, like I said prior. He merely says it's in his head, contradicting nothing of what I said, making it vague in that retrospective.

You do realize that his nucleus is his "Namekian head" right? Therefore the relevance towards this an that is really just out of context completely. In other words you just tried to convince me that Cell's nucleus is in his head because his nucleus is his head because Cell inherited the regeneration ability, version 1.0, from another race that had an inferior way of doing so, that isn't relevant towards his design. If anything that's, reaching.

[Titan]

It's vague in the sense that it never says it's indigenous to his head, like I said prior. He merely says it's in his head, contradicting nothing of what I said, making it vague in that retrospective.

You do realize that his nucleus is his "Namekian head" right? Therefore the relevance towards this an that is really just out of context completely. In other words you just tried to convince me that Cell's nucleus is in his head because his nucleus is his head because Cell inherited the regeneration ability, version 1.0, from another race that had an inferior way of doing so that isn't relevant towards his design. If anything that's, reaching.

I didn't try to convince you of anything.The sentence is clear as water.
You are free to believe in everything you want.

[Perfect]

It's vague in the sense that it never says it's indigenous to his head, like I said prior. He merely says it's in his head, contradicting nothing of what I said, making it vague in that retrospective.

You do realize that his nucleus is his "Namekian head" right? Therefore the relevance towards this an that is really just out of context completely. In other words you just tried to convince me that Cell's nucleus is in his head because his nucleus is his head because Cell inherited the regeneration ability, version 1.0, from another race that had an inferior way of doing so that isn't relevant towards his design. If anything that's, reaching.

I didn't try to convince you of anything.The sentence is clear as water.
You are free to believe in everything you want.

Then the entirety of the post was trivial seeing that it was wrong in both attributes relating to my posts; serving no real purpose other than stating something that's incorrect (Not to mention a plot hole is just as much of a theory as anything else, regardless of what you consider reaching).

Anyhow, back on topic. The Cell Juniors seem to have a nucleus based on the poor English translation, I assume either Cell passed more traits down or the canon just follows it ever since the Cell Games.

[Titan]

It's vague in the sense that it never says it's indigenous to his head, like I said prior. He merely says it's in his head, contradicting nothing of what I said, making it vague in that retrospective.

You do realize that his nucleus is his "Namekian head" right? Therefore the relevance towards this an that is really just out of context completely. In other words you just tried to convince me that Cell's nucleus is in his head because his nucleus is his head because Cell inherited the regeneration ability, version 1.0, from another race that had an inferior way of doing so that isn't relevant towards his design. If anything that's, reaching.

I didn't try to convince you of anything.The sentence is clear as water.
You are free to believe in everything you want.

Then the entirety of the post was trivial.

Just stating what i think .If you think that such an obvious statement is incredibly vague i see no reason to argue anymore.And an obvious contradiction isn't a theory.

[Perfect]

I said he was being incredibly vague in the sense of where it originated from, being he only states the location of where it is currently. There's a difference, regardless of whether or not you're being satirical. I explained how it was vague in the relating context, that's done. It's only a contradiction by perspective, unless it's outwardly blunt with no evidence towards a theory against the contradiction in perspective. An example of a blunt contradiction would be Goku walks out of his house with an orange shirt, the camera pans to his left while he's walking and it changes to blue then back to orange as an error in artwork occurs during the animation sequence. However in this case, there's tons of evidence to go against whether or not this would be considered a plot hole, therefore making the contradiction in perspective, a theory. A theory is an idea or system of ideas that try to explain something, or rather a proposed explanation towards something that while has evidence, isn't viable for sure.

I wonder what the proposed logic in DBM is for this controversy, though I doubt it'll ever come up in the comic. It seemed rather well established in the series that the Cell Juniors couldn't regenerate, so I wonder what the purpose for stating they could in the recent page was, aside from "Oh guess what, they can regenerate". Maybe something along the lines of the usage of it later?

[Titan]

I said he was being incredibly vague in the sense of where it originated from, being he only states the location of where it is currently.

That's the problem,i see no reason or evidence to think that he only states the location of where it is currently.
I think your theory is absurd.
He clearly says that the clump is inside his head and that clump makes up his nucleus,therefore, in my opinion there is no room for interpretation or he would say "...there is a clump inside my body..." and you would have a case.

However,maybe, you should open a thread and see how many guys agree with you.

[Perfect]

I don't know where you're getting that there's no room for interpretation, since as I stated on numerous posts, he doesn't state that his nucleus is indigenous to his head. He merely states there's a clump of nerves there currently as he's speaking that make up his nucleus. Also note, he doesn't say whether or not his head is destroyed, he specifically refers to his nucleus, meaning he could lose his head and survive. However, I think this arguments gone on far enough and does deserves its own thread and I'll type one up in a bit.

[Titan]

I don't know where you're getting that there's no room for interpretation, since as I stated on numerous posts, he doesn't state that his nucleus is indigenous to his head. He merely states there's a clump of nerves there currently as he's speaking that make up his nucleus. Also note, he doesn't say whether or not his head is destroyed, he specifically refers to his nucleus, meaning he could lose his head and survive. However, I think this arguments gone on far enough and does deserves its own thread and I'll type one up in a bit.

Yes,he refers to his nucleus inside his head not his body.He can't be more obvious than that.

there's a clump of nerves there currently as he's speaking

This sentence is your interpretation.It is not there and it makes all the difference.

Also note, he doesn't say whether or not his head is destroyed, he specifically refers to his nucleus, meaning he could lose his head and survive.

I think he doesn't need to do it,because, he points to his head.

I think this arguments gone on far enough and does deserves its own thread and I'll type one up in a bit.

I agree.