Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
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Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Who wins this battle of compsers? Saban's own Shuki Levy? Or the Techo/Rock master Bruce Faulconer? By the way メリークリスマスみんな!
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Why is the Katakana/Hiragana not viewable btw?UnbiasedDBZfan wrote:Who wins this battle of compsers? Saban's own Shuki Levy? Or the Techo/Rock master Bruce Faulconer? By the way メリークリスマスみんな!
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Probably because you don't have the necessary fonts installed. I can see it.UnbiasedDBZfan wrote:Why is the Katakana/Hiragana not viewable btw?UnbiasedDBZfan wrote:Who wins this battle of compsers? Saban's own Shuki Levy? Or the Techo/Rock master Bruce Faulconer? By the way メリークリスマスみんな!
Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
You do realise that Faulconer was not the only person responsible for the Funimation Soundtrack for DBZ right?
Scott Morgan, Julius Dobos and Mike Smith all helped out to make that soundtrack.
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Most of Shuki Levy's music is just sort of... there. As much as I hate to, I have to give it to Faulconer.
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Definitely Shuki Levy for me. His score actually more of an organic feel to it and knew when to get dark, light-hearted etc, whereas Faulconer Productions just feels like generic electronic/rock/synth rhythms being played non-stop to me (I'll probably get flamed for saying this but it's just what I think).
Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
I'm not too fond of Shuki Levy's music, kinda just sounded like background noise that wouldn't stop and got really annoying at times, it also sound like the same 7 tracks played over and over again. Faulconer Productions was great, had 4 guys with different styles making music for the show, because of the different styles, the music never got old or boring, every character had a unique theme and there has been moments when their music outclassed Kikuchi's score.
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
This is a hard one because Shuki Levis music seemed pretty bland but nothing seemed to be out of place. His music didn't ad much but it didn't take away from anything either. Team Faulconer on the other hand had fantastic composers but a lot of the tracks didn't really fit with the moment. Though a few did fit better IMO (best example is Paikuhans theme playing when he beats Cell Freeza and King Cold).
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Shuki Levy's score never shut up either. None of the English composers' score ever shut up.BluezaBladeNZ wrote:Definitely Shuki Levy for me. His score actually more of an organic feel to it and knew when to get dark, light-hearted etc, whereas Faulconer Productions just feels like generic electronic/rock/synth rhythms being played non-stop to me (I'll probably get flamed for saying this but it's just what I think).
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Mark Menza's had a fair bit of silence, particularly in DBZ Movie 6.UnbiasedDBZfan wrote:Shuki Levy's score never shut up either. None of the English composers' score ever shut up.BluezaBladeNZ wrote:Definitely Shuki Levy for me. His score actually more of an organic feel to it and knew when to get dark, light-hearted etc, whereas Faulconer Productions just feels like generic electronic/rock/synth rhythms being played non-stop to me (I'll probably get flamed for saying this but it's just what I think).
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Okay then barring one neither of them shut up and the one that does shut up doesn't shut up in his main series of composition(I.E Dragon Ball GT)DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:Mark Menza's had a fair bit of silence, particularly in DBZ Movie 6.UnbiasedDBZfan wrote:Shuki Levy's score never shut up either. None of the English composers' score ever shut up.BluezaBladeNZ wrote:Definitely Shuki Levy for me. His score actually more of an organic feel to it and knew when to get dark, light-hearted etc, whereas Faulconer Productions just feels like generic electronic/rock/synth rhythms being played non-stop to me (I'll probably get flamed for saying this but it's just what I think).
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
There IS silence in all of the English scores. They're just rare to appear at times.
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Stopping then starting a new song does not constitute for silence. ProofGonstead wrote:There IS silence in all of the English scores. They're just rare to appear at times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz2iib7NFLE
This actually has silence, then the music starts to play. Levy's score was music then it stopped then immediately it started again which is not silence since a new track was starting in the first place.
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
That's not what I'm talking about.
It's stuff like this I'm talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d7zILDjLF0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXgNib19m8
It's stuff like this I'm talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d7zILDjLF0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXgNib19m8
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MY HOLY GRAIL (110% Serious. Please sell me one)Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Yeah, I'll defend the Saban dub on a lot of fronts but the music really had this stock quality to it. I can pick out themes but very rarely did it add anything to the scenes. That being said I'd argue it was at least unintrusive, I've never thought "This could not be more grating." when listening to it and I can't really say the same for the BFP score. A lot of that has to do with the non-stop Mickey Mousing on BFP's score which I can only take in small doses before it seems like the music is stepping on the footage's toes. So the BFP score stood out a lot more to me but that was kind of a double edged sword because I feel like under scrutiny it doesn't stand up very well. The Levy stuff is easy to ridicule but you'd almost be going out of your way to do so, it's the musical equivalent of a fan droning on in the background.
Shit, that paragraph is overly negative! I don't mean to be super blunt or offensive. Different strokes.
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Whoa, well that shut me up!Gonstead wrote:That's not what I'm talking about.
It's stuff like this I'm talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d7zILDjLF0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXgNib19m8
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
To be fair, in the first video it seems it was for humorus reason.Gonstead wrote:That's not what I'm talking about.
It's stuff like this I'm talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d7zILDjLF0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXgNib19m8
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Still counts as silence.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:To be fair, in the first video it seems it was for humorus reason.Gonstead wrote:That's not what I'm talking about.
It's stuff like this I'm talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d7zILDjLF0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXgNib19m8
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Yup, that's because it was Funi's call, not ours. The places people(including myself) are pointing out are exceptions to the rule.UnbiasedDBZfan wrote:Shuki Levy's score never shut up either. None of the English composers' score ever shut up.BluezaBladeNZ wrote:Definitely Shuki Levy for me. His score actually more of an organic feel to it and knew when to get dark, light-hearted etc, whereas Faulconer Productions just feels like generic electronic/rock/synth rhythms being played non-stop to me (I'll probably get flamed for saying this but it's just what I think).
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Re: Christmas Special: BF vs Shuki Levy
Certainly musical silence, which I know is your point, but, damn. What really catches me is that they felt the need to keep it from being silent by having the characters constantly talk and bridge the gap until the music started up again. They could just never have silence.Gonstead wrote:Still counts as silence.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:To be fair, in the first video it seems it was for humorus reason.Gonstead wrote:That's not what I'm talking about.
It's stuff like this I'm talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d7zILDjLF0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXgNib19m8
Oh, and as for the thread title, wasn't it revealed recently that it was actually Ron Wasserman, not Shuki Levy, who did the music for the first two seasons?
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