The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Rocketman]

nnnggh....arggg...fuck...*bleeds from eyes, nose and ears*

[In Brightest Day]

Super Perfect Cell vs. Super Saiyan Goku at the 28th Budokai.

[Silver Sinspawn]

Arale vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

@Silkman3003 OK then, I guess you are right. It's just that in my mind it was Movie 13 Goku = Boo arc Goku. So, Goku wins Evil Boo, but gets beaten by the rest.

Arale vs Introduction Chaozu.

Arale completely destroys poor Chaozu, even if Chaozu was GT Chaozu.

Future Gohan vs Android Saga Piccolo(Pre Kami fusion).

I guess Gohan wins. Piccolo was near SSJ level back then, but still not a match for them.

Super Perfect Cell vs. Super Saiyan Goku at the 28th Budokai.

Cell gets beaten and badly. For base Goku being able to fight with raged Oob, base Goku must be at least between Boo arc Goku SSJ2 and SSJ3.

Arale vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta?

Hmmm... I guess Gogeta, since he has ki attacks. Arale only has her mouth beam, while Goheta has Super Kamehameha, Final Flash, Garlick-Ho, Big Bang Attack and Big Bang Kamehameha. Arale to be able to destroy the moon by just throwing a rock, cut Earth in half with a simple punch and by hitting a planet moving him, I guess Arale is in a whole different level than Dragon Ball characters.

[CatouttaHell]

ssj3 is obviously a much bigger multiplier than you think as ssj3 goku was keeping up with Kid Boo who was stated to be toying with said buffoon Saiyan.

It was never stated Pure Boo toyed with him. Him being forced to use his candy beam actually suggests he was at a disadvantage IMO.

The only thing that could suggest that he was playing around was him mocking him after he regenerated from his Kamehameha, but that's most likely him mocking him due to the rapidly increasing gap in stamina between them, etc IMO.

Oh yeah, that's right. I just always think that Kid Buu was the most powerful.

He is in the Anime due to a handful of convoluted, contradictory filler statements and feats that hax him and Son Goku up. In the manga it goes Gohan-Boo > Gotenks-Boo > Piccolo-Boo > Evil Boo > Pure Boo

Son wanted no parts of Evil Boo and wanted to either revert him to Good Boo or fuse back into Vegetto. He was also begging Gotenks-Boo to give him time to fuse with Gohan, and begging Vegeta to fuse with him against Gohan-Boo.

Super Perfect Cell vs. Super Saiyan Goku at the 28th Budokai.

Base Goku finger-flicks him IMO. SSjin is major overkill.

Son Goku states Oob could win the Tenkaichi Budoukai despite knowing that Good Boo would be there, and Piccolo stated that Son vs. Oob would be the most notable fight this time around.

Personally I think that since nobody contradicted their expectations and Son even said Oob was as powerful as he thought that means Oob was indeed as powerful as Pure Boo and Base Goku is at least in that general rage IMO.

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

ssj3 is obviously a much bigger multiplier than you think as ssj3 goku was keeping up with Kid Boo who was stated to be toying with said buffoon Saiyan.

It was never stated Pure Boo toyed with him. Him being forced to use his candy beam actually suggests he was at a disadvantage IMO.

The only thing that could suggest that he was playing around was him mocking him after he regenerated from his Kamehameha, but that's most likely him mocking him due to the rapidly increasing gap in stamina between them, etc IMO.

Oh yeah, that's right. I just always think that Kid Buu was the most powerful.

He is in the Anime due to a handful of convoluted, contradictory filler statements and feats that hax him and Son Goku up. In the manga it goes Gohan-Boo > Gotenks-Boo > Piccolo-Boo > Evil Boo > Pure Boo

Son wanted no parts of Evil Boo and wanted to either revert him to Good Boo or fuse back into Vegetto. He was also begging Gotenks-Boo to give him time to fuse with Gohan, and begging Vegeta to fuse with him against Gohan-Boo.

Super Perfect Cell vs. Super Saiyan Goku at the 28th Budokai.

Base Goku finger-flicks him IMO. SSjin is major overkill.

Son Goku states Oob could win the Tenkaichi Budoukai despite knowing that Good Boo would be there, and Piccolo stated that Son vs. Oob would be the most notable fight this time around.

Personally I think that since nobody contradicted their expectations and Son even said Oob was as powerful as he thought that means Oob was indeed as powerful as Pure Boo and Base Goku is at least in that general rage IMO.

I know that Oob is mad strong when provoked but I don't think Oob is at full Kid/Chibi Boo power until GT. I think Goku trained super hard in the 10 years and maybe doubled or maybe tripled his power level.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Super Perfect Cell vs. Super Saiyan Goku at the 28th Budokai.

Super Perfect Cell is SSj2-tier, meaning that he'd wreck Super Saiyan Goku.

[perucho1990]

I heard she is right there with Bugs Bunny,Mickey Mouse, Popeye and Droopy as God-Tier Toonforcer.

Not even close.


She's on a whole different level.

Popeye punched out God.

Droopy NEVER lost canonically.

[lash]

Arale vs Introduction Chaozu.

Future Gohan vs Android Saga Piccolo(Pre Kami fusion).

He'd just barely win.

Super Perfect Cell vs. Super Saiyan Goku at the 28th Budokai.

Cell is trash by this point.

Arale vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta

Dr Slump Arale isn't even getting past saiyan arc Vegeta let alone Gogeta, Lol.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Future Gohan vs Android Saga Piccolo(Pre Kami fusion).

At that point in time, I have Piccolo between 100% Freeza and Super Saiyan Goku at his first appearance. I don't exactly know where I'd place Super Saiyan Future Gohan, but I believe that, regardless, he'd still be considerably stronger than him and, therefore, defeat him with little trouble.

[Fox666]

Considering no.17 could defeat Gohan with only half of his power the last time they fought, Gohan looks incredible incompetent. So I will give this to Piccolo.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Considering no.17 could defeat Gohan with only half of his power the last time they fought, Gohan looks incredible incompetent.

I...I don't know how you came to that conclusion. Considering #17's immense strength, and the fact that Gohan would've been considerably weaker than before when he fought #17 a year before, his power (which we aren't given much information on other than "weaker than #17" and possibly "weaker than SSj Trunks when he defeats Freeza") seems perfectly understandable. If anything, the fact that he's managed to survive for 13 years or so against opponents much stronger than him who killed all his friends is anything but incompetent.

[CatouttaHell]

Piccolo roflstomps Gohan IMO.

I personally don't see Future Gohan being as powerful as Initial Trunks, while Piccolo easily tooled #20 (Post) and implied #19 and #20 (Pre) were the same guys who SSjin Trunks was terrified of.

He's probably >> Sick Son Goku as well, and even he is implied to be far above Yardrat judging by Tenshinhan's reaction.

[Rocketman]

Gohan defeats Piccolo, but both are weaker than 100% Freeza.

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

Piccolo roflstomps Gohan IMO.

I personally don't see Future Gohan being as powerful as Initial Trunks, while Piccolo easily tooled #20 (Post) and implied #19 and #20 (Pre) were the same guys who SSjin Trunks was terrified of.

He's probably >> Sick Son Goku as well, and even he is implied to be far above Yardrat judging by Tenshinhan's reaction.

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

Piccolo roflstomps Gohan IMO.

I personally don't see Future Gohan being as powerful as Initial Trunks, while Piccolo easily tooled #20 (Post) and implied #19 and #20 (Pre) were the same guys who SSjin Trunks was terrified of.

He's probably >> Sick Son Goku as well, and even he is implied to be far above Yardrat judging by Tenshinhan's reaction.

Wasn't that reaction where the Z-Senshi thought Piccolo was on Super Saiyan level a bullshit Season 4(no less) a dub error from the Funimation/Ocean dubs?

[CatouttaHell]

Wasn't that reaction where the Z-Senshi thought Piccolo was on Super Saiyan level a bullshit Season 4(no less) a dub error from the Funimation/Ocean dubs?

I only go by the Japanese Anime/manga so no.

I couldn't find it in the Strength Checker, but Piccolo asked if they had gotten too strong for the Artificial Humans, apparently confirming that they were indeed stronger than SSjin Trunks like they said they would be.

Considering the fact that even Mecha-Freeza was one-shot material for SSjin Trunks, and #20 (Post) is implied to be a great deal above #20 (Pre,) I would think the gap between Piccolo and an ordinary SSjin is insurmountable IMO.

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

Wasn't that reaction where the Z-Senshi thought Piccolo was on Super Saiyan level a bullshit Season 4(no less) a dub error from the Funimation/Ocean dubs?

I only go by the Japanese Anime/manga so no.

I couldn't find it in the Strength Checker, but Piccolo asked if they had gotten too strong for the Artificial Humans, apparently confirming that they were indeed stronger than SSjin Trunks like they said they would be.

Considering the fact that even Mecha-Freeza was one-shot material for SSjin Trunks, and #20 (Post) is implied to be a great deal above #20 (Pre,) I would think the gap between Piccolo and an ordinary SSjin is insurmountable IMO.

Mecha Freeza is not as weak as you think
Gohan: That's the same Ki my dad had on Namek! Referring to Trunks
Also Trunks said that he would not go easy on Freeza like Goku did so Trunks was not holding back. Gohan says when Freeza first arrived on Earth that Freeza can raise his Ki because his power was nothing close to his full power and he never did a 5 minute power up so Freeza was heavily suppressed when he was caught, I repeat CAUGHT of guard by Trunks. Also Freeza said that Trunks' blast was low level meaning even if he didn't dodge it would do jack to Freeza anyway. So Mecha Freeza full power>Trunks. Piccolo(Android Arc) is strong but not SSJ Level.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Super Saiyan Gohan vs. Perfect Cell (suppressed when he fought Goku)

This is if Gohan actually tried to fight him and wasn't provoked into Super Saiyan 2, and Cell doesn't use his full power.

I think that Gohan is slightly stronger than Cell, but ultimately, regeneration would be the deciding factor, and Cell would win. Considering how it had to take his friends getting beaten up and #16 killed for Gohan to finally rage, I don't think that Cell would be able to enrage him to have a rage boost, and even if he did within the limits of Super Saiyan (not Super Saiyan 2), it still wouldn't be enough to wipe out Cell for good.

Super Saiyan Vegeta (Cell Games) vs. Cell Junior

While I don't think the Cell Juniors can regenerate at all, I believe that they're slightly stronger than Vegeta and, therefore, would win. Plus, although he's arrogant and biased towards his children, Cell said that they can't win against them because they're his children, and Gohan was scared because no-one but Trunks could be revived by the Dragon Balls, perhaps implying that he thinks that the Cell Juniors could kill them all, even Piccolo, Vegeta and Trunks (the three that could hold their own against them).

Chapter: 406 (DBZ 212), P14.2-5
Goku: “Wa-watch out! These guys are ferociously strong!”
Cell: “It’s no use, you absolutely cannot win. They may be small, but they’re my children.”

Chapter: 407 (DBZ 213), P6.5
Vegeta: “Wh-what strength…! A bunch of little squirts like this [is doing this] to me…”

Chapter: 407 (DBZ 213), P7.5
Gohan: “Ev-everyone’s going to be killed..!”

[Rocketman]

If it's a single Cell Jr, I think Vegeta has a chance. I'd go so far as to say he has a better than even chance of winning.

The real problem was even if he did kill his opponent, there's six others who'd immediately stomp him at the Cell Games.