BF's SSJ Theme is fitting actually

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

Some may say this song gives us a message that Goku is a heroic badass but it's not true. Starting from 18 seconds this songs' has a dark side to it as well. Also people say Bruce Faulconer didn't understand the meaning of this scene but it's better then Chou Dragon Soul. At least it isn't as heavy. Proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU5EMlT3 ... re=related

[cRookie_Monster]

Mike did do a good job on that yep

[edit, assumed you meant SSJ3!]

[Gonstead]

I've always thought that the theme was pretty good.

[RazorX]

Julius did do a good job on that yep

I thought you mentioned Julius didn't join Faulconer Productions until they started dubbing the Buu saga?

[cRookie_Monster]

Julius did do a good job on that yep

I thought you mentioned Julius didn't join Faulconer Productions until they started dubbing the Buu saga?

No he joined right at the end of the Cell Saga. By the time the Buu Saga rolled around he was the only guy left, so Buu music is mostly Julius.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

Wow, you seem to be pretty keen on these 'Faulconer vs. others scores' threads. I'm the same way with the movies.

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

Wow, you seem to be pretty keen on these 'Faulconer vs. others scores' threads. I'm the same way with the movies.

Of course I am! Maybe I'll do the next stage for a Christmas special. The one you've been waiting for! Shuki Levy(Who's sold more then any DBZ composer just to let you know) vs Bruce Faulconer(The man who gets mixed views from the world and is usually hated by Latin people for some odd reason)

[Fionordequester]

Scott, if Julius didn't join until the end of the Cell Saga, how could he have worked on composing the SSJ theme?

[cRookie_Monster]

Scott, if Julius didn't join until the end of the Cell Saga, how could he have worked on composing the SSJ theme?

Oh crap somehow I just assumed you were talking about the SSJ3 theme (everyone always does)

Yeah the original SSJ theme was Mike.

[Son Gohan Daimao]

Also people say Bruce Faulconer didn't understand the meaning of this scene but it's better then Chou Dragon Soul.

I don't see why you would mention Chou Super Dragon Soul because:
1) It was not used for the Kai version of Goku's first Super Saiyan transformation unlike the Bruce Faulconer song you are talking about
2) It was an insert song used in Kai. The insert songs in Kai were rarely used to indicate the meaning of the show. They were only used to excite viewers.

But anyway, I still don't think that it works with what was going on. I'm glad that you did get the meaning out of the scene through the dub, but there are too many people who got the wrong impression out of it. The track will always feel (to me) like it's trying to make the scene feel too awesome.

[masterz13]

I wish they would have used The Victor's Dance. Seems more fitting.

[Saiyajin no Tatsujin]

Yeah. I've always loved this theme. One of my favorite from Faulconer.

[RazorX]

Julius did do a good job on that yep

I thought you mentioned Julius didn't join Faulconer Productions until they started dubbing the Buu saga?

No he joined right at the end of the Cell Saga. By the time the Buu Saga rolled around he was the only guy left, so Buu music is mostly Julius.

Oh OK. My reason for asking you that was because if Julius wasn't around for the Frieza saga, he couldnt've made the SSJ theme, but as you clarified later on, it was Mike. The SSJ theme is one of the (admittedly few) Faulconer Productions music that I like so I wanted to know who to give it credit for.

Interesting that Mike, who was apparently there the longest, left at the Buu saga.

Btw, remember when Funimation announced that they were going to redub the Saiyan and Namek sagas? A few sites reported that Faulconer would be back to compose the music. Apparently they got that information from some sort of press release (not sure on that though) but as we know, it was Nathan Johnson who composed the music. It was speculated that Faulconer turned the offer down because he was still angry at not being allowed to compose GT's music, but there's flaws in that theory. If Faulconer can get bitter at not being chosen to compose music for 64 episodes, it's unlikely he'd turn down an offer to compose music for 67 episodes. And, Faulconer had taken Funimation to court which was still pending back then as far as I know, so it's not very likely that Funi would want to work with him in the midst of that.

Do you know anything about whether Faulconer was offered the job as some sites claimed or were they false rumours?

[cRookie_Monster]

Do you know anything about whether Faulconer was offered the job as some sites claimed or were they false rumours?

No I really don't. That would be a question for Julius, I think he was still there at the time. If the offer would have happened during that lawsuit (which lasted several years) then I would seriously doubt it ever happened. Actually I'm pretty doubtful either way.

[penguintruth]

It's okay, but I dislike the guitar blazing bit later in the track. It lacks the raw horror feeling of "Kaibutsu Freeza vs Densetsu no Supaa Saiyajin".

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

It's okay, but I dislike the guitar blazing bit later in the track. It lacks the raw horror feeling of "Kaibutsu Freeza vs Densetsu no Supaa Saiyajin".

Does that mean you also dislike Sūpā doragon souru because that's 90% + guitar? I'm just saying this song is very chilling. The parts without the guitar at least.

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

You do know that Super Dragon Soul was never used in the Super Saiyan transformation scene, right?

Comparing that song to Faulconer's Super Saiyan transformation theme is like comparing the BGM in Piccolo's death scene with CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA.

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

You do know that Super Dragon Soul was never used in the Super Saiyan transformation scene, right?

Comparing that song to Faulconer's Super Saiyan transformation theme is like comparing the BGM in Piccolo's death scene with CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA.

Then how come when I go on Youtube videos I see Super Dragon Soul in the video and it's not an AMV so yeah?

[VegettoEX]

Then how come when I go on Youtube videos I see Super Dragon Soul in the video and it's not an AMV so yeah?

The same reason you can go on YouTube and find clips of Naruto with Bleach BGM. People make stuff for their own jollies and put it up to share.

Prior to the scene actually appearing in the show, since the song had been around for a few months due to its CD release, lots of folks assumed it might go there and inserted it with clips to see if it would work. After the clip debuted, other fans still wanted to see how it would have worked in that scene, and continued to make clips with it. That's all there is to it.

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

Then how come when I go on Youtube videos I see Super Dragon Soul in the video and it's not an AMV so yeah?

The same reason you can go on YouTube and find clips of Naruto with Bleach BGM. People make stuff for their own jollies and put it up to share.

Prior to the scene actually appearing in the show, since the song had been around for a few months due to its CD release, lots of folks assumed it might go there and inserted it with clips to see if it would work. After the clip debuted, other fans still wanted to see how it would have worked in that scene, and continued to make clips with it. That's all there is to it.

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