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Post by Puto » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:25 am

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Puto wrote:Galician Kai keeps every dubism except Space Warriors for Saiyans. From episode 1 alone: Songoku, Songohanda, Cachalote, Freezer, Onda Vital, Mutenroi, Tenshian, Piccoro. Script is very clearly translated from the English dub, too (has those little quirks such as calling Chichi Gokū's 'childhood sweetheart').
What about episode 17, though? Does the English version of "Over the Star" play (like in the Mexican Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese dubs)? Because that would be a 100% guarantee that it's based on the English dub. If you hear the Japanese version, then there's no way that it's based on the English dub. If, on the other hand, they dubbed it into Galician...then it could be either.
It's not based on the English *footage* (as in, I don't think they actually got masters from FUNimation; especially since it's the 16:9 masters), so the M&E tracks shouldn't have the song in English. It's just that they're very clearly translating from the English *script* (the uncut script; many lines in episode 1 were very clearly translated from the English uncut script -- Mutenrōshi-- sorry, "Mutenroi's" pervy line, for instance, was a literal translation of "You could always let me sample some of those OTHER goodies!", the narrator at the beginning talks about how 'Gokū--err, 'Songoku' married his high-school sweetheart, Chichi" and a few other lines that have various FUNimation-specific wording in them. It's not as blatant as it could be because the English dub is actually accurate this time around, but looking into it deeply, you can tell by some quirks of the way things are worded.
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Post by kei17 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:33 am

The Catalan TV channel seems to have been broadcasting Kai with three audio tracks; the Catalan dub, the Catalan dub w/ audio commentary for the blind, and the original Japanese version w/ the Kikuchi score. It might be the first TV channel outside Japan that finished airing the Japanese version of the Namek/Freeza arc with Kikuchi's score.
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Post by Gonstead » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:01 am

Was watching Kai on NZ Cartoon Network a while back.

They cut the battle with Trunks vs Goku where Goku used his finger to block Trunks's sword and instead just cut away to Trunks sheathing his sword after Goku telling Trunks "I sense no evil intent in you so I knew you wouldn't attack me".

Seriously? No Sword fighting allowed.

Oh well, at least they use footage from the uncut DVD releases.
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Post by sangofe » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:50 pm

kei17 wrote:The Catalan TV channel seems to have been broadcasting Kai with three audio tracks; the Catalan dub, the Catalan dub w/ audio commentary for the blind, and the original Japanese version w/ the Kikuchi score. It might be the first TV channel outside Japan that finished airing the Japanese version of the Namek/Freeza arc with Kikuchi's score.
France's censored airing of Kai's at episode 59, and it's using the Kikuchi score. It's been using that one since the very beginning.

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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:30 pm

Gonstead wrote:Was watching Kai on NZ Cartoon Network a while back.

They cut the battle with Trunks vs Goku where Goku used his finger to block Trunks's sword and instead just cut away to Trunks sheathing his sword after Goku telling Trunks "I sense no evil intent in you so I knew you wouldn't attack me".

Seriously? No Sword fighting allowed.

Oh well, at least they use footage from the uncut DVD releases.
Seriously? Y'know with the time slot they have, you'd think they'd be able to get away with an uncut broadcast. :?

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Post by Gonstead » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:59 pm

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Gonstead wrote:Was watching Kai on NZ Cartoon Network a while back.

They cut the battle with Trunks vs Goku where Goku used his finger to block Trunks's sword and instead just cut away to Trunks sheathing his sword after Goku telling Trunks "I sense no evil intent in you so I knew you wouldn't attack me".

Seriously? No Sword fighting allowed.

Oh well, at least they use footage from the uncut DVD releases.
Seriously? Y'know with the time slot they have, you'd think they'd be able to get away with an uncut broadcast. :?
I know right?

I'm wondering how they even did the Trunks vs Frieza fight if sword fighting isn't allowed.

I think they removed all the Bastard curses as well.

It's almost as bad as Toonzai.
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Post by BluezaBladeNZ » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:40 pm

I have a friend at course whose been watching Kai on CN so I'll ask him how the Trunks vs. Freeza fight was handled. He mentioned that a couple of the episodes around the end of the Freeza arc were completely Yamamoto's score as well.

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Post by Gonstead » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:46 pm

BluezaBladeNZ wrote:I have a friend at course whose been watching Kai on CN so I'll ask him how the Trunks vs. Freeza fight was handled. He mentioned that a couple of the episodes around the end of the Freeza arc were completely Yamamoto's score as well.
Cheers, that would be great of ya!

Yamamoto, eh? That's certainly interesting.
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Post by kei17 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:05 am

sangofe wrote:
kei17 wrote:The Catalan TV channel seems to have been broadcasting Kai with three audio tracks; the Catalan dub, the Catalan dub w/ audio commentary for the blind, and the original Japanese version w/ the Kikuchi score. It might be the first TV channel outside Japan that finished airing the Japanese version of the Namek/Freeza arc with Kikuchi's score.
France's censored airing of Kai's at episode 59, and it's using the Kikuchi score. It's been using that one since the very beginning.
Is that the French dub or the original Japanese version? I am talking about the Japanese version w/ the Kikuchi score. And, the Catalan dub airing is now at episode 75, so I think they finished airing the Namek/Freeza arc earlier anyway.

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Post by sangofe » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:55 am

kei17 wrote:
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kei17 wrote:The Catalan TV channel seems to have been broadcasting Kai with three audio tracks; the Catalan dub, the Catalan dub w/ audio commentary for the blind, and the original Japanese version w/ the Kikuchi score. It might be the first TV channel outside Japan that finished airing the Japanese version of the Namek/Freeza arc with Kikuchi's score.
France's censored airing of Kai's at episode 59, and it's using the Kikuchi score. It's been using that one since the very beginning.
Is that the French dub or the original Japanese version? I am talking about the Japanese version w/ the Kikuchi score. And, the Catalan dub airing is now at episode 75, so I think they finished airing the Namek/Freeza arc earlier anyway.
It feels like Kai's been on Gameone subbed forever now, so I'd think they're at the end or already aired everything, but don't take that for granted; I haven't been following the subbed broadcasting. I guess I could check out one night, though, but I usually go to bed before it airs (11 PM).

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Post by kei17 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:28 am

It seems that J2, a TV channel in Hong Kong, will start broadcasting Kai soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re18-m3Pfe4#t=29s
sangofe wrote:It feels like Kai's been on Gameone subbed forever now, so I'd think they're at the end or already aired everything, but don't take that for granted; I haven't been following the subbed broadcasting. I guess I could check out one night, though, but I usually go to bed before it airs (11 PM).
Thanks for the info! You go to bed early, don't you? :)

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Post by Arique » Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:43 pm

kei17 wrote:It seems that J2, a TV channel in Hong Kong, will start broadcasting Kai soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re18-m3Pfe4#t=29s
That's weird. It uses the "Z Kai" labeling, yet it's the 16:9 Widescreen crop that was used in the Fuji TV airing.
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Post by kei17 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:20 am

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kei17 wrote:It seems that J2, a TV channel in Hong Kong, will start broadcasting Kai soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re18-m3Pfe4#t=29s
That's weird. It uses the "Z Kai" labeling, yet it's the 16:9 Widescreen crop that was used in the Fuji TV airing.
Spain (Catalunya and Galicia), France, and Taiwan also have been using the same footage. Toei seems to be exporting both 4:3 and 16:9 masters on demand. What I find rather strange about the trailer is that the narrator says "龍珠改" (Dragon Ball Kai) instead of "龍珠Z改", though the title says "Dragon Ball Z Kai". The same thing happened in Brazil.

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kei17 wrote:It seems that J2, a TV channel in Hong Kong, will start broadcasting Kai soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re18-m3Pfe4#t=29s
sangofe wrote:It feels like Kai's been on Gameone subbed forever now, so I'd think they're at the end or already aired everything, but don't take that for granted; I haven't been following the subbed broadcasting. I guess I could check out one night, though, but I usually go to bed before it airs (11 PM).
Thanks for the info! You go to bed early, don't you? :)
No problem, and yes, I like my sleep, and since there are noises here often from 07:30 and on, I need to go to bed relatively "early". I guess I could check it out on saturday or tonight. Too bad I don't have the HD channel. (And Mike; you really should make an international Kai update soon!)

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Post by biohazard » Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:05 pm

The piece nº M920 (Possesed Piccolo's Battle in DBZ movie2) sounded while Cell announces to Trunks his intentions about the Cell Games (Kai episode 82) today when I was watching the new episode of the catalan dub. I'm really surprised because no DBZ movie2 songs were used till now. Besides, this song is mono if I'm not mistaken...

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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:09 pm

All insert songs from Kai in the Catalan dub are still in Japanese right?
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Post by BluezaBladeNZ » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:02 am

Gonstead wrote:Cheers, that would be great of ya!

Yamamoto, eh? That's certainly interesting.
I asked him about this yesterday and he claims that the Trunks slicing Freeza segment is still there, but the scene where Trunks repeatedly strikes Goku was indeed cut.

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Post by Gonstead » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:07 am

BluezaBladeNZ wrote:
Gonstead wrote:Cheers, that would be great of ya!

Yamamoto, eh? That's certainly interesting.
I asked him about this yesterday and he claims that the Trunks slicing Freeza segment is still there, but the scene where Trunks repeatedly strikes Goku was indeed cut.
Huh, strange censorship then I guess.
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:13 am

And who said Kai would be in better hands with Cartoon Network? :lol:

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:25 am

^ Fanboys.

Z Kai has been dubbed in Catalán and Gallego, I wonder what's taking so long to release the Castellano dub.

According to what I've been told it's going to be a DVD-only release, so no TV version.

Edit: I hope the Castellano dub will be more like the Catalán/Gallego, at least they use Son Goku's full name unlike on the Latin Spanish / Brazilian Portuguese (I am the Super Saiyajin, Goku!!).

I don't mind Freezer (Freeza), Célula (Cell), Son Gohanda (Son Gohan), or other minor mistakes (to be frank, I kinda like these typos :P) but the voice acting needs to be top notch, this time!
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