Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 16; Still Unreleased

[Gonstead]

Wasn't the last case with the Westwod dub also tight-lipped?

[Super Sayian Prime]

I still don't understand why they're being so low-profile about this. Is this just to maintain the element of surprise, or are they legally obligated not to say anything about the dub just yet?

Whoever is paying Ocean is likely not interested in talking to the public, but rather just making their money. Ocean's Dragon Ball Kai dub hasn't actually been officially announced yet.

[sangofe]

Why wouldn't Brian Drummond be in this? Is he busy doing another show or something?

Well, the previous Goku got the boot for sounding "too cool"...so maybe Drummond got the boot for sounding "too evil"?

Too bad Kelamis isn't doing Goku... after listening to his performances I can safely say I prefer him of all the English Goku's I've heard.

Edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jQ7YZSTNF4
This is Vegeta in the Blue Water dub? That... that voice sounds strange for Vegeta... I've never seen this kind of approach for his voice...

[batistabus]

Edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jQ7YZSTNF4
This is Vegeta in the Blue Water dub? That... that voice sounds strange for Vegeta... I've never seen this kind of approach for his voice...

Wow...dat acting...
Anyway, yeah, that is kinda weird. He sounds like FUNi Trunks.

[Gonstead]

Edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jQ7YZSTNF4
This is Vegeta in the Blue Water dub? That... that voice sounds strange for Vegeta... I've never seen this kind of approach for his voice...

Wow...dat acting...
Anyway, yeah, that is kinda weird. He sounds like FUNi Trunks.

Nah, sounds like Kai's Jeice to me.

There's also this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcRBke8zF6A

[NitroEX]

Despite that crap Vegeta voice I've always liked the Blue water GT dub mostly for the music and the fact that Pan actually sounds like a kid. I think they picked a good voice for Kid Goku too.

I was fortunate enough to watch both GT dubs growing up because at the time it was airing I moved country. It always bugged me that in Funimation version the little robot was called Giru instead of Gill.

[penguintruth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jQ7YZSTNF4

Oh god... sides hurting...

Wow, even Chris Sabat's early stuff is better than that.

This guy sounds like DBZ Abridged Nappa.

[dagame10k]

Wasn't the last case with the Westwod dub also tight-lipped?

Internet social media has seen 12 years worth of evolution since 2000, it's easier to get info then it it was 12 years ago. When FUNimation dumped Ocean, people thought that was the end of that, nobody expected a then Studio contractor(not a Licensing company) at the time, would actually go a head and produce their own dub of an Anime.
Nobody seen it coming, it just appeared on TV one day.

Kirby morrow dished out the info about the early production of Ocean Kai production on Trevor Devall's internet chat show Voice print, stuff like that remotely similar to "Pod casts" weren't around at the time of Z.

Anyway with Scott McNeil confirming he's working on the dub, I'm looking forward to his Piccolo most of all, given how long it's taking, I'm looking forward to hearing the end result of some excellent recording sessions, Word fit shouldn't rear it's head in this production like it did in the Westwood production for obvious reasons.

Going to Speculate a bit, and it's wishful thinking on my part, they don't seem to be rushing this, there is a minor possibility that they hadn't completed the casting in the early stages, finding someone to play the main character is very important, and I would definitely like to see Ian Corlett return as Goku, ADR sessions are done one on one in-studio with director and and actor so it's not exactly out of the realm possbility.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Anyway with Scott McNeil confirming he's working on the dub----

W-WAIT, WHAT!?

*checks the internet, YouTube, and other places to confirm*

......YAAAAAAY!!!!!! Aww man, this is AWESOME news! I'm amazed that he used the phrase, "Screw the NDA," though...actors can get into huge trouble for that sort of thing. Sometimes its just a slap on the wrist, which is what Sonny Strait more or less got when he accidentally broke his NDA for his role in "Soul Eater," but sometimes it results in the actor getting fired. That would be a real bummer.

[ConfusedPhantom]

Why wouldn't Brian Drummond be in this? Is he busy doing another show or something?

Well, the previous Goku got the boot for sounding "too cool"...so maybe Drummond got the boot for sounding "too evil"?

Too bad Kelamis isn't doing Goku... after listening to his performances I can safely say I prefer him of all the English Goku's I've heard.

Edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jQ7YZSTNF4
This is Vegeta in the Blue Water dub? That... that voice sounds strange for Vegeta... I've never seen this kind of approach for his voice...

...Um...WOW! O_O

Vegeta's voice aside....I think Goten's voice in there could work pretty well as Goku. o.o;

[jordanator]

Do you reckon it'd be possible for Ocean to reuse their previous score (DBZ) for Kai? Or would it be easier (legality-wise) to either create a completely new score, or use the Kikuchi one?

[Gonstead]

Do you reckon it'd be possible for Ocean to reuse their previous score (DBZ) for Kai? Or would it be easier (legality-wise) to either create a completely new score, or use the Kikuchi one?

If they are indeed using a replacement score, you can throw Kikuchi out as an option.

The easiest thing to do would be to re-use a previous score but honestly thats really kind of lazy. I can understand what they did with the westwood dub since they were on a tight schedule but if they are indeed taking their time with the dub, a new score would be more likely.

I hope at least the score would be fitting to the show.

[jordanator]

Do you reckon it'd be possible for Ocean to reuse their previous score (DBZ) for Kai? Or would it be easier (legality-wise) to either create a completely new score, or use the Kikuchi one?

If they are indeed using a replacement score, you can throw Kikuchi out as an option.

The easiest thing to do would be to re-use a previous score but honestly thats really kind of lazy. I can understand what they did with the westwood dub since they were on a tight schedule but if they are indeed taking their time with the dub, a new score would be more likely.

I hope at least the score would be fitting to the show.

Right, I see. It may be lazy to reuse it, although I, and I'm sure many others would love it. I'm really fond of the score that Ocean used to air DBZ and I think it fits the show perfectly. I grew up in the UK, so we didn't get a Funi dub or score, we got the Ocean Dub with their own score. And, as I watch Funimation's and Kikuchi's score nowadays, and contrast them to the Ocean score, it really just does not compare to the Ocean score. To me, there is an outstanding different between each one. Now, it may certainly be nostalgia, but to me, the Ocean score conveyed Dragonball Z in a completely different different sense and allowed me to become attached to the show. The mood, and the atmosphere of the show is completely different when I watch the Ocean score and the other scores. I felt (and still feel) really immersed into the Dragon Ball universe with Ocean's dub combined with their score and it even allowed me to appreciate the characters a lot more, and all of their traits. Now I'm certainly not bashing any version of the show or their respective score's, I love 'em all.

But, that is just my opinion, and is how I regard the that particular score.

[kei17]

I'd be glad if John Mitchell and Tom Keenlyside composed a completely new score, but it's very unlikely to happen. I know that making a dub score is regarded as a stupid idea in the current era, but to me, the Kikuchi-Kai mix is so terrible that I even prefer a dub score over it (Don't get me wrong: I hate it since I love the Kikuchi score so much. It's just that I can't stand the unprofessional music placement). In addition, I want to hear a new score composed specifically for the DB series just out of curiosity.

[dagame10k]

Judging from past history, the Ocean Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT dubs which used the repective shows original score, I would assume that they would use the Alternate/Replacement Kai Score with the Kikuchi composed pieces. The Yamamoto fallout may have thrown a wrench in their plans, I haven't been paying much attention to the alternate score situation, don't know what episodes have received completed replacement.
What is the current situation at this point, have any of the earlier episodes received replacements at this point?

Original Ocean Dragon Ball Z music piece
The above is the only original piece of music from the Mitchell/Keenlyside Westwood score that I ever noticed(There are likely more undiscovered original pieces). If Ocean has decided that creating a new score for it's dub is the best option, I can only hope they create a new score with a sound base that heavily improves upon the sound base of the above. I would like to have a more intricate full orchestrated sound that is matches with whats going on, on screen, as apposed to the empty, soft, simple synth sound of that of the Monster Rancher, and more so MegaMan material.

[kei17]

What is the current situation at this point, have any of the earlier episodes received replacements at this point?

They have already finished replacing the entire score in all 98 episodes.

Original Ocean Dragon Ball Z music piece
The above is the only original piece of music from the Mitchell/Keenlyside Westwood score that I ever noticed(There are likely more undiscovered original pieces).

I know three or so other original pieces they composed for DBZ.

*Edit: Here are three of them:
http://www.4shared.com/mp3/Afio5AGE/westwood01.html
http://www.4shared.com/mp3/VTq_jSSY/westwood02.html
http://www.4shared.com/mp3/ilO49cRF/westwood03.html

[dagame10k]

They have already finished replacing the entire score in all 98 episodes.

The original broadcast score is Kai's score despite all the lifting from other sources, and it's final shelving by Toei, it's Kai's intended score in my opinion. I expect that they'll use the Kikuchi music replacement score, and that I won't have to watch an episode of the Japanese version with the replacement score, but if they use a newly composed score, I'm going to be pushed into watching a chunk of the Japanese version with replacement all so can come up with my thoughts....
It will be interesting finding out what they finally do.

I know three or so other original pieces they composed for DBZ.

*Edit: Here are three of them:
http://www.4shared.com/mp3/Afio5AGE/westwood01.html
http://www.4shared.com/mp3/VTq_jSSY/westwood02.html
http://www.4shared.com/mp3/ilO49cRF/westwood03.html

I hadn't though about it in years, but
01 I think I had in my mind at one point as a possible original Z piece as it has the similar feel of one in my clip, they have that distinctive sound not heard in Mega Man and Monster Rancher.
02 after listening to it, reminds me of other similar sounding weird preview pieces that might also be original.
03 sunrises me, I had always thought it was a Mega Man piece.

Interesting

[Gonstead]

I have a few Ocean Dub songs on my OceanDubSoundtrack channel, one of which includes one of those original pieces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kcftuUi_JU (Original Piece)

The rest of these are just from the reused score. I'm not entirely familiar with Monster Rancher Music but I can identify Mega Man tracks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkifN-0hvWQ (Unknown)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV4cwNY0EPg (Mega Man)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbOplprKTUw (Mega Man)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E74EgpSPsYw (Mega Man)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ROorWAL7MM (Mega Man)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC4LPRMIRUc (Mega Man)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwNcaealm7Q (Mega Man)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUyn02j6mQ8 (Mega Man)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Had-i-W-Lf8 (Mega Man)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZOgT6JKLaU (Mega Man)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRWrx6y-bB0 (Definitely Mega Man)

IMO the score is decent in my eyes (ears?) but by no means the absolute greatest thing to have ever been composed.

[penguintruth]

I'd prefer if they didn't use replacement music at all. In fact, I'm pretty sure it would deflate any interest I have in an Ocean dub of Kai.

[Pokewhiz7]

I'd prefer if they didn't use replacement music at all. In fact, I'm pretty sure it would deflate any interest I have in an Ocean dub of Kai.

What if it ends up being good?