What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by Saiga » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:49 pm

Gonstead wrote:
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Gonstead wrote:Dragon Ball Multiverse should of used this idea in their tournament, would of been quite funny with Goku meeting Ginyu-Goku.

That, or a universe where after Ginyu acquires Goku's body, he eventually sets into it, unlocks Kaioken, kills Freeza by unlocking Super Saiyan and eventually becomes ruler of the Universe.
Ginyu-Goku is seen in the spectators stand. :wink:
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At some point during the Broli-Vegetto fight, IIRC. I think it may be at the end of the fight, where they show a shot of the crowd you, can see him there.
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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by Gonstead » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:25 pm

Oh boy thats gonna take a while.
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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by Gonstead » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:28 am

Hah! Now I can see him!

He looks kinda of sad or angry.
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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:06 pm

Michsi wrote:Well, AT did mention that the namekians might be hermaphrodites, which would fit with the snail/slug theme, but be a bit weird.
Well, since he wasn't being definite and we could put it down to his infamous forgetfulness, then it's irrelevant, since the manga establishes that they reproduce asexually.
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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by Michsi » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:33 pm

Well, since he wasn't being definite and we could put it down to his infamous forgetfulness, then it's irrelevant, since the manga establishes that they reproduce asexually.
I doubt he forgot how he made namekians reprodoce and as far as I remember, he almost always uses "might" and "I think" in interviews, so in that case, one could also rule out that Yamcha gets married. I think it was an answer to a fan question if namekians were plants and instead of stopping with just denying that, he went on to explain it better. That it makes things weirder is somthing else. Anyway, I prefer to stick to the gernderless or at most, for some magical unexplained reason, male.

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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:23 pm

Michsi wrote:
Well, since he wasn't being definite and we could put it down to his infamous forgetfulness, then it's irrelevant, since the manga establishes that they reproduce asexually.
I doubt he forgot how he made namekians reprodoce and as far as I remember, he almost always uses "might" and "I think" in interviews, so in that case, one could also rule out that Yamcha gets married. I think it was an answer to a fan question if namekians were plants and instead of stopping with just denying that, he went on to explain it better. That it makes things weirder is somthing else. Anyway, I prefer to stick to the gernderless or at most, for some magical unexplained reason, male.
I wouldn't rule anything out with Toriyama. And, like you said, he almost always uses "might" and "I think" in interviews, so he wasn't being definite. Either way, the series itself tells us that Namekians are asexual.
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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by Saiga » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:37 pm

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Michsi wrote:Well, AT did mention that the namekians might be hermaphrodites, which would fit with the snail/slug theme, but be a bit weird.
Well, since he wasn't being definite and we could put it down to his infamous forgetfulness, then it's irrelevant, since the manga establishes that they reproduce asexually.
Perhaps not all Namekians are capable of asexual reproduction? We only know of Guru and Daimao doing it, and it seemed to be a dangerous thing for Daimao.
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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:53 pm

Saiga wrote:
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Michsi wrote:Well, AT did mention that the namekians might be hermaphrodites, which would fit with the snail/slug theme, but be a bit weird.
Well, since he wasn't being definite and we could put it down to his infamous forgetfulness, then it's irrelevant, since the manga establishes that they reproduce asexually.
Perhaps not all Namekians are capable of asexual reproduction? We only know of Guru and Daimao doing it, and it seemed to be a dangerous thing for Daimao.
Even so, that still doesn't mean that they're not all asexual, when nothing suggests that. I don't know whether or not this is irrelevant, but even in real-life, there are humans who can't reproduce. And it only seemed to be a dangerous thing for Daimao because of his age. When he restores his youth, he spits out Drum, who's even stronger than his previous henchmen, without any trouble. Dende has no knowledge of genders, and Guru and Daimao are shown reproducing asexually, therefore why shouldn't we assume that all Namekians are asexual?
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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by Saiga » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:27 pm

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Even so, that still doesn't mean that they're not all asexual, when nothing suggests that. I don't know whether or not this is irrelevant, but even in real-life, there are humans who can't reproduce. And it only seemed to be a dangerous thing for Daimao because of his age. When he restores his youth, he spits out Drum, who's even stronger than his previous henchmen, without any trouble. Dende has no knowledge of genders, and Guru and Daimao are shown reproducing asexually, therefore why shouldn't we assume that all Namekians are asexual?
Oh I agree, I was just saying there is a possibility of the hermaphrodite statement being valid. But it's a lot simpler to dismiss it and go with what we already know.
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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by Monkey D Goku » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:59 am

Lol I think Goku could probably get used to Ginyu's body but I remember Gohan freaking out about it.
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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:17 pm

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Fox666 wrote:I can imagine at the end of the Boo saga, after Pure Boo was defeated:

- Goku: Hey Chi-chi, Rou Kaioshin gave his life to me, so I will life with you again.
- Chi-chi: You have been dead for 7 years!! I am married with Yamcha now. You expect I would raise Gohan and Goten all by myself?
Lol. I can imagine Goku's response.

Goku: Huh. ... OK, then! See ya, guys! *flies off*
Yamcha: :shock: ...He took that surprisingly well.
Chi-Chi: He always does. :x
I'd imagine he'd say something like, "But you'll still cook me dinner and stuff, right?"
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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by Gonstead » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:18 pm

I would love to see the reactions of the Z fighters and Frieza when they would eventually meet up.
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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by Jackal puFF » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:05 pm

Vegeta would probably have killed Goku and everyone else.

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Re: What if Goku stayed in Ginyu's body?

Post by Master Blaster » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:14 pm

Jackal puFF wrote:Vegeta would probably have killed Goku and everyone else.
Yes, I also think that's highly likely.

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