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Re: Laws

Post by Rocketman » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:21 am

Scarz wrote:You're wrong, she escaped before they were able to execute her and she lived the rest of her life as a truck driver.
Filler doesn't count, sadly.

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Re: Laws

Post by allfornot2 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:31 am

Rocketman wrote:
Scarz wrote:You're wrong, she escaped before they were able to execute her and she lived the rest of her life as a truck driver.
Filler doesn't count, sadly.
Didn't she show up very briefly in the 2008 Special? Though you could probably make a case for lumping that in with filler as well.

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Re: Laws

Post by Monkey D Goku » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:27 am

If they can construct hover cars and cities with out constant riots and have a dog as a world president I'm sure they have some laws. Also as someone mentioned the police officer that helped Goku get to capsule corp was there and they do have a money system in place. I wouldn't be surprised if the government likes to keep things quiet notice how nobody brings up the city nappa destroyed or piccolo again. Although when cell came along that quietness probably got thrown out the window.
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Re: Laws

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:23 pm

Rocketman wrote:Goku beat up some police for trying to arrest a murdering bank robber.
When was it ever said that Lunch was a murderer?
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Re: Laws

Post by Fox666 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:39 pm

We at least see her firing at cops with a shotgun and throwing a grenade on one of the cars...

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Re: Laws

Post by Turtle bits » Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:16 am

Silver Sinspawn wrote:Though it may seem like an obvious answer, does the Dragon Ball Universe actually have any laws? We see everyone commiting all kinds of crimes, including multiple murders, but no form of law enforcement ever seems to appear. Ever.

EDIT: Appear and actually do anything
Like, for example, when krillan was (first) murdered there werent any investigators that we saw, but when tambourine hunted down martial artists there was radio news reports about them, in other examples like other users stated with lunch, it seems enforcement is entirely useless heh,

Also, no one knew of cell at first because there were no survivors, Nappa destroyed the city they landed in right away, and as far as buu goes, its been a whiiille but it seems like, vegeta was never mentioned as a threat by the DB ”z” news.

Id say yes, DB reflects real world laws, but we never see any success with enforcing them. Like, for one thing, they didnt capture cell and put him in court for his killings, its certainly not like american comics where the joker is constantly put back in Arkham. DB's heroes dont abide by ”that” law I suppose. For good reason of course, I'm just saying...

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Re: Laws

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:34 am

Turtle bits wrote:
Silver Sinspawn wrote:Though it may seem like an obvious answer, does the Dragon Ball Universe actually have any laws? We see everyone commiting all kinds of crimes, including multiple murders, but no form of law enforcement ever seems to appear. Ever.

EDIT: Appear and actually do anything
Like, for example, when krillan was (first) murdered there werent any investigators that we saw, but when tambourine hunted down martial artists there was radio news reports about them, in other examples like other users stated with lunch, it seems enforcement is entirely useless heh,

Also, no one knew of cell at first because there were no survivors, Nappa destroyed the city they landed in right away, and as far as buu goes, its been a whiiille but it seems like, vegeta was never mentioned as a threat by the DB ”z” news.

Id say yes, DB reflects real world laws, but we never see any success with enforcing them. Like, for one thing, they didnt capture cell and put him in court for his killings, its certainly not like american comics where the joker is constantly put back in Arkham. DB's heroes dont abide by ”that” law I suppose. For good reason of course, I'm just saying...
Read the manga. When the tournament announcer asked if they should call the police, the warriors said no, because they didn't want a media outrage (Daimao had already laid waste to the Earth before) and they wouldn't be able to do anything about it anyway. Only the warriors and the tournament announcer knew about Kuririn's death, since it'd happened after the final had finished and everyone had gone, and then they carried Kuririn back to Kame House. It's not as if they're going to get a call from the police one day, saying that his parents are worried sick, since the police may not even know where Kame House is (Kame-sennin can literally pop it into a capsule, drive to some other beach and pop it back there without anyone turning up at his door about a permit, tax, etc.), it's debatable whether or not he even has parents that are alive or keep in touch with him, and the only people he hangs around with are the main characters.

When Tambourine killed Namu, they had to report it, because the warriors couldn't stop it (they weren't affiliated with Namu, so they couldn't phone him up or anything) and the authorities would've found it and discovered it as strange that a third-place Tenkaichi Budoukai participant was randomly killed without provocation.

Cell was reported because a bunch of people in Ginger Town randomly vanished, leaving only clothes, and the destruction of that city was put down to their space pods (since all of Vegeta and Nappa's witnesses would've been destroyed when the latter blew up the city), which Bulma later accidentally exploded. And, obviously, Bobbodi told everyone about Boo. They sent Mr. Satan, the planet's saviour who they believed had killed Cell, to defeat him.

The only reason that the authorities "never have any success with enforcing them" is because the main focus of the series is super-powered villains, not your average gun-wielding Joe thieves, that can easily wipe out the entire military with a mere flick of their finger. How the fuck would the police attempt to approach a humanoid bug who can literally suck you right up through his tail?

Out-of-universe explanation: don't think about it too hard. It's a kids' show. Even the relationships are about as flimsy and unrealistic as a levitating, broken pancake, because Toriyama doesn't do romance. I mean, seriously, Kuririn & #18. What the fuck is that? Guy gets boner over murderer who just beat his friends up > forms strange infatuation with said murderer > wastes wish on her bomb removal > murderer mistakes it as a compassion > 7 years later, they're married with a kid? :?

We don't really learn about the characters' jobs, yet they still have enough money to buy food, planes, etc. Even freakin' Tenshinhan (he flies a plane to the king's castle to fight Daimaou), who bums around in the mountains with Chaozu all day.
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Re: Laws

Post by NANLIT » Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:00 pm

If I remember correctly, when Goku told his friends he defeated the Red Ribbon Army Headquarters, Bulma mentioned that the authorities couldn't do anything about them. Now if the authorities couldn't do anything to an army that 12, going on 13, year old Goku defeated by himself (with some help against White's and Blue's forces), then that automatically means that all future opponents that Goku would struggle with before defeating them would have no problem dealing with the Earth's official army as well, thus making them irrelevant.

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Re: Laws

Post by Akumaito Beam » Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:14 pm

Rocketman wrote:Goku beat up some police for trying to arrest a murdering bank robber.

That's why Lunch vanished. After she left the extralegal protection of the main cast, she was arrested and executed.
I'd like to remind the court Mr.Kuririn has zero association with this Son Goku fellow.

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Re: Laws

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:49 pm

NANLIT wrote:If I remember correctly, when Goku told his friends he defeated the Red Ribbon Army Headquarters, Bulma mentioned that the authorities couldn't do anything about them. Now if the authorities couldn't do anything to an army that 12, going on 13, year old Goku defeated by himself (with some help against White's and Blue's forces), then that automatically means that all future opponents that Goku would struggle with before defeating them would have no problem dealing with the Earth's official army as well, thus making them irrelevant.
Yep, that's right.
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Context: Everyone is impressed that Goku beat the Red Ribbon Army single-handedly.
Roshi: “He just keeps surprising me…”
Bulma: “Even the po-police couldn’t do anything against the Red Ribbon Army…”
Blonde Lunch: “But that little squirt…”
Yamcha: “It’s a miracle…”
Goku: “Naw! I just got stronger again! You climbed it a long time ago, too, didn’t you, Old Timer? Karin Tower?”
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Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.

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Re: Laws

Post by Turtle bits » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:10 am

@Piccolo daimao

Ahh..I've never read the entire DB manga, the part about Namu wasnt mentioned in the dub as i recall, maybe not even in the anime, except for his picture on the news.

Oh, when I said capturing cell, i meant the heroes, they didnt capture him and give him a trial, him as a random example, to say that goku, gohan, etc cant follow our ”laws” the same way, but point made heh.

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Re: Laws

Post by Dabooyaka » Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:39 am

What about when the whole army tried to take Cell out? There is also police when a bank is being robbed in the saiyan-man arc. The airforce does come after Nappa as well.

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Re: Laws

Post by B » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:43 pm

Anytime someone is killed in Dragon Ball:
1) It happens in the middle of fuck-all nowhere. Or
2) They're killed by people with the ability to destroy entire buildings/cities/stars in one go.

I'm sure Farmer with Shotgun's family found his lifeless body, filed a police report, and mourned for years at the fact they never found out who did it, but do we really need to see that in a children's comic?
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Re: Laws

Post by Gonstead » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:15 am

Never did see Farmer with Shotgun's body after Gohan was taken away by Raditz.

In some sick twisted way, I thought sometimes Raditz ate the body himself but of course it was one of the local wild deer.

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