Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by batistabus » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:09 pm

I'm going to jump on the band wagon and go ahead and say "the art is awesome, but that translation is god-awful". Seriously. Some grammatical errors here and there are fine...I guess. But this is ridiculous.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:47 pm

I'm liking the art work, I can't wait for the next chapter.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Rukura » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:36 am

The art actually looks good, but we've already seen this before (and I'm not just talking about the terrible translation *bah dum tchin*). Looking forward to seeing where this branches off....in morbid dread. Something tells me it might take longer than it should...
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:51 pm

If the radar isn't picking up the dragon balls that means Gast may already be in action. It could also explain the situation. No dragon balls = everybody stays dead. I'm curious if Gast will kill Vegeta when he arrives.

And I know its beating a dead horse but I just hate the grammatical hackjob, here more than most. In the goofier specials like Bojack with all the wtflol faces it doesn't do that much more damage. But in something like this, that's both interesting and looks good, it's just crushing. Is Salagir that adamant about not bringing an editor on board? It's seriously getting worse.

Does anybody know how to contact him? Because I'll do it myself if nobody else will. I don't even need advance pages or anything. I'll just go through everything as its posted and point out the panels in need of some clean up.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by The Jackal » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:23 pm

TonyTheTiger wrote: Is Salagir that adamant about not bringing an editor on board? It's seriously getting worse.
Salagir calls Bardock "Baddock" which makes no sense and refuses to change it, even when the comic's been translated to English, as well as in Japanese (which reeks of arrogance to me; expecting the original manga's native toungue to put up with his new name for an already established, original character he doesn't own). I very much doubt he cares about grammer tbh.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Pantalones » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:36 pm

Salagir calls Bardock "Baddock" which makes no sense and refuses to change it, even when the comic's been translated to English, as well as in Japanese (which reeks of arrogance to me; expecting the original manga's native toungue to put up with his new name for an already established, original character he doesn't own).
Well... "Bardock" and "Baddack" (and "burdock," for that matter) would probably all be written about the same in Japanese (something like "baadakku"/バーダック), so the Japanese-language readers probably don't even notice that one unless they also speak English, know what his name is supposed to be in English, and read the English version of the comic also.
Or if he actually misspells it in Japanese... maybe writing it as baddakku/バッダック or badakku/バダック instead of baadakku/バーダック? That's all I can think of.

(The bad grammar, though, is probably a problem all across the board... unless the translators for those languages are a lot better at it than whoever does the English translation, of course.)

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:26 pm

They do the english version themselves, which is why sometimes its not that good. Basically there is no english translator/checker/whatever, like there is for the other languages.

But I do find it kind of funny how everyone complains about the grammar and translation and no one actually bothers to edit the pages, as they come out, with better grammar and translation so that at least a good english version of the comic exists somewhere, even if its just on this board. Its very easy to do and probably wouldn't take more than 10 minutes per page.

My primary language isn't english so it doesn't bother me and I already translate the pages to PT-PT for them... But if that wasn't the case and the translation really bothered me I would just do what I suggested.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Rukura » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:24 pm

rereboy wrote:They do the english version themselves, which is why sometimes its not that good. Basically there is no english translator/checker/whatever, like there is for the other languages.

But I do find it kind of funny how everyone complains about the grammar and translation and no one actually bothers to edit the pages, as they come out, with better grammar and translation so that at least a good english version of the comic exists somewhere, even if its just on this board. Its very easy to do and probably wouldn't take more than 10 minutes per page.

My primary language isn't english so it doesn't bother me and I already translate the pages to PT-PT for them... But if that wasn't the case and the translation really bothered me I would just do what I suggested.
English isn't my first language either and it still bothers me, though :oops:

The thing is, the way I see it, while any one of us could easily correct all the grammar and spelling mistakes when posting it on the thread...it wouldn't really change anything. It's still shown on the website, the main and primary source, in its full awkwardness. Where pretty much everyone will see it like that :( (Here we are, showing concern about the fact that the people reading it are too busy figuring out what the dialogue is supposed to be.....Shouldn't the authors be the ones doing that?)
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Saimaroimaru » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:01 pm

Scarz wrote:Oh, this was such a fun page! The only thing that disappoints me is that the Namekians didn't bother to interact with each other. I guess they're to cool for small talk.
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Post by TonyTheTiger » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:53 pm

rereboy wrote:They do the english version themselves, which is why sometimes its not that good. Basically there is no english translator/checker/whatever, like there is for the other languages.

But I do find it kind of funny how everyone complains about the grammar and translation and no one actually bothers to edit the pages, as they come out, with better grammar and translation so that at least a good english version of the comic exists somewhere, even if its just on this board. Its very easy to do and probably wouldn't take more than 10 minutes per page.
I'd do it myself and send it to Salagir if I had reason to believe he'd take it to heart. But doing it just because, with no chance of it replacing the errors on the DBM site, would be pointless. After all, while the grammar is often shoddy it's never unintelligible. Everybody here can already make out exactly what it should be so correcting it just for us wouldn't serve much of a purpose other than telling people what they already know. But correcting it on the main site, the "official" product, would make a difference if only for the sake of Salagir standing behind his work and ensuring it actually is high quality. Especially if they ever sell/distribute print versions at any point.

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Post by Saiga » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:49 am

I'm pretty sure it has been said here that Salagir feels having an English translator to fix up the grammar and dialogue would ruin the "nuances" of the original French dialogue... or something. I really didn't get it the first time I read it so I'm probably repeating it wrong. :lol:
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Post by TonyTheTiger » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:02 am

What's funny is that it doesn't even have to be a translator. Let Salagir keep writing the English script. All he needs is a native speaker to clean it up so it doesn't sound like Zero Wing half the time.

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Post by batistabus » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:11 am

Yes, because the nuances are currently being conveyed so well.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dprez » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:19 pm

I love this fan manga. I especially loved the Bardock back story where Freeza was killed by all the Ozarus.

Read it straight through again a few weeks ago after taking like a 4 month break to let some new pages build up. May do the same thing until they finish it. Seams like it'll be ending soon.

One fight I predict is our universe Vegeta vs Cell. We will see ssj3 Vegeta here I think, as this Cell has gotten much, much stronger. After he got that Zenkai, he probably almost killed himself a few more times just for the power boost. What's strange is that a Zenkai is not supposed to happen if you try to kill yourself and come back, but this manga already has not followed the cannon perfectly so w/e. Cell is different from the Saiya-jins anyway.

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Post by mc49399 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:24 pm

dprez wrote:I love this fan manga. I especially loved the Bardock back story where Freeza was killed by all the Ozarus.

Read it straight through again a few weeks ago after taking like a 4 month break to let some new pages build up. May do the same thing until they finish it. Seams like it'll be ending soon.

One fight I predict is our universe Vegeta vs Cell. We will see ssj3 Vegeta here I think, as this Cell has gotten much, much stronger. After he got that Zenkai, he probably almost killed himself a few more times just for the power boost. What's strange is that a Zenkai is not supposed to happen if you try to kill yourself and come back, but this manga already has not followed the cannon perfectly so w/e. Cell is different from the Saiya-jins anyway.
Considering he got the Zenkai from the first time he tried to kill himself, I don't think the rule applies to him.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dprez » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:54 pm

mc49399 wrote:
dprez wrote:I love this fan manga. I especially loved the Bardock back story where Freeza was killed by all the Ozarus.

Read it straight through again a few weeks ago after taking like a 4 month break to let some new pages build up. May do the same thing until they finish it. Seams like it'll be ending soon.

One fight I predict is our universe Vegeta vs Cell. We will see ssj3 Vegeta here I think, as this Cell has gotten much, much stronger. After he got that Zenkai, he probably almost killed himself a few more times just for the power boost. What's strange is that a Zenkai is not supposed to happen if you try to kill yourself and come back, but this manga already has not followed the cannon perfectly so w/e. Cell is different from the Saiya-jins anyway.
Considering he got the Zenkai from the first time he tried to kill himself, I don't think the rule applies to him.
Yea, and I think this sparked a thread over in the in-universe section. Don't know how I didn't connect those dots. He had one before he can have one again. Though this was my initial theory to how he surely got much stronger in DBM, I questioned myself without thinking about it...

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Post by testing223 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:34 am

Perhaps Cell just trained really, really hard.

He's not a human who gets old, so why would he have the same limits on getting stronger with effort? Maybe after he wiped out planet Earth he went and fought Bojack, Broly, Hildegarne, Babidi, etc?
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Post by Saiga » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:43 am

But he has no special way to train... so I don't see how he could get so much stronger from basic training, and it's hard to even picture him doing it.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:43 am

Saiga wrote:But he has no special way to train... so I don't see how he could get so much stronger from basic training, and it's hard to even picture him doing it.
I think he has a pretty unique way to train, one that could truly cause him to push his limits if utilized effectively. He could spawn a couple of Cell Juniors to spar against. Once he gets too strong for them, kill them off and spawn a stronger set with his new power.
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Post by Rukura » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:11 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I think he has a pretty unique way to train, one that could truly cause him to push his limits if utilized effectively. He could spawn a couple of Cell Juniors to spar against. Once he gets too strong for them, kill them off and spawn a stronger set with his new power.
Probably the only thing he can do too, since everyone that could possibly stand up to him was killed (we even got a crappy "special" chapter to prove that one lol)
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