Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by CaBrPi » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:32 am

Saiga wrote:
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Saiga wrote:But he has no special way to train... so I don't see how he could get so much stronger from basic training, and it's hard to even picture him doing it.
Come on, this is Dragonball, making up ridiculous training is part of the mythos.

He can train by punching out the asteroid belt, headbutting suns or, heck, hunting down the Nameks and Freeza's race and the Demons and fighting them.

You REALLLLY can't imagine anything in this universe?
Why would any of that make him significantly stronger?
What if he fought Dabra in his universe?

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Post by testing223 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:40 am

Saiga wrote:
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Why would any of that make him significantly stronger?
It can if the plot demanded it.

"This supernova is 1000 times more powerful than that of the Earth's sun! If I withstand it, I will gain a massive defense boost!"

*Charges into the exploding star, gains as much defense as the story requires*
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TRL » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:49 am

testing223 wrote:
Saiga wrote:
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Why would any of that make him significantly stronger?
It can if the plot demanded it.

"This supernova is 1000 times more powerful than that of the Earth's sun! If I withstand it, I will gain a massive defense boost!"

*Charges into the exploding star, gains as much defense as the story requires*
Truth.

Or suddenly a previous not discovered powerful villain appears filling the power vacuum of frieza!

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by testing223 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:27 am

TRL wrote:
Truth.

Or suddenly a previous not discovered powerful villain appears filling the power vacuum of Freeza!
Even that's reasonable. Let's say Cell killed off the Z-Warriors and goes looking for challenges.

Bojack, who is now free and space-pirating.
Buu, as his egg could survive the massacre, or maybe it cracked open; it doesn't really matter in this hypothetical.
Broly, who, in this point in Movie canon, has survived the star and is in a Namek space-pod headed for Earth.
Janenba, Tapion, and Hirudegarn are also still out there.
Could even include Meta-Cooler, who would now be free to consume Namek (A good plot point Salagir hasn't used).

So yeah, there's tons of DBZ characters who Cell could seek out and fight.
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Post by Gonstead » Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:12 pm

Man, along with Ginyu-Goku, Meta-Cooler would have been an awesome participant, especially if he fought his former organic self from the Cold Universe.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Senzu_Bean » Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:04 pm

Title page:
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And the page I was talking about:
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For those who cannot read Spanish it basically says the Super Namek called himself XXX to represent his people (I presume the "XXX" name was a temporary name since Salagir stated before he didn't know what name to call the Super Namek) and he traveled through space in search of a way to free himself. He later eliminated the Frost Demons' empire and because of that many worlds/planets tried to help him but in the end no one could. As the last Namek in the universe he hopes to find a solution to free himself otherwise his people will disappear with him. It basically confirms our suspicions that he wants to wish to be many again.

I'm starting to feel sorry for all these characters that are in the tournament for good reasons (Gast Carcolh, Tapion, Trunks, Tenshinhan, etc.) and in the end they probably won't get their wishes and they might get all killed in the process.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:15 pm

Getting the wishes seems to be a passing desire for many of the participants rather than a need. Even the villains seem to want them just because. There don't seem to be any pressing matters that absolutely require a wish to solve for most. The people who I'd imagine want the wishes to correct actual failings would be U12 Trunks, Gast, Tapion, and Bardock. Maaaaybe U16, U19, and the girls of U6 depending on whether or not the automatic ressurrections are put in jeopardy. Although U16 would have their own dragon balls anyway.

It seems like most of the participants are pretty satisfied with their lives and would just use the wishes to make things even better or prevent any of the bad guys from getting them. If the tournament does end up with the wishes being granted (something I'm a little skeptical about given the odds everything will go to hell and back) I wouldn't be surprised if they're distributed to the few people who actually need them regardless of if they win or not.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Rocketman » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:58 pm

XXX? So this is the one Scarz wrote?

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Post by funrush » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:03 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:Pics

For those who cannot read Spanish it basically says the Super Namek called himself XXX to represent his people (I presume the "XXX" name was a temporary name since Salagir stated before he didn't know what name to call the Super Namek) and he traveled through space in search of a way to free himself. He later eliminated the Frost Demons' empire and because of that many worlds/planets tried to help him but in the end no one could. As the last Namek in the universe he hopes to find a solution to free himself otherwise his people will disappear with him. It basically confirms our suspicions that he wants to wish to be many again.

I'm starting to feel sorry for all these characters that are in the tournament for good reasons (Gast Carcolh, Tapion, Trunks, Tenshinhan, etc.) and in the end they probably won't get their wishes and they might get all killed in the process.
Dude, that's cool! It reminds me of an American comic book. Where'd you find those?

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Post by Senzu_Bean » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:59 pm

funrush wrote:Where'd you find those?
It is all over the comments at DBM pages since long ago, at least since the (horrible) Bojack's special.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by The Jackal » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:42 pm

Hmph, plothole - if Gast is after winning the tournament, so he can wish to be un-fused so he isn't the last Namekian, why doesn't he just spawn offspring like King Piccolo, Guru and Cell did?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by CaBrPi » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:11 pm

The Jackal wrote:Hmph, plothole - if Gast is after winning the tournament, so he can wish to be un-fused so he isn't the last Namekian, why doesn't he just spawn offspring like King Piccolo, Guru and Cell did?
Maybe he can't. Piccolo Jr. couldn't and he was made up of three Namekians.

And perhaps he just wants the old Namekians back.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:53 pm

The Jackal wrote:Hmph, plothole - if Gast is after winning the tournament, so he can wish to be un-fused so he isn't the last Namekian, why doesn't he just spawn offspring like King Piccolo, Guru and Cell did?
Well, only Dragons Clansmen can produce offspring, and if they wanted the strongest fighter, one would presume they would use a Warrior Clansmen as a base (Nail?). But I have no idea if that holds up with Salagir's logic, because technically only members of the same clan can merge, so having all the Namekians in one body should be impossible...

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Saiga » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:15 pm

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The Jackal wrote:Hmph, plothole - if Gast is after winning the tournament, so he can wish to be un-fused so he isn't the last Namekian, why doesn't he just spawn offspring like King Piccolo, Guru and Cell did?
Well, only Dragons Clansmen can produce offspring, and if they wanted the strongest fighter, one would presume they would use a Warrior Clansmen as a base (Nail?). But I have no idea if that holds up with Salagir's logic, because technically only members of the same clan can merge, so having all the Namekians in one body should be impossible...

Whatever.
Only members of the same clan can merge? Is that just something from Salagir or is it actually from a guidebook, 'cause Piccolo was able to merge with Nail and God after all.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by testing223 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:53 pm

The Jackal wrote:Hmph, plothole - if Gast is after winning the tournament, so he can wish to be un-fused so he isn't the last Namekian, why doesn't he just spawn offspring like King Piccolo, Guru and Cell did?
Maybe the price of combining all the clans' powers was the loss of the spawning ability.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:29 pm

Saiga wrote:Only members of the same clan can merge? Is that just something from Salagir or is it actually from a guidebook, 'cause Piccolo was able to merge with Nail and God after all.
Why would it be from Salagir? It would prevent his Super Namekian from existing. lol

It's from the Daizenshuu, number 4 specifically.
Powering up through fusion.
Two Namekians can fuse as long as their types aren't different. This fusion is similar to the merging that comes from using the potara, and once fused the two people cannot return to normal. By deciding who will be the base, this determines who will be in control after fusing. The unique trait is that the fused person's power is absorbed, powering up the person who is the base.
Piccolo and Kami's merger seems to be a special case, because they were originally one Namekian. Daimao and Kami were both Dragon Clansmen, but Piccolo reincarnated himself as a Warrior Clansmen. It seems that because it was a reincarnation, and not just a traditional birth, Piccolo retained some of his Dragon Clansmen skills (materializing clothing), but not the important ones (Dragon Balls, laying eggs, etc.).
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by The Jackal » Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:15 am

OK, if that's true with Piccolo not being able to spawn offspring because he's not of the Dragon clan, then how do you explain Cell? He's DNA was taken from Piccolo, yet Cell's able to produce offspring. How can that be?

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Gonstead » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:24 am

The Jackal wrote:OK, if that's true with Piccolo not being able to spawn offspring because he's not of the Dragon clan, then how do you explain Cell? He's DNA was taken from Piccolo, yet Cell's able to produce offspring. How can that be?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Michsi » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:27 am

Was is ever officially stated that Warriors can't produce offsprings? I mean , it's what I believe too but I can't recall if it's been established as rule or it's just a general assumption.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Fox666 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:37 am

From Daizenshuu 4:
Kanzentai wrote:Reproduction
They can lay eggs.

Any member of the Dragon Clan can lay eggs. However, on the current Planet Namek there is a hereditary system, so only the Eldest lays eggs. Normally the number of eggs laid by a single member of the Dragon Clan would be from 10 to 20. In the Eldest's case, he was afraid that their race would go extinct so he laid over a hundred eggs, an exceptional amount.

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An egg produced by Piccolo Daimao. It appears that the eggs lain by Namekians are roughly the same type.

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