Future Trunks at peace

[Piccolo Daimao]

What do you think happened to future Trunks after he saved the world from the Androids and Cell? Presumably, Bobbodi and Boo never appeared, but do you think that he continued training, in case another threat appeared? Was his visit back to the main timeline to tell Goku and the others that he restored peace to his time his last one, or do you believe he made future visits? Do you think he got himself a girlfriend?

[dbgtFO]

He kept in shape, helped restore the world, didn't make future visits, found himself a wife and lived happily ever after. The End.

[Kaboom]

Trunks is a smart and responsible lad. I'm sure he'd keep training since he knows he's the only one left around to protect Earth.

[Jackal puFF]

I bet he feels lonely that he's the only super warrior out there. Maybe he visits Master Roshi and Mr. Popo and hangs with them.

[Gonstead]

He probably visited one last time which would tie in with Bojack Unbound.

Afterwards, he probably just kept on training, got himself a family, helped restore the world and lived out his life in peace.

[Michsi]

I always wondered if him going to Namek to revive is at least Gohan plausible.

[In Brightest Day]

I always wondered if him going to Namek to revive is at least Gohan plausible.

Yeah, this is always seemed like a logical outcome to me. That, and the promise of bringing Gohan back to life could have been an incentive for Dende to come to Earth and become the new guardian. I think Trunks would bring Android #16 into the world as well.

Does anyone agree that after seeing Gohan do it at the Cell-Games, it would have been Trunks' goal to reach Super Saiyan 2? With Kami's place likely being untouched, Trunks using the Room of Spirit and Time to reach SSJ2 in his own timeline makes a lot of sense.


Anyway, this is what would have taken place IMO:

- Trunks returns and destroys the Androids & Cell.
- The world starts to heal.
- Trunks releases Android #16 (No, I didn't get this idea from DBM).
- Trunks & Bulma travel to New Namek. #16 watches over the Earth while they're gone.
- Trunks & Bulma are allowed to gather the Dragonballs and wish Gohan back to life.
- Gohan & Bulma convince Dende to come be the new Guardian of the Earth.
- Trunks, Gohan, Bulma & Dende return to Earth and Dende creates the new Dragonballs.
- Trunks & Gohan enter the Room of Spirit and Time together and at some stage both reach Super Saiyan 2 (probably doesn't happen in one session in there, but eventually).

Trunks, Son Gohan & Android #16 from then on out watch over the Earth as the last remaining Z-Fighters, but never actually come into contact with any serious threats.

"And they lived happily ever after."

[Piccolo Daimao]

In the Cell arc, Goku had to have Kaio locate New Namek before he could teleport there. So how would Trunks get there? And even if they did know where it was, Bulma mentioned that the fastest spaceship her father could build would take something like a thousand years to get (old) Namek.

And Gero's design, programming and whatnot of #16 was difficult enough for Bulma and Dr. Brief (which they even mentioned; Dr. Brief said that they could barely understand it) that they could only repair his head and remove his bomb. Afterwards, #16 refused to shake Goku's hand at the Cell Games, reminding him that he was created to kill him. Even though future Bulma was able to create the time machine, we can't just assume that she'd be able to reprogram #16 into doing what they wanted.

[In Brightest Day]

In the Cell arc, Goku had to have Kaio locate New Namek before he could teleport there. So how would Trunks get there? And even if they did know where it was, Bulma mentioned that the fastest spaceship her father could build would take something like a thousand years to get (old) Namek.

Technology hasn't grown in the 20 something years that they last traveled to Namek? Anyway, it's just a theory. I'm clearly not saying it's fact.

And Gero's design, programming and whatnot of #16 was difficult enough for Bulma and Dr. Brief (which they even mentioned; Dr. Brief said that they could barely understand it) that they could repair his head and remove his bomb. Afterwards, #16 refused to shake Goku's hand at the Cell Games, reminding him that he was created to kill him. Even though future Bulma was able to create the time machine, we can't just assume that she'd be able to reprogram #16 into doing what they wanted.

Two questions:

1). Why would they need to reprogram anything?

2). In the past, when did Bulma & her dad reprogram anything in #16 outside of fixing him and taking out the bomb?


Android #16 doesn't need reprogramming. So what if #16 was a bit of a jerk to Goku? At the end of day, #16 valued life. He abandoned what he was programmed for in order to save the Earth. With Goku dead, #16 wouldn't have any other real purpose than to protect what he tried to in the other timeline.

I get the skepticism behind Trunks & Bulma travelling to Namek, grabbing Dende & wishing back Gohan. But Trunks bringing #16 back into commission is one of the few fan made theories that actually makes a lot of sense.

[Bussani]

Technology hasn't grown in the 20 something years that they last traveled to Namek?

Well, the androids had spent the last 20 years blowing everything up, hadn't they? It might have been hard to have time to design faster ships. But hey, Dr. Brief built Goku one based on his Saiyan pod, so maybe they'd still have the know-how to do it. It's finding New Namek that would be a challenge. Maybe Bulma could soup up the dragon radar to pick up the Namekian balls and navigate to the planet using that? No idea if that would be possible, but it's a thought.

[Rocketman]

He's unable to adjust to the peaceful life and quietly goes insane.

[dprez]

He may pull a Muten-Roshi/Son Goku and find a few disciples to look after the earth when he's gone. Although how anybody besides his own children could come anywhere near his power I have no idea.

He'd probably get married since he is half earthling like Gohan, and would eventually want that peaceful family life more than anything, and train those kids to protect the Earth.

[Saiga]

He's unable to adjust to the peaceful life and quietly goes insane.

And then he kills everyone remaining in the universe.

[Scarz]

He's unable to adjust to the peaceful life and quietly goes insane.

And then he kills everyone remaining in the universe.

How morbidly hilarious.

[Piccolo Daimao]

In the Cell arc, Goku had to have Kaio locate New Namek before he could teleport there. So how would Trunks get there? And even if they did know where it was, Bulma mentioned that the fastest spaceship her father could build would take something like a thousand years to get (old) Namek.

Technology hasn't grown in the 20 something years that they last traveled to Namek? Anyway, it's just a theory. I'm clearly not saying it's fact.

As Bussani said, the Androids had spent the last 20 years blowing everything up, so it may've been hard to have time to design faster ships. And, IIRC, we saw that a big part of Capsule Corporation and its surrounding area had been destroyed. So the Androids could've destroyed a lot of their technology that could've been used to make faster ships.

And Gero's design, programming and whatnot of #16 was difficult enough for Bulma and Dr. Brief (which they even mentioned; Dr. Brief said that they could barely understand it) that they could repair his head and remove his bomb. Afterwards, #16 refused to shake Goku's hand at the Cell Games, reminding him that he was created to kill him. Even though future Bulma was able to create the time machine, we can't just assume that she'd be able to reprogram #16 into doing what they wanted.

Two questions:

1). Why would they need to reprogram anything?

2). In the past, when did Bulma & her dad reprogram anything in #16 outside of fixing him and taking out the bomb?


Android #16 doesn't need reprogramming. So what if #16 was a bit of a jerk to Goku? At the end of day, #16 valued life. He abandoned what he was programmed for in order to save the Earth. With Goku dead, #16 wouldn't have any other real purpose than to protect what he tried to in the other timeline.

I get the skepticism behind Trunks & Bulma travelling to Namek, grabbing Dende & wishing back Gohan. But Trunks bringing #16 back into commission is one of the few fan made theories that actually makes a lot of sense.

#16 doesn't have any obligation towards protecting Earth or anything. With Goku dead, he has no real purpose, so he can do what he wants. But even a programmed Android with a one-track mind can tell that a guy who could destroy the entire universe is dangerous, not to mention that he could get in the way of his objective to kill Goku. But what we know is that even if Trunks did activate #16, who's to say he'd want to help a guy he doesn't know nor has nothing to do with and who wants to revive a bunch of guys he doesn't care about, rather than just hang around with nature like he wants?

I don't think Trunks would even activate #16, since he originally stigmatized all of the Androids due to two of them destroying his world, and he may still be cautious of activating him without Cell there to keep him in check. As in, Cell was the only reason that the Androids didn't continue on their quest to kill Goku. You may say that if he goes berserk, he could just deactivate him with the remote, but they apparently only found blueprints for #17 and #18 and that remote could only be used to deactivate them, not #16 (who's very different from them anyway, so he'd probably have different blueprints and a remote that we can't just assume Trunks would stumble upon). So I doubt Trunks would activate #16 if he didn't have a Plan B for if #16 got out of hand.

You're also basing this on the assumption that #16 even exists in Trunks' timeline. Remember, Trunks didn't know anything about him until he was introduced in the main timeline (where Gohan kills Cell), so assumedly there was no #16 in Trunks' timeline either for Gero to create or for #17 and #18 to activate.

[In Brightest Day]

#16 doesn't have any obligation towards protecting Earth or anything.

If the Cell-Games & his fights against Imperfect/Semi-Perfect Cell are anything to go by, yes he does. Outside of Goku, life is literally the only thing #16 cares about. If theirs a serious threat to the Earth, Android #16 would undoubtedly jump to defend it. Let's not even bother getting into that. We've seen it happen.

With Goku dead, he has no real purpose, so he can do what he wants. But even a programmed Android with a one-track mind can tell that a guy who could destroy the entire universe is dangerous, not to mention that he could get in the way of his objective to kill Goku.

What does Goku have to do with anything? He's dead. #16 didn't really give a shit that Goku was still alive when he was trying to protect Android #18 or when he was going to blow himself up against Perfect Cell. And Trunks can destroy #16 at any time he wants. Trunks knows it, and #16 would know it the instant he came out of his slumber.

But what we know is that even if Trunks did activate #16, who's to say he'd want to help a guy he doesn't know nor has nothing to do with and who wants to revive a bunch of guys he doesn't care about, rather than just hang around with nature like he wants?

I never said #16 would want to hang around with Trunks & the others. Just because he isn't hanging around them 24/7 doesn't really mean anything. He'd still jump in if any serious danger ever came. Just ask Tenshinhan & Chaozu.

I don't think Trunks would even activate #16, since he originally stigmatized all of the Androids due to two of them destroying his world, and he may still be cautious of activating him without Cell there to keep him in check. As in, Cell was the only reason that the Androids didn't continue on their quest to kill Goku.

Again. Goku is dead. He's a complete non-factor.

You may say that if he goes berserk, he could just deactivate him with the remote, but they apparently only found blueprints for #17 and #18 and that remote could only be used to deactivate them, not #16 (who's very different from them anyway, so he'd probably have different blueprints and a remote that we can't just assume Trunks would stumble upon). So I doubt Trunks would activate #16 if he didn't have a Plan B for if #16 got out of hand.

Trunks can destroy Android #16 whenever he wants, so he wouldn't even need a plan B. With that knowledge, as well as the hands-on incite Trunks has into #16's actual personality I think at most Trunks might be a little hesitant, but he knows he can destroy #16 in a heart-beat even on the very unlikely chance he ever tried something.

Why would #16 go berserk anyway? He'd only be threatening the one thing he actually loves. That's a pretty dumb theory, tbh.

You're also basing this on the assumption that #16 even exists in Trunks' timeline. Remember, Trunks didn't know anything about him until he was introduced in the main timeline (where Gohan kills Cell), so assumedly there was no #16 in Trunks' timeline either for Gero to create or for #17 and #18 to activate.

Well yeah, whether #16 even exists in that timeline is an interesting point. There literally had to be a #16, or else Android #17 wouldn't be number #17.

Sure, one could say "Trunks time-jumping created the new Android." But it's just as likely that Trunks going back in time changed it so that the Android's personality drew them to releasing #16. In the future, I don't think the two murdering Android's would have even thought twice about releasing the other Android, personally. From what we know, the future Android's killed Dr. Gero and then went on to kill the Z-Fighters. That would mean the Lab would still be there at least.

[Fox666]

Sure, one could say "Trunks time-jumping created the new Android."

You mean erased two androids, thus changing their names from no.19 and 20 to no.17 and 18!!

[Piccolo Daimao]

#16 doesn't have any obligation towards protecting Earth or anything.

If the Cell-Games & his fights against Imperfect/Semi-Perfect Cell are anything to go by, yes he does. Outside of Goku, life is literally the only thing #16 cares about. If theirs a serious threat to the Earth, Android #16 would undoubtedly jump to defend it. Let's not even bother getting into that. We've seen it happen.

Yes, because he doesn't want Cell to destroy the universe. Him, Goku and the wildlife he cares about would die. But Cell is dead in Trunks' timeline. To him, it may seem as if there's no point in reviving Trunks' friends. He'd probably just want to go and hang around with some birds or something.

With Goku dead, he has no real purpose, so he can do what he wants. But even a programmed Android with a one-track mind can tell that a guy who could destroy the entire universe is dangerous, not to mention that he could get in the way of his objective to kill Goku.

What does Goku have to do with anything? He's dead. #16 didn't really give a shit that Goku was still alive when he was trying to protect Android #18 or when he was going to blow himself up against Perfect Cell. And Trunks can destroy #16 at any time he wants. Trunks knows it, and #16 would know it the instant he came out of his slumber.

I believe Goku could've factored in his decision to protect #18 or when he was going to self-destruct against Cell. But like I said, anyone, bad guy or not, knows that it's bad to let someone as evil and dangerous as that become the strongest being in the universe and ultimately destroy it.

Admittedly, I forgot about Trunks being able to kill #16 with his own power. But Trunks isn't just going to threaten #16 to follow his orders. Even if he did, #16 may very well just allow himself to be killed because he's practically purposeless now.

But what we know is that even if Trunks did activate #16, who's to say he'd want to help a guy he doesn't know nor has nothing to do with and who wants to revive a bunch of guys he doesn't care about, rather than just hang around with nature like he wants?

I never said #16 would want to hang around with Trunks & the others. Just because he isn't hanging around them 24/7 doesn't really mean anything. He'd still jump in if any serious danger ever came. Just ask Tenshinhan & Chaozu.

I didn't say he would hang around with them. He said that he may not want to help a guy he doesn't know nor has nothing to do with and who wants to revive a bunch of guys he doesn't care about, when he could just be off doing his own thing. I know that Trunks wouldn't just hold him hostage at Capsule Corporation or something forcing him to stay at their barbecues, but the fact of the matter is that there's no present danger. Cell is gone and the world is at peace.

I don't think Trunks would even activate #16, since he originally stigmatized all of the Androids due to two of them destroying his world, and he may still be cautious of activating him without Cell there to keep him in check. As in, Cell was the only reason that the Androids didn't continue on their quest to kill Goku.

Again. Goku is dead. He's a complete non-factor.

Yes, Goku is dead. But that doesn't mean that #16 is just going to start "watching over the Earth". But what I'm saying is look at the scene where an injured #16 flies over to Trunks, Vegeta and Kuririn, telling them that he'll fight at the Cell Games and asking if he can be repaired. Trunks acts hostile towards him, saying that they won't help one of Dr. Gero's creations. Even after Kuririn tells him that the Androids aren't that bad, he still seems cynical. This is at a point where Trunks is much stronger than #16 and the main problem was Cell.

You may say that if he goes berserk, he could just deactivate him with the remote, but they apparently only found blueprints for #17 and #18 and that remote could only be used to deactivate them, not #16 (who's very different from them anyway, so he'd probably have different blueprints and a remote that we can't just assume Trunks would stumble upon). So I doubt Trunks would activate #16 if he didn't have a Plan B for if #16 got out of hand.

Trunks can destroy Android #16 whenever he wants, so he wouldn't even need a plan B. With that knowledge, as well as the hands-on incite Trunks has into #16's actual personality I think at most Trunks might be a little hesitant, but he knows he can destroy #16 in a heart-beat even on the very unlikely chance he ever tried something.

Why would #16 go berserk anyway? He'd only be threatening the one thing he actually loves. That's a pretty dumb theory, tbh.

Yeah, as I said, I forgot about Trunks' power. And I wasn't saying that #16 would go berserk. Trunks may think that there's a chance #16 could go berserk. It's a different timeline and, after al he's been through, he's bound to still be a bit skeptical of the Androids.

You're also basing this on the assumption that #16 even exists in Trunks' timeline. Remember, Trunks didn't know anything about him until he was introduced in the main timeline (where Gohan kills Cell), so assumedly there was no #16 in Trunks' timeline either for Gero to create or for #17 and #18 to activate.

Well yeah, whether #16 even exists in that timeline is an interesting point. There literally had to be a #16, or else Android #17 wouldn't be number #17.

Sure, one could say "Trunks time-jumping created the new Android." But it's just as likely that Trunks going back in time changed it so that the Android's personality drew them to releasing #16. In the future, I don't think the two murdering Android's would have even thought twice about releasing the other Android, personally. From what we know, the future Android's killed Dr. Gero and then went on to kill the Z-Fighters. That would mean the Lab would still be there at least.

I think that the Androids in both timelines weren't at all different from each other. The difference was that in the main timeline, they actually had a purpose and didn't even get to Goku before they were absorbed. In Trunks' timeline, Goku was already dead, so they just got bored and started blowing shit up. So I think, if #16 was there, they would've activated him.

Yes, there probably was a #16, but I think, rather than shoving him in a cabinet like in the main timeline, Gero completely scrapped him. In Gero's lab in the main timeline, I don't think we even see cabinets other than #16, #17, #18, #19 and #20's, with the previous Androids' cabinets nowhere to be seen. Obviously, #8 was at Jingle Village, but we don't see the others.

Or maybe (shit theory, but just throwing it out here) the future Androids killed Gero before he could complete #16. So #16 would've still existed, meaning that #17 and #18's numbering make sense, but #16 would've been too primitive or broken to even activate or let hang around with them, so they either 1) activated him, saw how useless he was and deactivated him (meaning Trunks subsequently wouldn't bother with them either), 2) destroyed him or 3) same as 2, but with the entire lab, as there was nothing left for them there.

[Fox666]

Yes, there probably was a #16, but I think, rather than shoving him in a cabinet like in the main timeline, Gero completely scrapped him. In Gero's lab in the main timeline, I don't think we even see cabinets other than #16, #17, #18, #19 and #20's, with the previous Androids' cabinets nowhere to be seen. Obviously, #8 was at Jingle Village, but we don't see the others.

That's possible, considering no.17 and 18 are different from the present time-line. Or perhaps these evil versions of no.17 and 18 had no care about 16 at all?

[In Brightest Day]

Yes, because he doesn't want Cell to destroy the universe. Him, Goku and the wildlife he cares about would die. But Cell is dead in Trunks' timeline. To him, it may seem as if there's no point in reviving Trunks' friends. He'd probably just want to go and hang around with some birds or something.

Oh, okay.

I more meant that if Trunks & Bulma somehow did find a way to get to Namek, Trunks could rely on #16 if someone did come threaten the Earth while they were gone. I don't think they'd be friends and I agree that #16 would likely just hang around with the birds. If Gohan was revived, I think #16 would feel indifferent.

I believe Goku could've factored in his decision to protect #18 or when he was going to self-destruct against Cell. But like I said, anyone, bad guy or not, knows that it's bad to let someone as evil and dangerous as that become the strongest being in the universe and ultimately destroy it.

Exactly, which is why I think that if a serious threat did come to the Earth, it wouldn't matter if Trunks & #16 were friends or not. The both have a common interest, which is peace.

Admittedly, I forgot about Trunks being able to kill #16 with his own power. But Trunks isn't just going to threaten #16 to follow his orders. Even if he did, #16 may very well just allow himself to be killed because he's practically purposeless now.

Same as above. I don't think Trunks would have to force him into anything. Trunks would basically be like "hey, we're going to Namek for a while. Make sure no one tries to destroy the Earth. Kapeesh?" That seems like a more than reasonable favor.

I didn't say he would hang around with them. He said that he may not want to help a guy he doesn't know nor has nothing to do with

Again, I just think it comes down to that common interest thing. They both want peace, and would do anything to keep it.

But what I'm saying is look at the scene where an injured #16 flies over to Trunks, Vegeta and Kuririn, telling them that he'll fight at the Cell Games and asking if he can be repaired. Trunks acts hostile towards him, saying that they won't help one of Dr. Gero's creations. Even after Kuririn tells him that the Androids aren't that bad, he still seems cynical. This is at a point where Trunks is much stronger than #16 and the main problem was Cell.

There might be some skepticism, sure. Ultimately, though, I think after being around #16 enough and seeing what he did at the Cell-Games, that he wouldn't really have too much of an issue releasing him.