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Re: STOP SOPA NOW!

Post by SHINOBI-03 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:14 am

cloud1414 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tD1yaE0 ... ture=share
Well this isnt good.
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Post by thedarkuniter » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:25 am

It's official: with or without SOPA, we're still fucked. :shock:
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Post by Eire » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:27 am

I doubt. Both sides are overreacting.

Fileserve and some video streaming sites finished their rewards program- wise move, that was major bias against MU.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:31 am

SHINOBI-03 wrote:Since when America is the official ruler of the world?!
I think it was since WWII the US has been the "global police" in it's own eyes.

I remember in High School my Government Teacher was pissed at the Iraqi citizens for fighting back against us (I live in the US) and not letting us invade "peacefully". He couldn't understand why they wouldn't let us "help" them, and called them fools... He was also mad that Obama "wanted to end the Iraq war" (which the deadline for our withdrawal was set under Bush's term anyway. Obama wanted to stay in longer despite what many of his supporters will tell you).

Also, a few days ago the US extradited UK citizen Richard O'Dwyer for breaking US copyright laws... outside of the US.

I still haven't heard this on any news network. The British government is apparently upset about this too, and stated that the US broke their end of the treaty and misused their power of extradition.

Why isn't that getting any coverage? If they wanted those powers with SOPA, and couldn't do it without, then why do they need SOPA in the first place? Same goes for MegaUpload, and speaking of which, the guy in the previously posted video is definitely over-exaggerating, but I would not be surprised at all if there were at least several arrests of people who had downloaded/uploaded on that site.
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Re: STOP SOPA NOW!

Post by samuraix123 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:05 am

Folks need to stop worrying about it. The courts would be backed up for years trying to prosecute anyone & everyone who downloaded from MegaUpload. The Main reason why MegaUpload was shut down was because it was charging people with a Premium account to download the Pirated content at a faster rate. Think about it, Lets say that the Government said ''Okay were going to pull in 25% of all MegaUpload users and charge them a fine of 150thousand dollars'' Now I'm pretty sure no-one can pull out that kinda money at once. So they say ''Fine We're lowering the price'' but you can't pay that either, ''Okay Jail time'' Do people really believe the Government will start imprisoning folks like us just because we downloaded some Anime? No. The prisons would start over flowing. They're looking for the Big people who upload terror-bytes after terror-bytes of Pirated content.
Besides has there even been 1 news report minus the British person being sent over here? sound's like that Mike Mozart guy in the video above is Over exaggerating.
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Re: STOP SOPA NOW!

Post by Bussani » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:10 am

samuraix123 wrote:Besides has there even been 1 news report minus the British person being sent over here?
He's the first, I think, but it does set a frightening precedence.
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Re: STOP SOPA NOW!

Post by samuraix123 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:15 am

Yes it is scary but ''WHY'' is he being sent over here? That's the question I refuse to believe that he downloaded a hanna montana song and the US is getting him for illegal activity. It has to be something big if they're going to extradite him here. Because if It wasn't they're wasting too much money.
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Post by Gonstead » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:20 am

cloud1414 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tD1yaE0 ... ture=share
Well this isn't good.
This is full of complete bull***. This is a ploy merely to attract attention to his videos.

Realize that no government has the man-power, the will or the time to prosecute every single person who used a site like Megaupload. Think about the logistics of such an operation, and common sense will tell you that it's simply not feasible.

They are only looking to prosecute the people at the top of these sites, as they are simply attempting to stop the piracy at the source.

Don't fall for this crap.
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Re: STOP SOPA NOW!

Post by Saiga » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:47 am

samuraix123 wrote:Yes it is scary but ''WHY'' is he being sent over here? That's the question I refuse to believe that he downloaded a hanna montana song and the US is getting him for illegal activity. It has to be something big if they're going to extradite him here. Because if It wasn't they're wasting too much money.
He created a site listing where movies could be downloaded from, which isn't illegal in his country but illegal in the US.
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Post by SHINOBI-03 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:48 am

Saiga wrote:
samuraix123 wrote:Yes it is scary but ''WHY'' is he being sent over here? That's the question I refuse to believe that he downloaded a hanna montana song and the US is getting him for illegal activity. It has to be something big if they're going to extradite him here. Because if It wasn't they're wasting too much money.
He created a site listing where movies could be downloaded from, which isn't illegal in his country but illegal in the US.
If so, then why didn't they just ban the access to his site from the US instead of all this?

This is what we get when we try to access an illegal site:

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Post by samuraix123 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:52 am

SHINOBI-03 wrote:
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samuraix123 wrote:Yes it is scary but ''WHY'' is he being sent over here? That's the question I refuse to believe that he downloaded a hanna montana song and the US is getting him for illegal activity. It has to be something big if they're going to extradite him here. Because if It wasn't they're wasting too much money.
He created a site listing where movies could be downloaded from, which isn't illegal in his country but illegal in the US.
If so, then why didn't they just ban the access to his site from the US instead of all this?
Precisely. Also how are they making an example out of him by bringing him here? If anything I believe they are using him as a fear tactic to show up-loaders and downloaders ''look if you do that this is what will happen'' I believe there is more to this story than what's being discussed
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Post by DBZ Mick » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:58 am

He does a good job at it...
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Post by Bejiita » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:30 pm

People nowadays are even skeptical about what the news reports, let alone what this cunt's yapping on about. Honestly, just look at the way his video is portrayed, it's clear he's intentionally attempting to scare the living daylights out of dim-wits. He's smiling, he's mocking UK politicians, he must think he's the dog's bollocks. I hope he doesn't think he's scary...

Just consider the Gary McKinnon case and how much hassle it took for America to prosecute him and still haven't fully succeeded. This is a man hacked into NASA, and this guy on youtube's assuming the UK will just start deporting people for downloading/uploading movies etc...he needs to get hit by a bullet train or something.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:55 pm

cloud1414 wrote:We had 13 million people protesting Sopa and Pipa, it will never pass.
I hope so since the bill could come back since that certain parties will keep trying to get passed until they do and if they don't they still keep trying to get them passed. I see some people saying that 13 million people won't be enough to stop it since we are just ants and no faces to the White House :roll: .
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Post by Gonstead » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:15 pm

Raithos wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/21/techn ... .html?_r=1

sopa is dead.

for now.
Already been discussed 2 pages back.
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Re: STOP SOPA NOW!

Post by samuraix123 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:49 pm

People need to vote these assholes that's been in the congress and senate for 40 or 50 years out! these folks don't even know how to operate a computer and they are deciding what we should do/say on here.
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Re: STOP SOPA NOW!

Post by Bussani » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:06 pm

SHINOBI-03 wrote:If so, then why didn't they just ban the access to his site from the US instead of all this?
Isn't that basically what SOPA wanted to be able to do? Maybe a better written version could have managed it without SOPA's problems, but...it's tricky.
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Re: STOP SOPA NOW!

Post by Silver Sinspawn » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:34 pm

Raithos wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/21/techn ... .html?_r=1

sopa is dead.

for now.
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Post by SHINOBI-03 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:42 am

Bussani wrote:
SHINOBI-03 wrote:If so, then why didn't they just ban the access to his site from the US instead of all this?
Isn't that basically what SOPA wanted to be able to do? Maybe a better written version could have managed it without SOPA's problems, but...it's tricky.
But you can still visit the sites from outside the US. The same way YouTube bans access to certain videos in regions and allows in others.
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