The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Fox666 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:14 pm

Appule probably could handle the three in a fight, however he wouldn't survive the Kikoho.

I had say Appule is close to 3,000

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A low-level warrior, his battle power is below that of an ordinary Namekian. Members of his race are common throughout the organization.
That doesn't make much sense. As far the manga goes, Appule is seen mocking the warrior-type namekians with battle power of 1,000 which should already be below the average namekian.

That may be loosely based on Zarbon warning him to not attack a village on his own in case there are strong namekians. However according to Daizenshuu 4 there was a total of 15 warrior-type namekians in the planet, with at least 2 per village, thus Zarbon warning is prudent even if Appule is around 3,000.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:36 pm

If Appule is around 3,000 I'd say he could survive a Kikoho. Nappa at 4,000 didn't suffer any damage from it.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:58 pm

Saiga wrote:If Appule is around 3,000 I'd say he could survive a Kikoho. Nappa at 4,000 didn't suffer any damage from it.
Tenshinhan was near death when he fired it at Nappa.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by hleV » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:34 am

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Saiga wrote:If Appule is around 3,000 I'd say he could survive a Kikoho. Nappa at 4,000 didn't suffer any damage from it.
Tenshinhan was near death when he fired it at Nappa.
Because he lost an arm?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Fox666 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:02 am

Saiga wrote:If Appule is around 3,000 I'd say he could survive a Kikoho. Nappa at 4,000 didn't suffer any damage from it.
Apparently not even at 8,000 you could take down Nappa, so I guess you can't compare to him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:41 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:Appule vs. Tenshinhan, Kuririn & Yamcha.

The Earthlings battle powers are all at where they were when they battled Vegeta, Nappa & the Cultivars.
Judging by Kuririn saying that all of Freeza's crew (when he and Gohan first felt them flying by) all had "really strong, amazing ki", but that they laughed off the Namekians' suppressed battle powers of 1,000 and were defeated by their full powers of 3,000, I'd place Appule at 2,000.

I don't believe Appule is anywhere near 3,000. Just because he happened to last out longer than the others against the Namekians doesn't mean that he can hold his own against them. All that panel shows is a Namekian about to launch a punch at Appule. I'd say, if Muuri hadn't interrupted and destroyed the scouters, Appule would've been finished.

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Zarbon: “You look that way. If you find a village, don’t do anything--just come tell me! If there are strong Namekians there, you won’t be able to handle them! In any case, meet me back at the ship in three hours.”
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I think that Tenshinhan, Kuririn and Yamcha, with the advantage of numbers and generally having better skill and strategy, would defeat him.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Fox666 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:00 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:All that panel shows is a Namekian about to launch a punch at Appule. I'd say, if Muuri hadn't interrupted and destroyed the scouters, Appule would've been finished.
Look closely, the namekian is trying to pull Appule by the collar but Appule is holding his hand, and apparently both of them are about to punch each other.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:17 pm

...So? That doesn't mean that Appule can hold his own against him. I seriously doubt Toriyama had any intentions of showing us that Appule was stronger than his fellow henchmen and able to fight evenly with a Namekian, when the entire scene is supposed to show us that Freeza's goons were getting slaughtered by the Namekians. Appule was apparently left alive because Toriyama needed him to tell Freeza that Vegeta had destroyed a village and then, later, to be killed by Vegeta after unexpectedly recovering from his injuries so quickly.

I think you're over-analyzing it.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Fox666 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:21 pm

I suppose it doesn't necessarily means he can fight with the namekians, but I don't see why think otherwise. Appule certainly stand apart from the rest of Freeza followers.

I am not sure how much Toriyama needed him, since the majority of fans probably don't remember him.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:28 pm

Fox666 wrote:I suppose it doesn't necessarily means he can fight with the namekians, but I don't see why think otherwise. Appule certainly stand apart from the rest of Freeza followers.

I am not sure how much Toriyama needed him, since the majority of fans probably don't remember him.
Appule isn't treated as anything other than a low-level goon, not to mention Zarbon telling him that he won't be able to handle strong Namekians. He's probably referring to when he saw him and the rest of them getting wrecked by those three young Namekians. Appule was just lucky, that's all.

I don't think Toriyama left him alive to show us that he was strong, because he wasn't. Maybe, like I said, it's because he needed someone to discover and relate back to Freeza that Vegeta had destroyed a village (and subsequently, picked up a Dragon Ball) that they hadn't gotten to yet. Or using him as dramatic fodder or something for when Vegeta unexpectedly recovered from his injuries so quickly. Either way, it's not important enough to over-analyze and claim that Appule is, for some strange reason, stronger than his comrades and can hold his own against the Namekians.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Fox666 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:37 pm

But 3,000 isn't strong anymore at this point, is it?

Zarbon warning makes sense even if he was equal to the namekians, against just one of these namekians Appule would have only 50% of survival chance in the best scenario. Of course all namekians villages have more than just one warrior-type according to Daizenshuu 4...

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:44 pm

Fox666 wrote:But 3,000 isn't strong anymore at this point, is it?

Zarbon warning makes sense even if he was equal to the namekians, against just one of these namekians Appule would have only 50% of survival chance in the best scenario. Of course all namekians villages have more than just one warrior-type according to Daizenshuu 4...
Technically, it is. It's stronger than the rest of his comrades, and much stronger than Gohan and Kuririn.

But whatever. It doesn't really matter.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:09 pm

Well, there are seemingly differing opinions on the Appule-Earthlings battle. How about...

Piccolo from the Saiyan arc vs. Appule.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:38 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:Well, there are seemingly differing opinions on the Appule-Earthlings battle. How about...

Piccolo from the Saiyan arc vs. Appule.
Hey, a fight Piccolo can win! :lol:

His official battle power given for this period is 3,500 and although people speculate that may be his power level while firing that Makankosappo-esque blast, he's still likely a lot higher than Tenshinhan at 1,830 and as such probably above Appule as well. I think he takes this.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Fox666 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:03 pm

Appule wouldn't stand a chance against someone with 3,500.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:09 pm

Appule loses this fight as well.
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Post by Silkman3003 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:38 pm

Dead Ssj3 Goku vs Kidbuu vs Ssj Gotenks(Post Rosat)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Fox666 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:55 pm

I go with Goku. While everyone was surprised by Gotenks, they weren't flabbergasted like they did when Goku transformed in Super Saiyan 3.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:00 pm

Super Saiyan 3 Goku can take out Boo with considerable effort. Gotenks ends up as collateral damage from the fury of their battle.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:36 pm

Super Saiyan Gotenks would create some Kamikaze Ghosts and start launching them while the other two are fighting. Since both are unaware (then again, Vegito did know about the attack, but that might've been the Vegeta part) of the attack, I could see both of them attacking it and taking great damage in the process. From that point, I think Gotenks would be able to finish either with a Kame-Hame-Ha.

If he doesn't use that attack, I still see him being the strongest of all of them, and since Goku and Kid Boo working as a team is highly unlikely, I just can't see them doing anything effective here. Kid Boo would need to blow the planet up to have a chance here.
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