What Would You Have Added/Changed?

[Perfect]

Again, considering Goku and Vegeta have made worse decisions than Gohan and the others combined, I don't see where you're coming from. He's plenty experienced. The SSJ2 form is what plagued his mind with torturing Cell for tormenting him, similar to Goku's first transformation and letting Freeza power up, as stated beforehand.

[Scarz]

I would've added Lunch in the Z mangas (not just the anime). I wouldn't even care if she didn't hook up with Tenshinhan. As long as she was there in the background I would've been super happy.

Oh and for the sake of having it, more gag nudity.The lack of breasts and/or balls in Z was disappointing.

[Attitudefan]

They never went far with Tenshinhan in DBZ. They should have. He's my favourite. I made a manga at school, in class (when I should have been working), that had Vegeta vs Ten about this exact same thing. (I drew it all with a mouse and it looks damn good for paint)

You should post it in the Fan-Created Works section if you still have it.

I will. I guess I'll create a Deviantart profile and link it from there.

[Mystic Gohan]

This is Gohan we're talking about. He's been battling aliens on other planets for years, he has experience.

He was on namek for 6 days or so....He fought vegeta for like 5 minutes. He didnt fight the androids. He fought raditz for 5 seconds. Lots of experience.

[Perfect]

He trained with Piccolo for almost a year in the middle of nowhere, fending for himself. He fought both Nappa and Vegeta as a result of that training. The battle experience, especially for when he had to go head to head with Vegeta was definitely worth something. He then y'know he went to Namek for awhile, showed some spunk and made smarter decisions than Goku and Vegeta combined, like y'know devising that plan to distract Freeza so he'd die from the planetary explosion. Then there was that time on Earth after, with that whole Garlic Jr. part which was filler, but t'was experience none the less. Then we had that whole Room of Spirit and Time training session which lasted a year. Then we had Gohan fight Cell quite well and level headed for a good portion until Cell got pissed off and beat him into the ground. Gohan became torn, knowing he'd be controlled by an undesirable amount of rage if he transformed. However, there's also a flip side to this as well; Gohan didn't know how to access that power. He was afraid of being unable to access it while all the more at the time being afraid of the consequences. The only way inexperience can play a role here is if we're to say Gohan was inexperienced with the SSJ2 form, like Goku was with his SSJ transformation at first.

[Monkey D Goku]

I would have added more Gohan goes to high school mini series I found it quite interesting with Gohan trying to keep his powers a secret. Maybe also a Erasa vs Videl rivalry for Gohan.

[Monkey D Goku]

I would've added Lunch in the Z mangas (not just the anime). I wouldn't even care if she didn't hook up with Tenshinhan. As long as she was there in the background I would've been super happy.

Oh and for the sake of having it, more gag nudity.The lack of breasts and/or balls in Z was disappointing.

Thank god for Master Roshi and fillers lol this guy even tried to get 18's boobs.

[Kuririn Of Orin]

Oh and for the sake of having it, more gag nudity.The lack of breasts and/or balls in Z was disappointing.

I couldn't agree more with that. They went for a more serious hardcore action sci-fi thing with DBZ, and it was rare to have scene with that type of humor... and usually it was filler. One of my favorite things about the original DB was that gaggy, dirty humor that went along with it.

[NzK]

Anyway, Gohan being the hero at the end of Buu arc would have been cool. Making it so Piccolo & the Earthlings aren't so irrelevant in the later arcs would certainly be a priority too.

Yeah, the Boo arc seems like The Saiyan Show more than anything, which I thought was a shame. Dragon Ball had such a nice variety of characters early on, all hailing from vastly different backgrounds. It added so much depth to the series. Then these characters become irrelevant in the face of escalating power and ability shown by the later villains, and only the saiyans can really match them. Piccolo has his moments against Freeza and Cell, but that's about it.

The only way inexperience can play a role here is if we're to say Gohan was inexperienced with the SSJ2 form, like Goku was with his SSJ transformation at first.

This reminds me of what Vegeta says after Krillin suggests wounding Gohan so that he can receive the zenkai. Vegeta comments that although Gohan has a great deal of power, his inexperience with combat would ultimately be his downfall against Freeza. Having said that, Vegeta probably made that up so that he could receive the nice power up instead of his rival's son.

Just my own interpretation, but I always got the impression that Gohan let power go to his head too much. Sure, he's not perfect, and it's a flaw that is arguably necessary for someone like him to have. Unlike his dad, he didn't spend his youth under the watch of the best martial arts mentors you could possibly want, nor did he compete in three Tenkaichi Budokai tournaments against worthy opponents. He also never played the hand of the hero until the Cell Games. So when he comes up against Boo, it's only his second time dominating the villain. So in that regard, there is a degree of inexperience.

[Michsi]

I would have like more background info on a lot of things. The saiyans and what they were and what they did, especially before comming to planet Plant, the namekians before that disaster, Kami's life and what caused him to harbor hatred that would lead to Piccolo's existance etc . Anything that would make that universe seem bigger and add more depth to it.

Other than that, I would have liked some non-battle related chapters (or omakes) featuring funny stories about the characters.

[Kuririn Of Orin]

I would have like more background info on a lot of things. The saiyans and what they were and what they did, especially before comming to planet Plant, the namekians before that disaster, Kami's life and what caused him to harbor hatred that would lead to Piccolo's existance etc . Anything that would make that universe seem bigger and add more depth to it.

Heheh I agree, perhaps they might make some more OVAs that will cover those subjects.

Other than that, I would have liked some non-battle related chapters (or omakes) featuring funny stories about the characters.

Definitely.

Yeah, the Boo arc seems like The Saiyan Show more than anything, which I thought was a shame. Dragon Ball had such a nice variety of characters early on, all hailing from vastly different backgrounds. It added so much depth to the series. Then these characters become irrelevant in the face of escalating power and ability shown by the later villains, and only the saiyans can really match them. Piccolo has his moments against Freeza and Cell, but that's about it.

It was worse in GT, the only characters that got any screen time really were Saiyans, and even then it was all Goku, Goku and more Goku. Tien And Yamcha both only got like 15 seconds of screen time if you add it up. The only non Saiyan who did anything important was Piccolo really.

[Kiddo626]

I'd have liked more development with Goten and Trunks. Seriously, they had so much potential as characters, only for them to fizzle out in motivation at the end. Sheesh, what a wasted opportunity!

[Eire]

I would have like more background info on a lot of things. The saiyans and what they were and what they did, especially before comming to planet Plant, the namekians before that disaster, Kami's life and what caused him to harbor hatred that would lead to Piccolo's existance etc . Anything that would make that universe seem bigger and add more depth to it.

Heheh I agree, perhaps they might make some more OVAs that will cover those subjects.

The only thing about Sayians' background we got from OVA was the fact that they have females. All specials had a lot of potential, but instead used it for pure fight.

[Saiga]

I'd have liked more development with Goten and Trunks. Seriously, they had so much potential as characters, only for them to fizzle out in motivation at the end. Sheesh, what a wasted opportunity!

I'd like this a whole lot more than putting the limelight on the humans, that's for sure.

[SSJ YUSUKE]

I'd have liked to see more filler about the 3 year training period, perhaps have an episode for each character developing them before the androids arrive.
I would have liked to see more development between the relationship of Piccolo and Kami before they merged.

Also the I preferred Cell in his first form, he looked creepy and scary and the whole mystery element about the strange time machine and the random clothes in Ginger Town was the high light of the saga for me, I think this element of the saga could of been retained for much longer with some mysterious monster wondering around from town to town absorbing people with the Z senshi going on a wild goose chase while this thing gets stronger and stronger. This would have been better then Cell just going through different transformations getting stronger, just like all the other dragon ball cliches.

Also I would liked to have seen the humans have a proper role in the Cell saga like Kurririen in the Freeza saga and Piccolo should never have been as useless as he was in the Buu saga.
It would have been nice in the anime, during the 10 day period before the Cell games if they made an episode to develop the character of android 16 because all we know about him is that he is a big android who loves nature and then dies, surely there must be more to him.

The High School part of the Buu saga should have been longer and should have focused on the gag elements of the series.
When I first watched the Buu saga years ago when I was like 12 I thought that Dabura looked so awesome and for a time I speculated that at some point before Majin Buu was summoned he would betray Babidi and use Majin Buu for his own plans I mean his the king of the Makai and he was relegated to begin a henchmen, on par with Appule.
Also I think that the whole going beyond super Saiyan thing was ridiculous, there should have only been one form of super Saiyan with our heroes having to find more creative ways and techniques of defeating villians instead of going through different levels of super Saiyan and thus spawning countless terrible fan fiction.

[Turtle bits]

^ I couldnt agree with that more, concerning Super saiyans. But to be fair, i always saw SS2 as just a natural progression of 1, as it was hinted at, a perfection of the super saiyan form, yet, the whole ”new form” mechanic was used a lot elswhere too,

hence cell and frieza, constantly changing and 1up'ing the heroes, who, in return, had to gain new forms too..

But in the frieza saga, goku had just learned new techniques, kaioken, spirit bomb, he didnt use them to beat frieza, but they were important.

Really as for the horrible fan stuff, i think its thanks mostly due to SS3, and everything about GT.


As for other stuff, I saw a thread here about goku possibly become elderly like roshi and teaching pupils like his old master, i REALLLLLY wish the series ended like that. A small one shot manga about him and two students would be the perfect cap to the franchise to me.

I also agree concerning lunch, she was so prevalent in DB then she makes just a short cameo in the end, a few pages putting her future to rest would have sufficed.

[Perfect]

it's only his second time dominating the villain. So in that regard, there is a degree of inexperience.

Second time with the main main main villain, but that's irrelevant towards the original point.

[Gaffer Tape]

I would have liked Lunch to stick around had she ever been made relevant in the first place. Even when she was there, she wasn't much of a character. She was just a gimmick: she sneezed and got violent. Hilarity ensues. But it was obvious that Toriyama had run out of things for her to do even before her first arc came to a close, and then she didn't really do anything else until she finally disappeared. Just like a lot of other characters, she could and should have been handled better. But to be honest, she was so underused and so not a character to begin with that I really didn't miss her when she was gone.

[Fionordequester]

In contrast to two of the users here, I would've gotten rid of any dirty humor involving nudity, or fanservice, especially regarding women.

I always disliked the idea of humor like this because it encourages an attitude toward sex that I always believed to be unhealthy, that is the idea that porn or anything else there for the sake of turning you on is not unhealthy in any way. I believe it makes it so that the sexual urges that burn at so many people are even worse and plague you even more constantly than it does already, and also weakens your willpower and ability to maintain control over your feelings...

Even disregarding that, I always found Roshi's behavior in some of the Anime filler to be really creepy. The only reason it's funny is because the women he grabs at are strong, fiery women who beat him up for it, but just imagine if it was someone more timid he was acting that way towards? And while we're on that subject, I also dislike how much the Anime seems to play up the absolute worst characteristics of the side characters. We never see Bulma consider abandoning her friends on Namek for example.

But that's just my opinion. Also, I would've removed the more ridiculous gag elements from Gotenk's fight with Super Buu, given that the time for gags and humor is NOT immediately after the villain murders most of the last few people that the hero loves, including Chi Chi and Bulma.

Finally, I would've had Goku and Vegeta not be so idiotic in crushing the Potara Earrings, and instead would have it where they get destroyed either by accident, or by Majin Buu identifying them and destroying them.

[Hellspawn28]

I would have Freeza died after his fight with Goku and had King Cold have a major role. I always like King Cold and I never like that he had a small role.