The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Michsi]

Even with my modest knowledge of GT, I'm prettysure she is not a fighter. She probably wouldn't even be able to throw a proper punch. So even if she did have some power, I seriously doubt she could make good use of it, much less against Goku.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Bra is half saiyan.

Oh yeah, she is. I must've been thinking of Pan. I always group those two together.

If I sound like a killjoy...well, so be it.

Well, if you promise to cut back on being a killjoy, then I promise to provide serious Vegetto-related answers where and when applicable (because sometimes, 'Vegetto > everyone' really just IS the best answer).

That's a deal, my friend!

But yeah, I understand that sometimes, I take things a little too seriously and act like a bit of a buzzkill.

If not that, then I guess Baby was just like, "Fuck it, I may as well take her power along with the rest of them", rather than leaving it to waste (however little it may've been). I suppose you could compare it to #20 absorbing Yamcha's ki and later wanting to absorb everyone else's (including the Earthlings) to overpower Vegeta.

Now see, there you go! THAT is a practical and reasonable answer. "He's taking her energy because she's there, and at the very least has way more to give than the average human. Every little bit counts." It's sure a better answer than, "HAX! FREE HAX FOR EVERYONE!"

Thanks. I guess at least some things in GT can be worked into making some sense without being a stretch.

[Saiga]

Vegetto jokes completely killed my interest in him. I'm not even kidding.

Anyway, SS3 Goku definitely defeats GT Bra for two reasons:

1. Either there isn't any Toei hax, and therefore Bra is fucked.

2. There is Toei hax, which makes SS3 Goku stronger than Vegetto was and therefore Bra is fucked.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I think Goku would finish Bra with a mere pluck. I just don't see her doing anything here.

Got one: Super Saiyan Vegeta (Boo saga) Vs Full-Power Cell

I never really thought about this one. Think Vegeta needs Super Saiyan 2 to compete with this Cell?

[Piccolo Daimao]

Super Saiyan Vegeta (Boo saga) Vs Full-Power Cell
Think Vegeta needs Super Saiyan 2 to compete with this Cell?

I don't think Vegeta, before Bobbodi's power-up, was that much stronger than Gohan at the Cell Games. I think he'd put up a decent fight, but ultimately lose because of Cell's regeneration.

So yes, he would need SS2 to defeat him.

[Kaboom]

Got one: Super Saiyan Vegeta (Boo saga) Vs Full-Power Cell
I never really thought about this one. Think Vegeta needs Super Saiyan 2 to compete with this Cell?

I think Perfect Cell at full power was more or less smack-dab between Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 Gohan. So if Vegeta has overall just about caught up to Gohan's power from back then... yeah, he'd still need Super Saiyan 2 to do the job. After his boost from Bobbidi he'd be able to put up a great fight with just Super Saiyan, but still need Super Saiyan 2 to win, and it would become very easy.

Cell (full power) - 400

Gohan / Vegeta - 5
Super Saiyan - 250
Super Saiyan 2 - 500
(Angry SSj2 Gohan - 600)

Vegeta (Majin) - 7
Super Saiyan - 350
Super Saiyan 2 - 700

[Saiga]

Considering that he has been training himself extremely hard for seven years, I have Super Saiyan Vegeta considerably higher than Full Power Cell. Not as high as a non-enraged Super Saiyan 2 Gohan, but still more than enough to handle Full Power Cell.

[Fox666]

I think Goku would finish Bra with a mere pluck. I just don't see her doing anything here.

Got one: Super Saiyan Vegeta (Boo saga) Vs Full-Power Cell

I never really thought about this one. Think Vegeta needs Super Saiyan 2 to compete with this Cell?

Supposedly Dabra is about as strong as Cell, and Vegeta was bored by seeing his fight with Gohan, so...

[Mystic Gohan]

I think Goku would finish Bra with a mere pluck. I just don't see her doing anything here.

Got one: Super Saiyan Vegeta (Boo saga) Vs Full-Power Cell

I never really thought about this one. Think Vegeta needs Super Saiyan 2 to compete with this Cell?

Supposedly Dabra is about as strong as Cell, and Vegeta was bored by seeing his fight with Gohan, so...

Most likely hadssj2 up his sleeve.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

GT Trunks vs Kid Trunks
They can both go SSJ.

[Mystic Gohan]

You know i usually don't bother debating gt, but ill take a stab at it. Base trunks got a kick on omega shenron. He beats kid trunks...

[Kaboom]

GT Trunks vs Kid Trunks
They can both go SSJ.

Trunks seems like more the kind to train for fun in his own spare time than Goten, so he's likely gotten at least moderately stronger in all those years. Besides, just by virtue of being older, he's going to be a less naive and more skilled fighter than his younger self. GT Trunks wins.

[Mystic Gohan]

GT Trunks vs Kid Trunks
They can both go SSJ.

Trunks seems like more the kind to train for fun in his own spare time than Goten, so he's likely gotten at least moderately stronger in all those years. Besides, just by virtue of being older, he's going to be a less naive and more skilled fighter than his younger self. GT Trunks wins.

Its cause he can't get girls like goten.

[Rocketman]

I mentioned it in the chat, but it does make an odd sort of sense that Bra's ki would power up her father's body out of proportion to its 'actual' amount.

[Kid Buu]

That fact that Base Bra (GT) Vs Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Majin Boo arc) is even debatable makes me lose even more "interest" I had in GT.

[Kaboom]

That fact that Base Bra (GT) Vs Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Majin Boo arc) is even debatable makes me lose even more "interest" I had in GT.

Yeah, welcome to my world.

[In Brightest Day]

Super Saiyan 3 Goku (28th Budokai) vs. Super Buu.

[Saiga]

Super Boo destroys Goku. I really doubt he'd improve so much even in 10 years. Plus there's still the drawbacks to SS3, unless you believe he was able to overcome those.

[Michsi]

While I do think there is a limit to how much more powerful they can get, including Goku, I doubt he wouldn't have tried to improve the SSJ3 form now that he knows about the power drain. Ten years is a long time but then again it was also peace time.

Franly, no, I don't think Goku could win this one, SSJ 3 or not.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Super Boo wins. I thought the opposite at one point.