Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by UnbiasedDBZfan » Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:39 pm

How about John Cena(Pre Unforgiven 2007) vs GT Goku
They're both 'haxed' enough and they both are overated in power and abilities(contradicted myself)) Who wins?
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Perfect » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:47 pm

Are you serious? GT Goku's insanely over powered, he'd blow him up with the snap of his fingers.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by paperbowser » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:03 pm

UnbiasedDBZfan wrote:How about John Cena(Pre Unforgiven 2007) vs GT Goku
They're both 'haxed' enough and they both are overated in power and abilities(contradicted myself)) Who wins?
You're interested in the outcome of somebody that's real and competes in a non-competitive sport versus a fictional character with the force to annihilate a planet? The only thing John Cena has to show for in terms of fighting is staged. You can't say the same about Dragon Ball, because in the real world John Cena's just pretending, and in the "Dragon Ball Universe" Goku isn't.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:12 pm

Gokuu would blow away John Cena with a mere flexing of his wrist.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by mysticboy » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:16 pm

:lol:

People are taking this serious...

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by TripleRach » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:56 pm

paperbowser wrote:You're interested in the outcome of somebody that's real and competes in a non-competitive sport versus a fictional character with the force to annihilate a planet? The only thing John Cena has to show for in terms of fighting is staged. You can't say the same about Dragon Ball, because in the real world John Cena's just pretending, and in the "Dragon Ball Universe" Goku isn't.
For any of it to make sense, you would have to distinguish John Cena the wrestling character from the real life person that plays the character.

Cena the character is portrayed as someone unbeatable, but only against other normal people, because it's not like wrestlers have superpowers (well, most don't). He also gets serious injuries all the time that keep him out of action for months. Meanwhile, Gokuu at the very beginning could shrug off bullets, throw cars, and smash bricks with one finger.
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The thread is supposed to be serious, for the most part. It's not an open arena for people to troll each other with ridiculous scenarios.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by mysticboy » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:39 pm

TripleRach wrote:The thread is supposed to be serious, for the most part. It's not an open arena for people to troll each other with ridiculous scenarios.
Of course, the thread itself is serious, but a few joke fights here and there can never hurt anyone.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Perfect » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:29 pm

Murasaki is a real ninja, he'd win by the sheer amount of ninja-like ninja skills he possesses.
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Post by dbgtFO » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:34 am

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dario03 wrote:DBZ isn't even consistent in its own universe. I always thought the whole causing mass destruction from powering up was more of a not fully mastered ones power or just showing off kind of thing. Notice how Vegeta powering up in the saiyan arc did more than Gohan powering up when he fought super buu.
I suppose that's a problem with the contant increases in powe. From time to time Toriyama need to create new creative ways to show how powerfull someone is, but since there isn't much more than making the place shake and breaking the floor, it gets a little repetitive and unconvincing. :roll:
I agree. Furthermore I think AT was pretty limited by his medium, making power feats in battles hard to fit in with only 13-15 pages a week, while still going at a steady pace.
It's much easier in the anime of course.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Silkman3003 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:14 pm

Nappa vs The thing
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by dbgtFO » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:19 pm

I don't know a thing about The Thing, so I'm just going to go with Nappa.

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Heihachi Mishima from the Tekken series(this including the recent 3d movie Tekken: Blood Vengeance)
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Thoughts?
For those unfamiliar with Heihachi, he's not simply a peak human by real world's standards, his most notable feat fx. being surviving a Jack-4 selfdestructing at very close range. It did KO him for 2 months though.
In Tekken Blood Vengeance his fight against his son Kazuya and his grandson Jin also give a good sense of his abilities.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Haji » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:00 pm

Any Marvel characters powers and feats are not logical. They're powers fluctuate and new powers and feats come and go so much, it is not funny. But me, i'm thinking, Nappa blew up a whole city, so he could beat a lot of characters from that world.
And like i said before, about the new powers and feats coming and going, so The Thing may have been able to withstand something very stupid and now the Marvel fans have something to back up that character, all because a different writer for that series at the time, from what i hear this happens with all western comics. And a main reason i do not like them.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Mystic Gohan » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:41 pm

Brock Lesnar vs Mr.Satan

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by AgitoZ » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:54 pm

Mystic Gohan wrote:Brock Lesnar vs Mr.Satan
I don't know who this Mr. Lesnar is, but I think Mr. Satan would come out on top (he did win a Budokai once).

I'm gonna assume Mr. Lesnar is wrestler or something of that sort. Which in that case I thought the obvious match up was Mr. Satan versus "Macho Man" Randy Savage. I'm not sure who would win, but I'm pretty sure the entire Earth would be destroyed.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by mysticboy » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:51 pm

Mystic Gohan wrote:Brock Lesnar vs Mr.Satan
Satan's finished if Lesnar can catch him.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Perfect » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:52 pm

Lesnar's a brawler, Satan's a martial artist. Satan.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:25 pm

Any Marvel characters powers and feats are not logical.
Dragon Ball is not when you have characters are strong enough to blow up the Earth with a ki blast with the size of a football? Nappa would win against Ben Grimm (The Thing) since Nappa is much faster and spam ki attacks until he is dead or knock out. If it was a HTH fight then Ben Grimm might win. I recall Ben Grimm strong enough to smash through mountains when he fought Iron Man which something Goku did when he first Vegeta with the Kaioken?
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Haji » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:33 pm

What i meant by it not being logical is because of the stuff i have read from other forums about Goku vs whatever Marvel or DC comic character, like how the Hulk punched a meteor 3 times bigger than earth and it blew up? how? seems like his fist would just sink in if you ask me, oh and the one i heard about the Hulk holding a planet together to keep it from blowing up! how is that possible? It does not matter how strong you are, a planet falling apart, it's like, even if he holds one place,another area is going to explode. And Super Man, you would think if his sneeze can wipe out a whole solar system or galaxy, how can he even breath or talk on earth?

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Post by FindKenshi » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:37 pm

It's all perfectly logical, and there's plenty of make-believe "comic science" that explains the feats, if you're really interested.

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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Post by Haji » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:47 pm

I know that, they can do whatever the writers want. That's another thing i don't like, it's like the writers set up they're comic world with it's laws of physics sometimes like ours and then just break them at any point. Most Japanese mangaka stick with they're in world logic and i like that.

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