How would you have written Goku killing Freeza?

[FindKenshi]

In the unaltered time plane, we know that Goku killed Freeza and Cold, by teleporting out of his pod to quickly get to Earth. But... how do you see this going down?

What kinds of things do you think Goku and Freeza said to eachother? Freeza's father? Were the killings in the heat of combat? Was Freeza beaten down, first, and then killed execution style? Did Goku just blast them instantly as soon as he appeared on Earth?

How would you pull this off while leaving Goku in-character, and consistent to how he acted when he made it back to Earth and met Future Trunks?

I wonder, if Goku really even did kill them. Trunks's history is that Goku did it, but this could be a time paradox. It's sort of like Tiber Septim manteling the God, Talso, in The Elder Scrolls. Once he mantled Talos he became a "new" God, but the fact that he was a God now meant that he had always been a God, so there had always been a Talos.

In the same way, maybe Trunks has always killed Freeza. The unaltered history where Goku does it, never happened ever, because Trunks changing history changed ALL the universes this way.

[CaBrPi]

Time in Dragon Ball is treated more like a tree or a river than a line or a circle. See, it's stated (or rather, speculated) by Trunks that his return to the past created a divergence in the timeline, splitting his universe from the one we see. When he returns, he never says anything about history in his own universe being changed, so we can safely assume that Goku still killed Freeza and King Cold in Trunks' universe.

[FindKenshi]

Ok, so ignoring that can of worms, how would you answer the first part of my post?

[CaBrPi]

I think the overall attitude and dialog would be similar to Goku vs. Piccolo at the 23rd Budokai.

I think Goku would definitely go after Freeza first, seeing him as the big threat, and then probably give King Cold a chance to leave, and then kill him when he refuses.

[Rostir]

What has always troubled my Dragon Ball mind is the question in the air is if Freeza is stronger than King Cold or not.

[Mystic Gohan]

Yes he is.

[CaBrPi]

What has always troubled my Dragon Ball mind is the question in the air is if Freeza is stronger than King Cold or not.

It's said that he is in-universe. The powers heading toward Earth are described as "Freeza" and "like Freeza's". Nothing in that particular micro-arc is said about who's more powerful, but Freeza claims to be the strongest in the universe while fighting Goku, and I'd think he would know.

[Mystic Gohan]

Plus it doesn't seem like King Cold objects to frieza going on and on and on about being the strongest, so we might as well take it as fact. I might as well answer the question.

I always thought it would have been epic if cooler had to come with them. And with the help of kamiccolo they defeated all three of them.

[Fox666]

What has always troubled my Dragon Ball mind is the question in the air is if Freeza is stronger than King Cold or not.

Yes, Freeza is the strongest of the two. Freeza called himself the strongest of the universe right in front of King Cold, while Cold told Trunks that the strongest in the universe should belong to his clan.

Additionally, this is the information given in his Daizenshuu 7 profile: Though he's the head of the strongest family in the universe, he is somewhat inferior to Freeza.

[NANLIT]

I wouldn't be surprised if Goku just quickly killed Freeza and his father. At the end of his first fight with Freeza, he spared him and gave him some energy and Freeza used it to attack Goku one last time, resulting in Goku's last attack. Freeza wasted his chance at being spared so I think with him coming to Earth would make Goku go all out and defeat him fast, similar to Trunks.

[NitroEX]

I imagined it going down like this. Frieza sends out his henchmen after the Z fighters but Piccolo, Vegeta and the gang dispose of them which would lead to Frieza finally stepping in. After some retaliation Frieza would start tearing the group apart and just as it looks like all hope is lost Goku's ship comes within range (or he senses someone about to die) and he finally teleports to Earth. After a brief exchange of words Goku would transform and we'd see a scene similar to the one with Trunks were Frieza has flashbacks of Namek and starts to show fear. Once the fight began Goku would quickly overpower Frieza because of his training on Yardrat and after realizing he can't win this would scare him into either running back to his ship and retreating or blowing up the planet similar to Cooler. If he tried retreating in his ship I imagine Goku would calmly watch it take off before finally firing a Kamehameha at it and destroying them both for good. The other option would end similarly to Cooler but less dramatic as in he wouldn't send him into the sun.

[mysticboy]

I'd imagine Goku giving Freeza one last chance to leave the planet. Freeza doesn't take him up on that offer and fires off a blast. Goku quickly fires a Kamehameha, going through Freeza's blast and kills Freeza. Then Cold talks some shit, and Goku punches him through the chest.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Goku would quickly defeat Freeza's henchmen, before turning to Freeza and expressing pity for him coming back for revenge. Freeza would be offended and state that, having recovered from his defeat and increased his power, he'd reclaimed his position as the strongest in the universe. Gokuu would become a Super Saiyan.

Freeza, upon Gokuu's transformation, would charge up to full power (but faster than before, and doesn't bulk up because of his cybernetic adjustments) and rush at him, only for Gokuu to nonchalantly dodge his every attack. Gokuu would calmly tell a terrified Freeza that he'd dug his own grave, before instantly killing him.

King Cold would then commend Gokuu on defeating his son (although perhaps giving the excuse that he was caught off-guard) and offer him a place, but Gokuu would decline. Gokuu would give him a chance to leave, rather than face the same fate as his son, but Cold would just laugh it off. Then, like Freeza, he'd be instantly killed.

[Mystic Gohan]

I would have him get tickled to death by gokus pointy hair.

[Fionordequester]

Goku would quickly defeat Freeza's henchmen, before turning to Freeza and expressing pity for him coming back for revenge. Freeza would be offended and state that, having recovered from his defeat and increased his power, he'd reclaimed his position as the strongest in the universe. Gokuu would become a Super Saiyan.

Freeza, upon Gokuu's transformation, would charge up to full power (but faster than before, and doesn't bulk up because of his cybernetic adjustments) and rush at him, only for Gokuu to nonchalantly dodge his every attack. Gokuu would calmly tell a terrified Freeza that he'd dug his own grave, before instantly killing him.

King Cold would then commend Gokuu on defeating his son (although perhaps giving the excuse that he was caught off-guard) and offer him a place, but Gokuu would decline. Gokuu would give him a chance to leave, rather than face the same fate as his son, but Cold would just laugh it off. Then, like Freeza, he'd be instantly killed.

So far, this seems like the most likely explanation to me, except for the Goku killing Frieza instantly part. In my opinion, it'd probably be more like Post RoSaT Trunk's vs. Imperfect Cell, where he doesn't kill him instantly, but would instead knock him around a bit, then as Frieza's preparing his planet destroying attack, Goku would finish him off with a Kamehameha.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Goku would quickly defeat Freeza's henchmen, before turning to Freeza and expressing pity for him coming back for revenge. Freeza would be offended and state that, having recovered from his defeat and increased his power, he'd reclaimed his position as the strongest in the universe. Gokuu would become a Super Saiyan.

Freeza, upon Gokuu's transformation, would charge up to full power (but faster than before, and doesn't bulk up because of his cybernetic adjustments) and rush at him, only for Gokuu to nonchalantly dodge his every attack. Gokuu would calmly tell a terrified Freeza that he'd dug his own grave, before instantly killing him.

King Cold would then commend Gokuu on defeating his son (although perhaps giving the excuse that he was caught off-guard) and offer him a place, but Gokuu would decline. Gokuu would give him a chance to leave, rather than face the same fate as his son, but Cold would just laugh it off. Then, like Freeza, he'd be instantly killed.

So far, this seems like the most likely explanation to me, except for the Goku killing Freeza instantly part. In my opinion, it'd probably be more like Post RoSaT Trunk's vs. Imperfect Cell, where he doesn't kill him instantly, but would instead knock him around a bit, then as Freeza's preparing his planet destroying attack, Goku would finish him off with a Kamehameha.

Yeah, actually, that sounds better.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I actually like the idea of Goku defeating Freeza rather quickly. He already knows about the whole "destroy the planet" nonsense he's capable of, so I could see him erasing Freeza with a Chi-blast rather quickly. How he'd defeat Cold is an interesting what-if. Goku would probably defeat him just as fast without giving him much of a chance to do anything else.

[FindKenshi]

Ok, thanks everyone for your contributions. I kind of see it how Turlast aid, but even more so.
I think Goku goes SSj in his pod, and then teleports to Earth. He literally just appears, and blasts Freeza and Cold with a single shot, like immediately after appearing. They dont' even have time to know what's going on, and he takes them both out with one hit. Then he goes back to normal, wipes sweat off his forehead, and comments something along the lines of "whew, that was close." I think Vegeta and Piccolo then kill all the underlings and blow up the ship. Trunks was obviously trying to fulfill something by doing that, but I just can't see an in-character Goku slaughtering underlings, no matter how hard I try.

Epsecially if cold-blooded Trunks himself first warned them before killing them... or did he? I know he does in the anime, can't remember if he gave them the same warning in the manga or not.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Yeah, Trunks never gave them a warning in the Manga.

I can't picture Goku wiping out Cold's henchmen, either. That's one of the reasons why I liked the theory of Goku sparring them in the future timeline, which allowed them to end up attacking the family of #17 & #18, and thus, started to awaken the darkness within them before Gero ended up converting them. *Gets hit by incoming fruits*

[Piccolo Daimao]

I actually like the idea of Goku defeating Freeza rather quickly. He already knows about the whole "destroy the planet" nonsense he's capable of, so I could see him erasing Freeza with a Chi-blast rather quickly. How he'd defeat Cold is an interesting what-if. Goku would probably defeat him just as fast without giving him much of a chance to do anything else.

Oh yeah, that.

Well, either way, it means that Gokuu didn't waste much time killing him. I think that, after Goku dodges his every attack and tells him that he'd dug his own grave, Freeza would try to destroy the planet, but then Goku would immediately kill him with a Kamehameha.

As for the henchmen, I think it would play it in a similar way to when Goku defeated Recoom and Butta. He'd knock out the majority of them, and then turn to the remaining one or two who happened to avoid the onslaught (like, I dunno, Appule when he and the other Freeza soldiers got demolished by the Namekians) and tell them to take them and leave the planet. The terrified henchmen would run off and escape in the spaceship without his comrades, and then the rest of the Z-Warriors would come over. Vegeta would kill the unconscious henchmen, once again berating Goku for his softness.