Future Trunks at peace

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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:19 am

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Piccolo Daimao wrote:Yes, there probably was a #16, but I think, rather than shoving him in a cabinet like in the main timeline, Gero completely scrapped him. In Gero's lab in the main timeline, I don't think we even see cabinets other than #16, #17, #18, #19 and #20's, with the previous Androids' cabinets nowhere to be seen. Obviously, #8 was at Jingle Village, but we don't see the others.
That's possible, considering no.17 and 18 are different from the present time-line. Or perhaps these evil versions of no.17 and 18 had no care about 16 at all?
I personally don't think future #17 and #18 were any different from their present counterparts. The only difference is that Goku was dead in their timeline, so they got bored and started blowing shit up.

And @In Brightest Day: Now I think I understand what you're getting at. #16 wouldn't have to help Trunks go to Namek or anything. Just do what he wants, but if anyone tried to threaten the safety of Earth, he'd step in. I was confused, for some reason.
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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by Fox666 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:22 am

The present androids did not kill the policeman who gone after them or any human. So I think they are quite different from the future ones. The Daizenshuu also mentions that "the No. 17 and No. 18 in the future where the adult Trunks came from are somewhat inferior in power, but are cruel and inhumane."

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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by Rocketman » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:43 am

Twenty years of absolute, unchallengable power, and anybody would become sadistic and cruel.

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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:26 pm

Rocketman wrote:Twenty years of absolute, unchallengable power, and anybody would become sadistic and cruel.
Exactly.
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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by Relight » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:58 pm

Like others have said, his official story ends with him living happily ever after in peace after helping to rebuild the world. His is one of the few character's ending which IMO actually have a perfect ending, and considering he's my favorite character within the series, I'm content with leaving it that way.

He probably continued to train, and I'm sure eventually he achieved SSJ2, but as far as we know no new threat ever entered his world until he died.
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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by sanorin » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:29 pm

You are all forgetting something really important (ironic mode on)!! Only 1 or 2 years after he defeats Cell, another menace would come from space, a tsufur called Baby that, being the only Saiyan alive, would possess Trunks, becoming Trunks-Baby and slaving the few thousands of humans still alive. :twisted:

Here is a drawing I just made of him:
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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by Relight » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:33 pm

^Wow, nice art, I love his hairdue, is that Future Trunks' SSJ2 hair?
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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by sanorin » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:48 pm

Hehe thanks. I would say it's the normal white Baby hair, don't know if that is considered SS hair.

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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:16 pm

That is a fucking awesome drawing. :P I just love seeing different versions of Baby-possessed beings (like NovaSayajinGoku's "Piccolo-Baby"), since he's got such a cool design.
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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by NitroEX » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:52 pm

Rocketman wrote:Twenty years of absolute, unchallengable power, and anybody would become sadistic and cruel.
It would be pretty funny if Future Trunks somehow turned evil and used his time machine to wreak havoc on other timelines.

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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by NANLIT » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:17 pm

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Rocketman wrote:Twenty years of absolute, unchallengable power, and anybody would become sadistic and cruel.
It would be pretty funny if Future Trunks somehow turned evil and used his time machine to wreak havoc on other timelines.
I just had the thought of Future Trunks stealing his mom's old Dragon Radar, going back in time to the time of the Red Ribbon Army, crush the RRA until they swore to be loyal to him, kill the King, and then kill Roshi, Goku, Kuririn, and Yamcha while wishing for immortality and plunging the past world into chaos with the fact that no one can oppose him. Or another one is where he goes back to the time of Freeza and his father coming to Earth, kills his past self in secret, kills Freeza and King Cold along with the Z Fighters before taking over Freeza's empire. Oh! Maybe he could go back in time to Piccolo Daimao's first reign and kill Mutaito before he can master the Mafuuba and let that world plunge into darkness; he can just leave that world to suffer and go to a new timeline.

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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:52 pm

It'd be interesting if Trunks attempted to travel back in time to defeat the Red Ribbon Army before Gero even began his project, but ended up getting his data taken. So when he returned to his own time, it was even worse than before because, with all the strength and Super Saiyan data that they'd recorded from him, they'd made even further development much earlier than before and the Red Ribbon Army now ruled the world.
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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by NANLIT » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:24 pm

Well, it'd be the future of that particular timeline, not his own, that would be altered but yeah, that'd be interesting to see him make a bigger threat by trying to prevent it in the first place.

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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by FindKenshi » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:03 pm

For as long as I've read/watched Dragon Ball, I've always beleived that Trunks abused his new powers after killing his enemies... he became a tyranical ruler of the new Earth, taking all the credit for saving human civilization and becoming its singular leadership figure during the rebuilding to come.

I feel like he became super-defensive of Earth after that time, to the point of wanting to control everything, including all the rebuilding efforts, the government, the laws, etc. And anyone who disagreed, he destroyed them. Probably not outright, but he probably had thugs did it, or appeared at their home after dark and did it quietly.

What gave me this idea is just Trunks's general darkness... and the really creepy smile he gives his mom when he tells them "this is why I went back to see Goku and his friends, right?" As in he's like "I have what I want now, the power to kill these bastards," but he's putting on like a fake outward cheerful expression for Bulma almost like some cheap-ass 60's propaganda PSA, the smiling cheerful defender of freedom... but he's really a mal-raised psychopath with a really hard childhood... it's scary that Trunks is as powerful as he is in his world, with absolutly no one else to keep him in check.
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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by Relight » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:28 am

^Don't speak about Future Trunks that way, he risked everything to make a better future not only for the past, but for his timeline as well. Of course when he came back he was seeking vengeance and happy as hell to finally kill these demented psychotic cyborg bastards, and of course he took pleasure in it. Could you blame him? They ruined his life, took his father from him, robbed him of his one and only friend, made him and his mom exist in a living hell. Future Trunks is an inherently good character, he proves this through and through - yes, he may be a little prejudice against androids, but after going through what he did, you would be too.
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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by Goten Forever » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:15 am

Bussani wrote:
In Brightest Day wrote:Technology hasn't grown in the 20 something years that they last traveled to Namek?
Well, the androids had spent the last 20 years blowing everything up, hadn't they? It might have been hard to have time to design faster ships. But hey, Dr. Brief built Goku one based on his Saiyan pod, so maybe they'd still have the know-how to do it. It's finding New Namek that would be a challenge. Maybe Bulma could soup up the dragon radar to pick up the Namekian balls and navigate to the planet using that? No idea if that would be possible, but it's a thought.
Think of our technology now - we'd be able to find Namek easily.
In the time between the Android saga and Trunks' time (17 years) scientists would have been able to locate Namek accidentally! This is a sci-fi world we are talking about!

Also, remaining scientists would have tried very hard to find a habitable planet like Earth to travel to. Remember when that presenter tried to interview Cell? 'I-If we fly away on spaceships, will you blow them up?'
This indicates that they already viewed space-travel as an opportunity, but were just terrified that they would all be killed at once.

Also they'd remember the Space Ship technology made to heavily modify Goku's ship (and recreate Tapion's 'box' ) because they record and remember everything they use and create.
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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by Hades » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:39 am

Would it be possible for him to become the new guardian? Assuming popo (don't know where he'd be on the pecking order) and the lookout were still around, he could try to assume the role of Kami.
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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by hleV » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:32 am

Relight wrote:He probably continued to train, and I'm sure eventually he achieved SSJ2, but as far as we know no new threat ever entered his world until he died.
It looks as if here speaks the Trunks' fanboy side of yours. Human-Saiyan hybrids don't tend to train that much unless forced/for playfighting, and it's really hard to imagine future Trunks achieving SSJ2. Really.

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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:38 am

NANLIT wrote:Well, it'd be the future of that particular timeline, not his own, that would be altered but yeah, that'd be interesting to see him make a bigger threat by trying to prevent it in the first place.
Well, it could potentially affect multiple timelines.
Relight wrote:^Don't speak about Future Trunks that way, he risked everything to make a better future not only for the past, but for his timeline as well. Of course when he came back he was seeking vengeance and happy as hell to finally kill these demented psychotic cyborg bastards, and of course he took pleasure in it. Could you blame him? They ruined his life, took his father from him, robbed him of his one and only friend, made him and his mom exist in a living hell. Future Trunks is an inherently good character, he proves this through and through - yes, he may be a little prejudice against androids, but after going through what he did, you would be too.
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Hades wrote:Would it be possible for him to become the new guardian? Assuming popo (don't know where he'd be on the pecking order) and the lookout were still around, he could try to assume the role of Kami.
He's probably the only pure and super-strong candidate for the God of Earth left, so maybe. But I don't think he ever did, since if he became God, then he may not be allowed to fend off any future threats, and there are practically no super warriors left. Even if Kame-sennin took on a new school of students, none of them would have Saiyan blood, therefore they'd never be strong enough to even defeat enemies stronger than Freeza.
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Relight wrote:He probably continued to train, and I'm sure eventually he achieved SSJ2, but as far as we know no new threat ever entered his world until he died.
It looks as if here speaks the Trunks' fanboy side of yours. Human-Saiyan hybrids don't tend to train that much unless forced/for playfighting, and it's really hard to imagine future Trunks achieving SSJ2. Really.
I'm not so sure about that. While Trunks isn't a full-blooded Saiyan who doesn't have the same drive as Gokuu and Vegeta, he think he'd feel it was his duty, as the last super-warrior on Earth, to keep up his strength in case another threat appeared. So I don't think it's that hard to imagine future Trunks reaching SS2. He doesn't seem like the type of person to slack off (Gohan, Goten and Trunks were Earthlings at heart who didn't grow up in an apocalypse and wanted normal Earthling lives, and Gokuu and Vegeta were still alive to train anyway).

Yeah, it would probably take him longer than Gokuu and Vegeta, but I don't think it's a stretch to say he eventually reached it. Unless he needs a rage catalyst like Gohan.
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Re: Future Trunks at peace

Post by NANLIT » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:08 am

Hades wrote:Would it be possible for him to become the new guardian? Assuming popo (don't know where he'd be on the pecking order) and the lookout were still around, he could try to assume the role of Kami.
Wouldn't that be counterproductive because if Trunks became Kami, he'd be very limited in what he could do himself to stop any new threats? The whole 'people shouldn't rely on Kami to fix their problems and create their own miracles' bit and all.

And I agree with Piccollo Daimao about Future Trunks training. He's the only super powered fighter left and even if his motivation to get stronger is different than Goku and Vegeta, he'd still see getting stronger as his duty. Besides, he's had training with his father, which is something that prevented Future Gohan and Trunks from surpassing 17 and 18 on their own; no experience with training with their fighting genius fathers on how to surpass SSJ.

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