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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by dbboxkaifan » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:21 am

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Eire wrote:Am I the only one who find the idea of false copyright claim used in that case as below my standards?
Yes it is, as VegettoEX said, though some people on YouTube don't really care about that when they're trying to close someone else's account just because they want to take him/her/them down for whatever excuse.

Cussing is also below my standards but I do it most of the time while I'm on Xbox LIVE, others do over there, so who cares (it's not as if the staff is going to do anything about it). :lol:
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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by Beji » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:31 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Definitely not the right way to go about it, regardless of how you feel about the moral high ground.
I guess there really isn't anything to do besides ignoring it and just hoping people realize where everything is really from. I'm just glad to see on here i'm not the only one who thought it was annoying even though the pending approval part is what really did it for me. Filtering out the truth just feels so wrong to me. Thanks.

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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by Corporate_Nothing » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:46 pm

You could always flag every single video on every single channel for "Deceptive text." That is a valid claim.
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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by FindKenshi » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:04 pm

The Hoshi stuff isn't hurting anything. And you can no more "get rid of it" than you can kill various Internet "memes." You can try, but believe it or not, it's sorta like trying to launch a Denial of Service attack by doing so.
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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:06 am

I'm wacthing any Dragon Ball on YouTube (VERRRY rarely), since it's filled with FUNi shit or AF/Hoshi shit, so, I don't care about Hoshi.
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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:35 pm

FindKenshi wrote:The Hoshi stuff isn't hurting anything. And you can no more "get rid of it" than you can kill various Internet "memes." You can try, but believe it or not, it's sorta like trying to launch a Denial of Service attack by doing so.
Agreed. It's futile to attempt to "get rid" of it in any way, because, well, that's the internet for ya.
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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by StarRot » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:46 pm

I'd just ignore it, if it bothers you.
I mean, it's not good when people are actively trying to deceive others into thinking it’s real, but if they're just having fun with Hoshi, like it's a continuation of the original story, I don't see a problem.
It’s nice to see people do fan work … I will say, I don’t like the majority of AF/Hoshi stuff, as I personally find a lot of it badly written, but each to their own.

Some of the sheer RAGE (not talking about anyone on this site) I've seen against it is a little ... over the top.

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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:37 am

UltimateMysticGohan wrote:It’s not fake, its going to be produced by Akira Toriyama
http://lounge.moviecodec.com/manga/is-d ... e-124088/3
MangaDragonBallHoshi wrote:I and SuperDragonBallAf2 have not create Dragon Ball Hoshi we are only DBHL

D = Dragon

B = Ball

H = Hoshi

L = Loader
MangaDragonBallHoshi wrote:Dragon Ball??? Dragon Ball HOSHI! Is realased on 1 December 2012
MangaDragonBallHoshi wrote:Dragon Ball Hoshi IS NOT A FAKE!
MangaDragonBallHoshi wrote:yes it is true but Dragon Ball Heroes is a GAME! but Dragon Ball Hoshi is a SAGA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2iUrvlmxkk

These comments must be from little kids that just want attention (views) but comments are held up for approval because they know it's bullshit.

I've flagged it as scams/fraud, nothing wrong with flagging as such because it is fraud.
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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by MCDaveG » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:42 pm

I don't care, it will fade away the same way the AF did. Everyone believed in AF and those core dumb believers had the mouth shut right after there was nothing new for a year or two with only 3 good looking fan arts in hand. Most people claiming Hoshi exist are damn kids. And I don't care about kids :lol:
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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by Fox666 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:50 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Especially since you're making a legal claim and can be brought to court over false copyright accusations.
Ehhh, it's very unlikely anyone is going to be sued based on a button in Youtube website. Especially taking in account the person may be a minor or live in the Third World.
dbboxkaifan wrote:I've flagged it as scams/fraud, nothing wrong with flagging as such because it is fraud.
It's just a hoax. It's not different of making a Bigfoot video.

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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by Adamant » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:25 pm

Fox666 wrote: Ehhh, it's very unlikely anyone is going to be sued based on a button in Youtube website. Especially taking in account the person may be a minor or live in the Third World.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... -uploading

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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by Fox666 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:30 pm

I am not talking about video uploading, but flagging.

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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by monkeydlogan » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:22 pm

I don't really follow this Hoshi.
But is it the same thing over on Kanzentai's site?
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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by Adamant » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:32 pm

Fox666 wrote:I am not talking about video uploading, but flagging.
If you read that story, you'd know that what caused the lawsuit was that they filed a counter-claim stating that they indeed had legal rights to this material... much like you'd be doing if you filed a false claim to have them removed.

Of course, in their case they were telling the actual rights holders they were allowed to upload this stuff to the internet, while you'd just be telling some random internet nobody that you had legal rights to this material, so there's a much lower chance of getting into trouble over it... but yes, you can most certainly be "sued over pressing on button on Youtube", which is what you initially claimed you couldn't.
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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by Corporate_Nothing » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:03 pm

monkeydlogan wrote:I don't really follow this Hoshi.
But is it the same thing over on Kanzentai's site?
Dragon Ball S.S.S.S. or whatever?
It doesn't exist. All it is is a bunch of little kids splicing together a bunch of pictures and videos from Episode of Bardock; Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans; Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!; and Dragon Ball Heroes, and calling it "Dragon Ball Hoshi." Sometimes they throw in a few poorly photoshopped Dragon Ball AF pictures that have been floating around the internet for ages. Then they make a dozen Youtube channels and make all comments subject to uploader approval so no commentators ever give away the fact that every single video on every single Hoshi-related channel is complete bullshit.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the Hoshi-channels are monetized, which means that they're actually making money for all the hits they get on their videos. If only Toei's copyright detection methods would shut down these channels, too.
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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by Fox666 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:51 pm

Adamant wrote:If you read that story, you'd know that what caused the lawsuit was that they filed a counter-claim stating that they indeed had legal rights to this material... much like you'd be doing if you filed a false claim to have them removed.

Of course, in their case they were telling the actual rights holders they were allowed to upload this stuff to the internet, while you'd just be telling some random internet nobody that you had legal rights to this material, so there's a much lower chance of getting into trouble over it... but yes, you can most certainly be "sued over pressing on button on Youtube", which is what you initially claimed you couldn't.
It's a completely different case. First of all, uploaders brought the copyright holders to the court. It won't raise the chances of an uploaders being sued, mostly because a Google Account or IP address is still not reliable.

Secondly, and most important, the "Flag" button is only that, a button. It's not much different from a "vote down" option, and essentially it alerts the Youtube to check the video (I believe the check is based on the amount of users that report a video). You are not going to be sued by fake flagging a video.

And I am not quite sure about the source you posted, since it also mention the infamous "1,337 BitTorrent users sued" hoax. However I am not interesting in checking for myself.

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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:54 pm

They might be which is very unfortunate, TOEI is the one who's able to legally claim the copyrights (and Bandai, plus Fuji TV, I think) but they haven't.

DBZanto for example is a YouTube Partner who posts DBZ game walkthroughs and it's an honest way of monetising, getting paid means he'll do more Dragon Ball games.

As for these Hoshi kids.. they don't have future with the crap they post.

I was sent a YouTube video about NecessaryGaming which is like Machinima, and getting paid to play would be cool, I registered at their site but don't have much hope I'll be picked. I don't have any recording or TV to PC capture card. :?
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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by Son_Gohan » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:55 pm

Didn't CrunchyRoll start off streaming content illegally, only becoming legitimate after the fact? That's kinda ironic.

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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:19 pm

It was understandable with Dragon Ball AF back in the day since it was difficult to find reputable sources of information, but in this day and age where Google is only a click away and we have great websites like Kanzentai and Daizex, it really shouldn't be this easy to deceive people. It's not like we have to visit some crappy fansite that takes 30 minutes to load to find out about 'Plan to Eradicate Saiyans' or find out about Dragon Ball Kai through some Beckett magazine that was given to you by a friend from school (those were the days...). :lol:

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Re: How to get rid of Dragon Ball Hoshi

Post by CashmanX » Wed May 02, 2012 8:56 am

Sorry to bump an old thread, but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylE2MwrjH8k

We need to get that wiki up and fast.

Speaking of which what is this interview actually from?
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