Is Bandai ever going to do a "Sonic Generations" DB-style?

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Is Bandai ever going to do a "Sonic Generations" DB-style?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:06 pm

Most known Sonic games from past/current gen:
  • A. Sonic Heroes
  • B. Sonic the Hedgehog 2006
  • C. Sonic World Adventure (Sonic Unleashed)
  • D. Sonic Colours
  • E. Sonic 4 Episode 1
  • F. Sonic Generations
A. Wasn't bad, quite a fun game to play around with, gave the choice of 4 characters (each one had his/her own set of abilities) and the graphics were great (I played it on the Original Xbox).

B + E. It shouldn't exist.

C. The day-time missions took me back to Sonic Adventure but bettered, though, when it'd turn night, Sonic's a werewolf and it's pretty much Sonic in a hack n' slash game to collect rings. SWA (SU) without night missions would've been all around brilliant (it's a 2D/3D game).

D. Kind of like SWA (SU) but improved and only with day-time missions, taking out the boring (night missions) away.

F. And finally, Sega came up with the "perfect" Sonic game combining the classic and Modern Sonic, graphics are top notch, music magnificent, gameplay's smooth and fun (unlike that shit called Sonic 4 Episode 1). :D

So I wonder, if Bandai will ever accomplish on releasing a Dragon Ball game that covers the entire series/films/specials/ovas, will they?
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:28 pm

Probably not, as I doubt DB games have the level of popularity than Sonic games do.
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Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:00 pm

I don't understand the question. What exactly do you mean by a Sonic Generation's type game? If you are referring to a blending of style types then, Ultimate Tenkaichi kinda-sorta did that but dropped the ball big time. If whoever picks up this franchise decides to try to do a better job of blending the Tenkaichi and Budokai games(since I'm assuming this is what you are asking) then sure, it's a good idea.

However If that's the question I don't think you understand what Sonic Generations was for. I don't know how old you are but most people(that I know of) know Sonic for his classic games from the Genesis days. A lot of the reason Generations did so well was because of the nostalgia factor. Most people dislike modern Sonic, and being able to play as classic Sonic in a classic Sonic levels raised a lot of eyebrows in the gaming community. That and the fact that Sonic was celebrating his 20th birthday and the whole game was a nostalgia trip(for better or for worse). The concept doesn't work well for Dragonball. The games, at least the more well known ones aren't that old. There isn't really a desire to take a trip down memory lane. Besides, most of the levels, music, characters and so forth carried over from previous installments(in regards to their respective series that is). It would be kind of silly to have an anniversary game.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:10 pm

What I meant was, to follow all of Dragon Ball's stories closely. DB, DBZ, DBGT, Specials, Films and OVAs.

Maybe it's asking too much for Bandai, so just the three series (DB + Z + GT) would be more than enough.

Ultimate Tenkaichi had the right idea but flopped unfortunately. :?
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Post by Chuquita » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:14 pm

Artistically, I think it'd be neat to play a DB game that uses different Toriyama-era art-styles. Like having a Goku or Piccolo in the rounded art style of the 23rd Tenkaichi Budoukai vs the sharp-edged lines of his Buu era art-style. A lot of DB games have characters from all over the storyline, but the models themselves almost-always pull from the Cell arc's artwork (one of my least-favorite art eras) or in Vegeta's case, from the Buu arc because imo that's the arc where he finally gets a few bishounen brownie-points (could you imagine seeing super-huge-forehead/widow's-peak Cell arc Vegeta in a game? Or the softer, vaguely pre-Z way he looked in the early saiyajin arc?) .


It comes down to yes I'd really like to play 23rd Tenkaichi Budoukai characters with models that matches the manga/anime.
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Post by B » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:35 pm

SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:Most people dislike modern Sonic,
Uh, most of the modern Sonic games are best-sellers. Sonic Heroes sold at least a million copies, last I checked.

I'm not sure how this supposed Dragon Ball game would work. Do you want something akin to that animated short where Goku and Trunks go back in time and meet Goku at the scene where he meets Umigame?
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:48 pm

B wrote:I'm not sure how this supposed Dragon Ball game would work. Do you want something akin to that animated short where Goku and Trunks go back in time and meet Goku at the scene where he meets Umigame?
Just a game that follows the three Dragon Ball series faithfully and its specials/films too, cutscenes would be a nice extra too.

Sparking Meteor does sort of have what I want but it skips a lot of battles. :?

2D Dimps' and 3D Spike (or whoever) in one game would be something like Ultimate Tenkaichi, 2D now 3D then, so forth.
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:30 pm

B wrote:
SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:Most people dislike modern Sonic,
Uh, most of the modern Sonic games are best-sellers. Sonic Heroes sold at least a million copies, last I checked.
But within the hardcore Sonic fanbase, many people still prefer the original trilogy and wish it could return to that past glory. I mean, Sonic used to be a frontrunner rivaling Mario, but now look at him. And most hardcore Sonic fans seem to dislike Sonic characters in the extended universe (e.g. Rouge, Big, the Chaotix). That's the exact reason games like Sonic 4 and Sonic Generations exist.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:39 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:That's the exact reason games like Sonic 4 and Sonic Generations exist.
Sonic 4 is terrible, one of the most hatred Sonic games next to Sonic 06.

The gameplay isn't even fun or similar to the classic, it's rather slow and dull, though the graphics are gorgeous to look at.

Dimps produced Sonic 4, the team behind the Budoukai, IW and BL games screwed up Sonic 4 so badly. :(
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Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:31 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:What I meant was, to follow all of Dragon Ball's stories closely. DB, DBZ, DBGT, Specials, Films and OVAs.
In such a way that honors their strengths, sensibilities, limitations and particulars of the times of their creation? Dream come true!

But that would easily be too much effort for any developer to pull of in Shueisha's (Know I got that wrong) annual requirement.
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Post by Kingdom Heartless » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:58 am

Yeah, I feel there is probably a better example of what you are trying to say.

However, in terms of the redemption Sonic Generations offered me as someone who once lived and breathed Sonic, I would love to see a Dragon Ball game give me the same sense of fulfillment that Generations did.
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:34 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:That's the exact reason games like Sonic 4 and Sonic Generations exist.
Sonic 4 is terrible, one of the most hatred Sonic games next to Sonic 06.

The gameplay isn't even fun or similar to the classic, it's rather slow and dull, though the graphics are gorgeous to look at.

Dimps produced Sonic 4, the team behind the Budoukai, IW and BL games screwed up Sonic 4 so badly. :(
I wasn't talking about the (subjective) quality of Sonic 4, just the reason for its existence.
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Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:35 pm

Dimps did Tales of the Tempest, too. They're perfectly capable of making bad games.
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:25 pm

All companies are capable of making both good and bad games, because no company is flawless.
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Post by Goten Forever » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:28 pm

I'm not sure a Sonic Generations comparison would work because Generations focuses on the gameplay.

I would like to have a sort of graphics setting where you can switch designs between DB, Z and perhaps LateZ/GT.
It would be cool to compare Goku's old ssj hairstyle to his new one and see those hairstyles on other SSJ characters like Goten, Trunks, Vegeta. I liked his hair when he first turned into a SSJ which was shown on his Goku (mid) char in BT3.
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Post by Goten Forever » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:30 pm

DBZ games have generally looked the same for a long time.
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Post by Running Wild » Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:28 pm

How about another DragonBall Advance Adventure style game?

DB as a platformer/beat'em up was pretty sweet... that game was probably my favorite DB related game.

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Post by ShadowDude112 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:30 pm

You can't really compare Generations to a hypothetical game taking Generations' concept. Dragon Ball has two fighting engines that would clash way too much. The Budokai engine and Tenkaichi engine are entirely different. Also, wanna know what it would take to make that game? Effort. So, pretty much, it's not going to happen at all.
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Post by AgitoZ » Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:54 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:You can't really compare Generations to a hypothetical game taking Generations' concept. Dragon Ball has two fighting engines that would clash way too much. The Budokai engine and Tenkaichi engine are entirely different. Also, wanna know what it would take to make that game? Effort. So, pretty much, it's not going to happen at all.
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:40 pm

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ShadowDude112 wrote:You can't really compare Generations to a hypothetical game taking Generations' concept. Dragon Ball has two fighting engines that would clash way too much. The Budokai engine and Tenkaichi engine are entirely different. Also, wanna know what it would take to make that game? Effort. So, pretty much, it's not going to happen at all.
Indeed. As we all know no franchise has ever redeemed themselves after a slew of failures.
But what I'm saying is that it seems more like Bandai Namco is doing yearly releases, not only that, but to even make a game suggested, it would take more than just a year. It would require a decent amount of effort and time to make it just ok, by today's standard. That's what I meant by the effort thing. It's something Bandai Namco's never going to sit around and wait for.
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