Things you'd like to see in a Dragonball Z game

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Re: Things you'd like to see in a Dragonball Z game

Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:35 pm

dario03 wrote:(the H-word)
Why would you want Mr. Satan? He's a waste of space because he can't beat anyone, nor is he funny, Yamucha and Goku's stupidity make them somewhat comical.

A game with character 30-40 characters plus transformation is more than enough, at least this way there's space for each one to have his/her own abilities that just being skins/clones of others already existent.
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The "Teen Gohan" in Cell's arc? He's still a child! He only becomes a teen during the high school time and Boo's arc.

So he should be named "Pre-Teen Gohan" instead, and also Mr. Satan than the lousy ridiculous h-word name.

If they allow "kill" and "hell" then Mr. Satan is no problem.
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Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:57 pm

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dario03 wrote:(the H-word)
Why would you want Mr. Satan? He's a waste of space because he can't beat anyone, nor is he funny, Yamucha and Goku's stupidity make them somewhat comical.

A game with character 30-40 characters plus transformation is more than enough, at least this way there's space for each one to have his/her own abilities that just being skins/clones of others already existent.
But Mr. Satan is a very unique character and personally I do think he's funny. I loved his Gameboy explosion attack especially on characters who you knew were too smart to fall for something as dumb as that(Cell, Vegeta, Freeza etc.) Personally you want to talk about unique characters he, in my opinion, is one of them. He's like Dan from Street Fighter.
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Re: Things you'd like to see in a Dragonball Z game

Post by Akumaito Beam » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:03 pm

I loved Mr.Satan as a joke character and I loved it even more when they made him progressively worthless in every game series he was in. He started off shooting guns and throwing nukes and ended up hucking stones and having random damage rush attacks. The thing is I kind of feel like I had my yucks at Satan and wouldn't mind a new gag character.

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Re: Things you'd like to see in a Dragonball Z game

Post by Saiga » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:30 pm

I love Mr Satan and really miss him being in the games. Wouldn't mind seeing him again.

And in some games he can be deadly when used right. :wink:
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Re: Things you'd like to see in a Dragonball Z game

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:45 pm

(the H-word)
You can say Hell. It's okay to say bad words here since most of us are adults and not childern. I personally want a 65 character list and I agree with having Vegeta as one character. I never understand why they make Super 17 as his own character then as a transformation similar to Ubb fused with Buu or Piccolo fused with Kami in the other games?
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Re: Things you'd like to see in a Dragonball Z game

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:16 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
(the H-word)
You can say Hell. It's okay to say bad words here since most of us are adults and not childern.
Her.cule, not hell.
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Re: Things you'd like to see in a Dragonball Z game

Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:29 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
(the H-word)
You can say Hell.
He was referring to the censored name of Mr. Satan you know what it is, the h-word.

It would've been funny if Disney had patented the name Hercules (with/out S) and then FUNimation would have to look for a different name (Mark). :P

Then again chances of FUNimation naming him alternatively as Mark would be really slim, since they think Boo's arc is just filler. Way to make your fans more misinformed, FUNimation. :lol:
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Re: Things you'd like to see in a Dragonball Z game

Post by dario03 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:17 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
dario03 wrote:(the H-word)
Why would you want Mr. Satan? He's a waste of space because he can't beat anyone, nor is he funny, Yamucha and Goku's stupidity make them somewhat comical.

A game with character 30-40 characters plus transformation is more than enough, at least this way there's space for each one to have his/her own abilities that just being skins/clones of others already existent.
Super Saiyajin Luffy wrote:3. Teen Gohan (Base, SSJ, SSJ2)
The "Teen Gohan" in Cell's arc? He's still a child! He only becomes a teen during the high school time and Boo's arc.

So he should be named "Pre-Teen Gohan" instead, and also Mr. Satan than the lousy ridiculous h-word name.

If they allow "kill" and "hell" then Mr. Satan is no problem.
Personally I don't care about having him but it seems like a lot of people do want him. He works well as a joke character and sometimes those can be fun. I love using Dan in the SF4 games and he is terrible. Plus when I first made the list I had left him out but I wanted to include Videl so there would be another girl character, and I figured I should add him if she is going to be in it.

And we probably won't see him called Mr. Satan in any english version of the games unless they make a game aimed at older fans. Which would be really awesome since then we could get some awesome finishing moves and stuff but I wouldn't count on that happening.

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Re: Things you'd like to see in a Dragonball Z game

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:49 am

I thought he mean Hell as the H word since that is often used for Hell, my bad :oops: . I still personally say have Saiyajin Saga Vegeta, GT Vegeta and Super 17 not as separate since I find it pointless. I rather have Super 17 as a transformation as I mention before and I think at least 60 characters are good section of characters.

My good list of characters for the next game.

1. Goku (Base, SSj, Ascended SSj, SSj2, SSj3)
2. GT Kid Goku (Base, SSj, SSj3, SSj4)
3. Vegeta (Base, SSj, Ascended SSj, Majin, SSj2, SSj4)
4. Kid Gohan
5. Cell Saga Gohan (Base, SSj, SSj2)
6. Buu Saga Gohan (Base, SSj, SSj2, Mystic)
7. Mirai Gohan (Base, SSj)
8. Goten (Base, SSj)
9. Kid Trunks (Base, SSj)
10. Mirai Trunks (Base, SSj, Ascended SSj, SSj3)
11. GT Pan
12. Piccolo
13. Yamcha
14. Kuririn
15. Tenshinhan
16. Mr. Satan
17. Videl
18. Ubb (Ubb fused with Buu)
19. Bardock (Base, SSj)
20. Radditz
21. Nappa
22. Saibamen
23. Cui
24. Zarbon (Base, Post-Transformation)
25. Dodoria
26. Captain Ginyu (Base, Ginyu in Goku's body)
27. Reecome
28. Jeice
29. Burter
30. Guldo
31. Freeza (1st Form, 2nd Form, 3rd Form, Final Form, Full Power)
32. Mecha Freeza
33. #16
34. #17 (Base, Super 17)
35. #18
36. #19
37. Dr. Gero
38. Cell (Imperfect Form, Semi-Perfect Form, Perfect Form, Super Perfect Form)
39. Cell Jr.
40. Dabra
41. Fat Buu
42. Super Buu
43. Kid Buu (Base, Gotenks Absorbed, Gohan Absorbed)
44. Vegito (Base, SSJ)
45. General Rilldo (Base, Sigma Rilldo, Meta Rilldo)
46. Bebi Vegeta (Base, Form 2, Form 3)
47. Si Xing Long (Base, Armor Form)
48. Yi Xing Long (Base, Super Yi Xing Long)
49. SSj4 Gogeta
50. Tullece
51. Lord Slug
52. Coola (Base, Final Form)
53. Meta Coola
54. Broly (Base, SSj, LSSj)
55. Bojack (Base, Second Form)
56. Final Form Janemba
57. Paikuhan
58. SSJ Gogeta
59. Hatchiyack
60. Chilled
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:10 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:My good list of characters for the next game.
Even if you don't like them (I have no idea about your preferences), but you might as well include SS3 Vegeta and SS3 Broli since you added in Trunks and Bardock's new forms.
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Re: Things you'd like to see in a Dragonball Z game

Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:31 am

dario03 wrote:And we probably won't see him called Mr. Satan in any english version of the games unless they make a game aimed at older fans. Which would be really awesome since then we could get some awesome finishing moves and stuff but I wouldn't count on that happening.
It's not about the older fans, those who've seen the uncut version are aware of his real (stage) name than the censored.

The international dubs refer to him also as Mr. Satan, however France/Portugal had him as Hercules (the name reminds me of the animated Hercules from Disney :P) because Satan was already being used for Piccolo, so thus far, Satan's Little Heart.

Whether it's sold in US, or Europe it's often only English/Japanese so they should correct this mistake they've been doing for years. And also "Teen Gohan" to "Pre-Teen Gohan".

Budokai Tenkaichi 3 had Spanish idiom and so I'd tend to choose Spanish than English.
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Re: Things you'd like to see in a Dragonball Z game

Post by dario03 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:40 am

By older fans I meant if they made a game with a M for mature rating on it. The whole reason for the name change was so religous parents wouldn't get offended and stop letting their kids watch the show/play the games. Most of the fighting games have been rated T for teen because they are fighting games but there isn't much language or gore so a lot of parents will still buy kids the T games. Sure some buy M games for their kids to but if they do that they probably wouldn't care about Mr. Satan.

But in any case they probably figure more english speakers know him as Hercule since that was his name in the broadcast versions.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:41 pm

dario03 wrote:By older fans I meant if they made a game with a M for mature rating on it. The whole reason for the name change was so religous parents wouldn't get offended and stop letting their kids watch the show/play the games. Most of the fighting games have been rated T for teen because they are fighting games but there isn't much language or gore so a lot of parents will still buy kids the T games. Sure some buy M games for their kids to but if they do that they probably wouldn't care about Mr. Satan.

But in any case they probably figure more english speakers know him as (the H-word) since that was his name in the broadcast versions.
How come those religious parents are just fine with "hell" and "kill" and yet no Mr. Satan, it's his real (stage) name.
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Post by Rocketman » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:46 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:How come those religious parents are just fine with "hell" and "kill" and yet no Mr. Satan, it's his real (stage) name.
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Re: Things you'd like to see in a Dragonball Z game

Post by dario03 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:49 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
dario03 wrote:By older fans I meant if they made a game with a M for mature rating on it. The whole reason for the name change was so religous parents wouldn't get offended and stop letting their kids watch the show/play the games. Most of the fighting games have been rated T for teen because they are fighting games but there isn't much language or gore so a lot of parents will still buy kids the T games. Sure some buy M games for their kids to but if they do that they probably wouldn't care about Mr. Satan.

But in any case they probably figure more english speakers know him as (the H-word) since that was his name in the broadcast versions.
How come those religious parents are just fine with "hell" and "kill" and yet no Mr. Satan, it's his real (stage) name.
You would have to ask Funi that, I didn't make the name change.

But I don't recall hell and kill being chanted in the censored versions of DBZ but Satan is chanted in the show.

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Post by mysticboy » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:33 pm

1 adult Vegeta, Kid Vegeta, 1 Adult Gohan (current timeline)

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Re: Things you'd like to see in a Dragonball Z game

Post by dario03 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:53 pm

I would wait a couple games before including kid Vegeta, maybe put him, kid Goku (regular DB), and Tarble in the 3rd game.

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Post by Goten Forever » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:58 pm

Why wait?
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Post by dario03 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:26 pm

I want the characters in the game to be different from one another and be balanced. A large roster of different and balanced characters would require a longer development time. And games usually have a budget and time frame that they are working with. So I would rather they spend the time on the gameplay and making the characters unique compared to just jamming in a bunch of copy and paste characters. Plus they release a game every year so they can always add more later.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:13 pm

dario03 wrote:I want the characters in the game to be different from one another and be balanced. A large roster of different and balanced characters would require a longer development time. And games usually have a budget and time frame that they are working with. So I would rather they spend the time on the gameplay and making the characters unique compared to just jamming in a bunch of copy and paste characters. Plus they release a game every year so they can always add more later.
DLCs?

That happened with RB1 but they added characters which already existed but pumped to the max.

RB2 had some exclusive pre-order DLC codes for uniforms or w/e.
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