Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

Are we assuming that Godzilla-class monsters don't get any Ki-resistance on account of their sheer size? Granted Biollante isn't the best armored of the group, but still.

[KakaR0T]

Here's a fun one: Goku vs. Galactus

[Shoryuken]

Here's a fun one: Goku vs. Galactus

How is this even a fair battle? Galactus proceeds to transmute Son Goku, who doesn't even pack the fire-power yet alone strength to fight Galactus, into the shape of a carrot or he just outright atomizes him.

[Fox666]

Not necessarily... at least Vegetto can fight as a candy.

[Kaboom]

Not necessarily... at least Vegetto can fight as a candy.

Yeah, but... that's Vegetto. Luckily for Galactus, he's only up against Goku.

[mysticboy]

Hmm. Couldn't this be merged with the "All Purpose Versus Thread"?

Tao vs. Wolverine

[Hellspawn28]

Galactus is stronger then any Dragon Ball character, I remember that he was able to wipe out multiple Solar Systems while killing a watcher at his weakest in Annihilation. As for Tao vs. Wolverine, Tao should win since he is lot faster and has better physical strength. If Spider-Man could knock out Wolverine then Tao shouldn't have a problem doing so.

[Kaboom]

Hmm. Couldn't this be merged with the "All Purpose Versus Thread"?

Nah, despite the name, that's for Dragon Ball characters versus other Dragon Ball characters, which is more common. This one does just fine as a separate place for Dragon Ball versus "whatever."

[Haji]

Taopaipai threw a stone pillar for miles. He is powerful.

[mysticboy]

Nah, despite the name, that's for Dragon Ball characters versus other Dragon Ball characters, which is more common. This one does just fine as a separate place for Dragon Ball versus "whatever."

Oh, okay then.

[caejones]

It took three galaxies-worth of military power, the Fantastic Four and Reed Richard's plot-device-powered son to break Galactus's armor at his weakest... and Galactus got better anyway.

On the other hand, the Fantastic Four seem to chase Galactus away every weekend.
Honestly, Goku appearing in the Marvel universe would probably be entertaining regardless of power consistencies. Ridiculous crap happens in both Dragonwarld and the Marvelverse, but such different sorts of crazy crap that the clashing of them is bound to be either hilarious, awesome, or both.
(Assuming, of course, that this is handled by someone who ... ur... knows how to write.)

I find myself curious about the idea of maybe dropping a Marvel version of DB / Z into Earth16's China. However, my familiar with what Marvel already has set up in China is too limited to know how it might conflict (although the notion of proximity to Sytorak or the Manderan have already crossed my mind.)

[dario03]

Power wise Galactus should be waaaayyyyyyyyy past Goku even in a weakened state (and he is almost always in a weakened state). However he is often times set up as a jobber and gets pushed back some how. But I would say if the writing made any sense and we are assuming both characters are at their strongest then I would say Galactus wins easily.

Tao vs Wolverine is interesting. Tao should be much faster and stronger and in some ways take a hit better but Wolverine has his healing factor which in some cases makes him heal so fast he seems almost immortal. Wolverine also has his adamantium which makes his bones almost indestructible and if he can land a good hit with his claws he could one shot Tao.

[Hellspawn28]

Cyclops vs. Tao would be a better match up. Cyclops could beat Tao if he fires his optic blast at full force.

[SuppaSaiyanNerd]

What about Starkiller (from Star Wars: The Force Unleashed) vs. Gohan? Starkiller does some crazy shit in those games. He shoots the Force like Ki blasts and even threw a Star Destroyer to the ground with it. Gohan shouldn't transform of course, or he could kill him with his fart.

[Fox666]

Gohan at which point of the story?

[Pantalones]

Since he mentions Gohan not transforming, I'm guessing either Cell Games or Buu saga Gohan.

Either way, I seriously doubt anybody in the Star Wars universe would have a chance against him at that point. I don't know much of anything about Starkiller specifically, but I am very familiar with Star Wars in general, and Cell/Buu saga Gohan should win easily even in base against any Star Wars character (I mean, he should be pretty far into the single-digit millions at least, if not higher... Freeza was blowing up entire planets at 530,000, and everyone has been smashing mountains apart by accident since long before that.) Super Saiyan would be way past overkill, of course (let's not even think about SSj2.)

The "expanded universe" stuff may have stretched this a bit unrealistically (I'm not sure, I've never really gotten into that stuff much), but the movies pretty much established everyone as having mostly normal-human-ish strength/speed/etc., with only the upper-level Jedi/Sith and maybe some of the physically-stronger droids and aliens ever being able to get significantly beyond that level (and even they still get injured and killed pretty much as easily as anyone else when they aren't able to dodge or deflect an attack.)
Force powers are about the only thing that would have any hope of giving someone from Star Wars much of a chance, but of course, there's no guarantee that Force powers would work that well on someone as strong as the DBZ characters--I'm thinking of Chiaotzu's paralysis technique not having any effect on Nappa just because of the sheer power difference between them, or Kaioshin having great difficulty restraining Gohan even though he's well into the millions himself.

Basically, all Gohan would need to do to win against anyone from Star Wars would be to move too quickly for them to keep track of him and then hit them once, and not even all that hard, and there'd be pretty much nothing they could do about it.

[SuppaSaiyanNerd]

The outcome of the fight would rely pretty much on luck. Yes, Gohan is faster, but what if Starkiller Force Chokes him before he gets to move? Yeah, you can't really compare the two.

Although I do feel the standard Force abilities might be actually pretty effective. The Jedi and Sith can just freeze someone in the air and choke them to death.

[Hitiro]

Are we assuming that force choke would actually be strong enough to crush Gohan's throat? We're talking about people who can fly through buildings and mountains without doing any damage to themselves. I know Galen Marek (StarKiller) is probably the most powerful Jedi in existence non-canonically and that he can can crush massive metallic objects like Tie-fighters and Walkers without much effort but in comparison to the Z Fighters who can destroy machinery like it was paper I don't think he can hold a candle to them. Not to mention the Z Fighters are faster than the eye can see, even though all creatures in the universe, except for some in the star wars franchise that are born without force, can be sensed by Jedi's and Sith alike Galen would have no time to react even if he sensed Gohan coming.

[Pantalones]

Yeah... things like the force choke are exactly what I was talking about when I brought up Chiaotzu's psychic paralysis ability, and later on Kaioshin's. The effectiveness of telekinesis-like powers (which most offensive Force abilities seem to be, aside from a few things like the lightning) seems to drop massively whenever there's a gap in power between the user and the target.

There's no guarantee that Force powers would work that well on someone as strong as the DBZ characters--I'm thinking of Chiaotzu's paralysis technique not having any effect on Nappa just because of the sheer power difference between them, or Kaioshin having great difficulty restraining Gohan even though he's well into the millions himself.

Since most if not all Star Wars characters are only on normal-human-ish levels of durability, of course it would usually work on them (especially the random thugs and Imperial officers; with no above-normal power whatsoever, those types of guys probably can't even hope to resist it.) But why would it be guaranteed to work on anyone just because? I know when Vader did it in the movie, it seemed like it was only choking his victims as much as Vader himself would physically be capable of... on normal-human terms, that's a lot (Vader's a pretty big guy and is probably physically enhanced to some extent both by his machine parts and the dark side of the Force), but when you consider how far above normal-human level everyone in DBZ is, that really shouldn't even be enough to tickle someone as powerful as Cell- or Buu-saga Gohan.

[Bussani]

To be fair, he was talking about Starkiller from Force Unleashed, whose force powers are complete insanity. This guy literally drags Star Destroyers out of the sky and crushes giant armored robots into little balls to throw at other giant robots. None of that necessarily means he could choke Gohan, of course, but you can't really compare him to what you see in the films.