Suppose Toei decided to actually remake the original Dragon Ball without the filler and with actual new animation to update it. It's likely a pipe dream but just suppose it was possible. How would it differ from the old Anime? I can imagine the perverted humor being reduced to implications due to more stricter censorship and with Nicktoons, it'd probably be kept but reduced to an innuendo via editing.
What about you? What if the first Dragon Ball was remade like Z but more properly?
If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai?
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
No, no, no and... NOOOOO!!!! I don't want any remake, not for the original, not for Z, not for GT. I've already seen enough of them in manga, anime, and video games. I'm in though for more reanimated scenes in video games.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
I pretty adamantly dislike how they draw the characters in all of the new animation so it wouldn't be for me. I really dislike the aesthetics of the vast majority of post 90's anime in general (unless it goes against the grain like Oda's artwork) so I'd probably just cut my losses.
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I like the new animation style. I just don't want retellings of the manga. I'm soooo tired of this.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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No.
Make new animated stories, don't try to fix something that ain't broken.
Make new animated stories, don't try to fix something that ain't broken.
FUNimation 2015 Releases I want:
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
I personally would jump for joy if they did that. I'd love to see the entire Dragon Ball story recreated with updated animation and no filler. Isn't that what they essentially did for FMA and Hunter x Hunter?
Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
NO!
Let it stay as it is.
Let it stay as it is.
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
I would like it just so it could get a proper dub this time around. Even if the new Oolong voice kinda sucks.
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
I can't speak for Hunter x Hunter, but with FMA, they did Brotherhood only because the 1st series was being made as the manga was really just starting, and it ended up divulging from the manga's story very radically.SSJBardock91 wrote:Isn't that what they essentially did for FMA and Hunter x Hunter?
Anyway, no. I wouldn't want to see this just because I think Toei's effort is better spent on new material.
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
I'd much rather have brand-new stories than rehashing past ones. The 2008 special is the only one that's really hit the mark for me in terms of what I'm looking for. The Raging Blast 2 special felt like a rehash (maybe it wouldn't have if I hadn't seen the original?). With Bardock, there wasn't much surprise because the manga came out first so I knew what was going to happen; no fun hypothesizing when you know the plot, however I did think the story worked better in animated form so I do give it that.
Give me something fresh and exciting with the characters I enjoy; don't reveal everything all at once, but let bits and pieces trickle out. I enjoyed theorizing who that other Vegeta-like character was on the poster. I'd like a good marketing campaign that can get me revved up to see the final product.
Give me something fresh and exciting with the characters I enjoy; don't reveal everything all at once, but let bits and pieces trickle out. I enjoyed theorizing who that other Vegeta-like character was on the poster. I'd like a good marketing campaign that can get me revved up to see the final product.
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
If it means an excellent new dub from Funimation, I'm okay with it.
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
This. I really want new movies.dbboxkaifan wrote:No.
Make new animated stories, don't try to fix something that ain't broken.
Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
The Dragon Ball anime pre-Z is pretty much perfect if you ask me. It adapts and reworks a few things, but it never "fills" or "pads" anything. Unlike Z, it really doesn't need a refresher.
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
Yeah, that's kinda what I had in mind.CaBrPi wrote:If it means an excellent new dub from Funimation, I'm okay with it.
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
Only a better dub.B wrote:The Dragon Ball anime pre-Z is pretty much perfect if you ask me. It adapts and reworks a few things, but it never "fills" or "pads" anything. Unlike Z, it really doesn't need a refresher.
Leave it as is it's perfect.
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
Is there any reason why TOEI ANIMATION skipped the Dragon Ball chapters and moved straight to DBZ on Kai?
Wouldn't it do well if the series featured the original DB chapters/anime?
Dragon Ball Kai, being as the title is, should have covered from the original Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z's ending.
Wouldn't it do well if the series featured the original DB chapters/anime?
Dragon Ball Kai, being as the title is, should have covered from the original Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z's ending.
FUNimation 2015 Releases I want:
- Kai 2.0 on Blu-ray
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
It was the 20th anniversary of Z, and Z specifically.dbboxkaifan wrote:Is there any reason why TOEI ANIMATION skipped the Dragon Ball chapters
Also, Z sells more globally.
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
Kai did have a recap of the Dragon Ball series, though.VegettoEX wrote:It was the 20th anniversary of Z, and Z specifically.
Also, Z sells more globally.
If it was for Z-only, then it should've had Dragon Ball Z Kai originally than on FUNi's version only.
It's been said the "Z Kai" was done by TOEI around Daizex forum, is there any proof?
FUNimation 2015 Releases I want:
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Re: If Toei could and did make actual Dragon Ball (no Z) Kai
It's not only on Funimation's version. If I remember correctly, it's on every version except the Japanese.dbboxkaifan wrote:Kai did have a recap of the Dragon Ball series, though.VegettoEX wrote:It was the 20th anniversary of Z, and Z specifically.
Also, Z sells more globally.
If it was for Z-only, then it should've had Dragon Ball Z Kai originally than on FUNi's version only.
It's been said the "Z Kai" was done by TOEI around Daizex forum, is there any proof?
And that's probably because the manga is "Z" just about everywhere but Japan, right? In Japan, "Z" is just the second part to the anime, so when they revised it, they dropped the "Z".
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I don't have any exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure Viz is in the minority on that. I know there are at least a few countries that simply published Dragon Ball 1-42, or 1-34 if they have the Kanzenban.CaBrPi wrote:And that's probably because the manga is "Z" just about everywhere but Japan, right?
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