What exactly is the purpose of YouTube's DBZ 2K HD videos?

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What exactly is the purpose of YouTube's DBZ 2K HD videos?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:45 pm

They don't really look better being in a 2K resolution and those that are from the orange bricks, ugh, so terribly looking PQ.

I honestly don't get the point of those 2K HD videos since their original resolution is either 480 (Orange Bricks) /1080 (Kai).

Since they're trying to "remaster" what's been remastered, they should take a shot at orange bricks then (changing brightness/saturation/colours).
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Re: What exactly is the purpose of YouTube's DBZ 2K HD video

Post by Gonstead » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:18 pm

It's a false HD type of thing. It's simply a number of filters added onto the footage and saved into 1080p, somehow creating 2K HD when in reality that's not even available.

The end result looks shit.

In the end though, it's a way to attract more views.
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Re: What exactly is the purpose of YouTube's DBZ 2K HD video

Post by samuraix123 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:20 pm

I've seen some of them and some of them are so over saturated with color that it looks horrible! but some of the comments below the video would say ''Nice quality bro'' I'm like XD :lol: I love Youtube
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Re: What exactly is the purpose of YouTube's DBZ 2K HD video

Post by Corpsecreate » Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:31 am

Yep, the 2K upscale is a complete waste of time. Not only would they need higher bitrate when encoding the video to avoid macro blocking but most monitors only go as high as 1080p. This would mean that the video would then have to be downscaled by youtube to fit the users screen. So basically your going from 480p -> 2K -> 1080p. Theres no advantage to upscaling to 2K.

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Post by GotenDaisuki » Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:50 am

What boggles me is that people seem to think it's real!
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Re: What exactly is the purpose of YouTube's DBZ 2K HD video

Post by kei17 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:54 am

On YouTube, it seems that "HD" almost means upscaling, horizontally stretching, and saturating the video. :?

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Post by Drew » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:54 am

I've already commented to makers of AMVs that they should use the Dragon Box as their source rather than the Orange Bricks. People complain though, "4:3 isn't HD noob," it gets really annoying after a while. Honestly, it's just a false HD. Upscaling an already poorly done remaster just isn't smart, and the end result shows it.

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Re: What exactly is the purpose of YouTube's DBZ 2K HD video

Post by Krycek7o2 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:11 pm

kei17 wrote:On YouTube, it seems that "HD" almost means upscaling, horizontally stretching, and saturating the video. :?
Don't you dare critique them either, they'll hound you through PM! I once told someone to not force stretch 4x3 to 16x9 but instead crop it. Make it look somewhat nice It went over his head and accused me of raping his family name.

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Re: What exactly is the purpose of YouTube's DBZ 2K HD video

Post by Gonstead » Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:20 pm

Krycek7o2 wrote:
kei17 wrote:On YouTube, it seems that "HD" almost means upscaling, horizontally stretching, and saturating the video. :?
Don't you dare critique them either, they'll hound you through PM! I once told someone to not force stretch 4x3 to 16x9 but instead crop it. Make it look somewhat nice It went over his head and accused me of raping his family name.
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Re: What exactly is the purpose of YouTube's DBZ 2K HD video

Post by samuraix123 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:31 pm

Krycek7o2 wrote:
kei17 wrote:On YouTube, it seems that "HD" almost means upscaling, horizontally stretching, and saturating the video. :?
Don't you dare critique them either, they'll hound you through PM! I once told someone to not force stretch 4x3 to 16x9 but instead crop it. Make it look somewhat nice It went over his head and accused me of raping his family name.
I must see this as well :lol: I remember telling someone that Akira Toriyama is not making Dragonball Hoshi and Hoshi does not exist. I got called a Dumb ass Faggot lol I love Youtube :lol:
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Post by Krycek7o2 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:11 pm

samuraix123 wrote: I must see this as well :lol: I remember telling someone that Akira Toriyama is not making Dragonball Hoshi and Hoshi does not exist. I got called a Dumb ass Faggot lol I love Youtube :lol:
Gonstead wrote: I gotta see this.
I'll check if I still have the PMs on YouTube. This was more than a year ago, so I might not have proof anymore. The person was quite notorious in several DB related forums.

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Re: What exactly is the purpose of YouTube's DBZ 2K HD video

Post by GotenDaisuki » Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:18 pm

samuraix123 wrote:I must see this as well :lol: I remember telling someone that Akira Toriyama is not making Dragonball Hoshi and Hoshi does not exist. I got called a Dumb ass Faggot lol I love Youtube :lol:
Hahah, I made a video explaining why it's fake and people flame it all the time with their "hoshi is so real fag" comments. :lol:

Anyway, I guess peoples' ignorance and the fact that they know nothing about the upscaling and whatnot makes it easy to trick them into thinking it's true 2k. But wow. How ignorant can they be? You can clearly see the horrendous color saturation. People think that looks good!?
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Post by samuraix123 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:18 pm

Krycek7o2 wrote:
samuraix123 wrote: I must see this as well :lol: I remember telling someone that Akira Toriyama is not making Dragonball Hoshi and Hoshi does not exist. I got called a Dumb ass Faggot lol I love Youtube :lol:
Gonstead wrote: I gotta see this.
I'll check if I still have the PMs on YouTube. This was more than a year ago, so I might not have proof anymore. The person was quite notorious in several DB related forums.
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Re: What exactly is the purpose of YouTube's DBZ 2K HD video

Post by Attitudefan » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:30 pm

What is worse is that many of these "2K" videos come from a low quality source from the internet such as a torrent.

Then they flip the video which I hate. I know why they do it but I hate it.

Make your own original videos instead of uploading episodes. Fandub clips are okay to me as they are somewhat "original". Full episodes are not and I would like to see an episode untouched by someone "up-scaling" it.
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Post by Dorexx » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:39 pm

I've seen someone making these "type" of HD videos, over-saturating the over-saturated Orange Brick quality, and demanding money from it's viewers for the knowledge of how to do achieve this quality. :|

It's frightening what people do with DB on Youtube.
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Post by Attitudefan » Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:10 pm

Many times it's not just DB. Indy filmmakers love to crop their videos to simulate the aspect ratio of the cameras used in Hollywood. Then they over use colour grading. It doesn't even look good!
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Post by Silkman3003 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:49 pm

Dorexx wrote:I've seen someone making these "type" of HD videos, over-saturating the over-saturated Orange Brick quality, and demanding money from it's viewers for the knowledge of how to do achieve this quality. :|

It's frightening what people do with DB on Youtube.
You've got to be joking....

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Post by Gonstead » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:52 pm

Dorexx wrote:I've seen someone making these "type" of HD videos, over-saturating the over-saturated Orange Brick quality, and demanding money from it's viewers for the knowledge of how to do achieve this quality. :|

It's frightening what people do with DB on Youtube.
It's their fault if they fall for such a thing. I've got so sympathy for those type of people, they should know better.
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:29 pm

Gonstead wrote:I've got no sympathy for those type of people, they should know better.
Fixed.
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Re: What exactly is the purpose of YouTube's DBZ 2K HD video

Post by GotenDaisuki » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:34 pm

I wonder... Do the people who make these videos even have 2K moniters?
So mondo lame.

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