Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by hleV » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:57 pm

What else could anyone do expect for letting it go?

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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Black Mask » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:19 pm

Actually Thinking it Over More Vegeta Is actually More Of a Intergalactic Terrorist if anything. I mean Arlia's Destruction was Just....Like Wow.

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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Hades » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:34 pm

Black Mask wrote:Actually Thinking it Over More Vegeta Is actually More Of a Intergalactic Terrorist if anything. I mean Arlia's Destruction was Just....Like Wow.
Except, that was filler IIRC.
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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:45 pm

It seem like in Dragon Ball no one cares about death since they just get wish back. I do remember that the nameks were pretty angry at Vegeta that the nameks that he killed never got wish back. It won't surprise me if the people on Namek still don't like Vegeta for what they have done.
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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Bussani » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:56 pm

Black Mask wrote:Yeah But People Seem to Say Vegeta Developed the Most through out the Series But I really Didn't see the change. I mean He purposely Let Himself Be Succumbed To Babidi's Magic.
Vegeta constantly changes over the course of the series. Not always for the better--I mean, Vegeta "developing" doesn't necessarily mean he becomes a stand up guy or anything. But he does go through many changes and has one or two epiphanies. Even your example of him letting Babidi "control" him ends with him sacrificing himself quite selflessly.
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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Rocketman » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:07 pm

Vegeta gets away because the only being strong enough to force him to pay for it doesn't care.

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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Hades » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:15 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:It seem like in Dragon Ball no one cares about death since they just get wish back. I do remember that the nameks were pretty angry at Vegeta that the nameks that he killed never got wish back. It won't surprise me if the people on Namek still don't like Vegeta for what they have done.
IIRC, the Namekians didn't object to vegeta being given the floor during the Buu fight. I mean, they would have asked Dende or Kibitoshin to make the wishes instead, although some would probably still be bitter at Vegeta.
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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Saiga » Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:10 pm

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Piccolo Daimao wrote:Only Tenshinhan seems to. At the beginning of the Cell arc, Tenshinhan openly expressed his dislike for Vegeta and that he was still on Earth because he'd killed them, and was surprised that Yamcha could stand living with him.
Yamucha should be outraged at living with Vegeta, but Tenshinhan and Chaozu essentially committed suicide, so they've got nothing to bitch about.
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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Attitudefan » Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:17 pm

You know, shouldn't they be angry at Nappa and not Vegeta. I mean, Vegeta never actually killed anyone on Earth except for Nappa. Essentially he got revenge for Goku and co..... :|
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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by TripleRach » Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:28 pm

The main cast doesn't seem to care about justice or revenge for past crimes. As long as someone isn't actively hurting people, they don't care. It might be because most of the main characters are former villains themselves, and the ones who aren't (namely Gokuu and Gohan) are too naive and laid-back to make a big deal about it if no one's actively causing trouble. But also what Rocketman said, because most of the characters are too weak to do anything about it even if they wanted to.
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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:45 pm

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Black Mask wrote:Well Vegeta Didn't Kill Ten or the Others Indirectly. I'm taking about Actual Murders Commited By Himself.Nappa, Ginyu Force Members, A few androids and the list goes on.
Why would the Z-warriors be angry about Vegeta killing other antagonists?

As for the rest of his murders, my thoughts can probably be summed up by the "last" episode of the DaizenshuuEX podcast.
Yeah But People Seem to Say Vegeta Developed the Most through out the Series But I really Didn't see the change. I mean He purposely Let Himself Be Succumbed To Babidi's Magic.
The problem being he succumbed to Babidi's magic because he himself realized how much he had changed- or, if you want to take his interpretation, how much of his edge he had lost.
Michsi wrote:Seriously, I'm far more annoyed at them letting Vegeta get away with all the stupid mistakes he made and how they made everything worse.
Thinking about it though, no one is really around to stop any of Vegeta's mistakes except for Trunks (And five stars for him for breaking series precedent).

I do remember Piccolo's having a conniption when he realizes Vegeta was intentionally tormenting middle-form Cell. Particularly funny in the old Funi dub.
Rocketman wrote:Vegeta gets away because the only being strong enough to force him to pay for it doesn't care.
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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Perfect » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:20 pm

If I recall correctly, Vegeta boasts about how he killed that one Namekian village, so they couldn't be wished back. I dunno if it's dub only or not, but he makes sure to include that he killed the children. None of them are antagonists, and Piccolo is quite readily as irritated as the rest of them are, most notably Gohan. Vegeta got away with it, simply put, because he was the strongest one there. Once Piccolo passed him, if he really cared, taking Vegeta out would only worsen their odds against Cell. After Cell, Vegeta became way too strong for someone like Piccolo, plus I'm sure by then he'd have gotten over it.
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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Attitudefan » Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:54 pm

Yup, have an alien kill all your people and in a few years get over it. Sounds legit.

But on the other hand, piccolo never really found himself to be a native Namekian, so I guess he didn't feel too attached.
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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Saiga » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:01 am

Attitudefan wrote:Yup, have an alien kill all your people and in a few years get over it. Sounds legit.

But on the other hand, piccolo never really found himself to be a native Namekian, so I guess he didn't feel too attached.
Not all Piccolo's people, it was one village. Still heinous, but Piccolo's kind of a dick so I'm not surprised if it doesn't bother him so much.
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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Perfect » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:03 am

The reason he's shown to have gotten over it is namely because of his reaction in the Boo arc. He considered Vegeta a "friend" and showed no hard feelings, so Piccolo literally did act like the "bigger man" and got over it. Then again, he'd be a hypocrite if he really held it against him.
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Post by Saiga » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:04 am

Also if he tried something Bulma would murder him.
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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by SylentEcho » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:18 am

Technically he never murdered any good guy on screen. Secondly, things cooled down a lot after he "married" Bulma. Since Kuririn, Roshi and the others are so fond of her, they just accepted him or chose to tolerate having him around.

It's not like they'd hang out with him. He just happened to be there and they were nice enough to not make a fuss about it for Bulma's sake. Goku on the other hand didn't give a hoot. He'd be fine if even Freeza turned over a new leaf and stayed with them. :P

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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Michsi » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:57 am

Michsi wrote:Seriously, I'm far more annoyed at them letting Vegeta get away with all the stupid mistakes he made and how they made everything worse.
Thinking about it though, no one is really around to stop any of Vegeta's mistakes except for Trunks (And five stars for him for breaking series precedent).

I do remember Piccolo's having a conniption when he realizes Vegeta was intentionally tormenting middle-form Cell.
I didn't necessarrily mean at being stopped while he was doing them because in most cases you couldn't, but actively accusing him or saying something to him, warn him or threaten him that the next time he " missbehaves" there will be consequences.

I was thinking how much I would hate Vegeta if I were Gohan, Perfect Cell killed his father and then the one day he comes back, his only chance at spending some time with him for the rest of his life and Vegeta ruins it too.

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Post by Godo » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:40 am

TripleRach wrote:because most of the characters are too weak to do anything about it even if they wanted to.
Take him out in his sleep.
If Goku could succumb to a heart virus, they could throw some sleeping pills into Vegeta's food. Then, when he has gulped all his food and went to bed because of feeling sleepy, they could get their revenge. Vegeta's death is imminent.

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Re: Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

Post by Dorexx » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:16 am

He killed that innocent truck driver while fighting 18. I used to wonder if they ever wished that poor man back, but I guess they probably didn't. That was an awesome moment tho to see Vegeta still being so evil.

As for the bad people he killed, they deserved it.
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