Goku,Gohan reached limits in Base and SSJ in Time Chamber

[Super Vegetto]

Goku wants to fight Oob before they get tired, that's all.

Because he thinks Uub on world tournament is Kid buu in powers before he realized diffrent.

[Bussani]

Why he neads 100% stamina if he is all mighy without transforming ? You do relize his stamina gets bigger with transformation because body is taking transformation diffrently.

Uh, no, I don't realize that. Stamina is how long you can fight for, and if anything, Super Saiyan 3 has greatly reduced the stamina of everyone we've ever seen use it. It shortened Goku's time left on Earth, it shortened Gotenks' fusion time, and it caused Goku to waste all his ki before he could build up enough power for his final attack. Maybe he overcame this weakness in the years after Buu, but saying that would be another assumption.

Also, I never said he was all mighty. Where does that come from? Like I already said, no limits doesn't mean he has to become a god after a few years have passed. A few years passed after the 23rd world tournament and he barely grew at all, despite the fact that he hadn't reached his limits yet.

Its stated they reached limit before Cell games so its your word vs manga word. I'm going by what is stated and not what others stated for now.

I'm not even saying you can't believe that. That's a valid opinion. It's the translation you've been using that I've been finding fault with, mostly. I'm not trying to change what you believe; I'm just saying I don't necessarily agree with it.

[Super Vegetto]

Why he neads 100% stamina if he is all mighy without transforming ? You do relize his stamina gets bigger with transformation because body is taking transformation diffrently.

Uh, no, I don't realize that. Stamina is how long you can fight for, and if anything, Super Saiyan 3 has greatly reduced the stamina of everyone we've ever seen use it. It shortened Goku's time left on Earth, it shortened Gotenks' fusion time, and it caused Goku to waste all his ki before he could build up enough power for his final attack. Maybe he overcame this weakness in the years after Buu, but saying that would be another assumption.

Also, I never said he was all mighty. Where does that come from? Like I already said, no limits doesn't mean he has to become a god after a few years have passed. A few years passed after the 23rd world tournament and he barely grew at all, despite the fact that he hadn't reached his limits yet.

Its stated they reached limit before Cell games so its your word vs manga word. I'm going by what is stated and not what others stated for now.

I'm not even saying you can't believe that. That's a valid opinion. It's the translation you've been using that I've been finding fault with, mostly. I'm not trying to change what you believe; I'm just saying I don't necessarily agree with it.

I call it FPSSJ3. Same as FPSSJ in Cell saga. Point in this form is not muscles that are neaded for that power to hold, but its stamina which goes dramaticly because of not mastering it. I belive he mastered it to put less strain but not complitly, but who knows.

Well ofc that peoples wont agree with every fact i use. Its what you decide and not what someone tells you to.