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Super Vegetto
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by Super Vegetto » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:47 am
Perfect wrote:Super Vegetto wrote:Frieza in 100% is full power. Frieza because of damage is way his stamina is getting lower by every atk SSJ Goku does and why he puts strain on his body which is result of beeing buff. Body cant take that much power so muscles become bigger to actualy take that much power. Btw this was suposed to be last fight in dbz so its logicly that fight should be long even if there is 30mill gap.
I have no idea what you're talking about, but nothing states that was so supposed to be the last fight.
Goku originaly died on Namek after defeating Frieza. You do realize AT whanted manga to end where Goku achives legendary transformation and after defeating universe tyrant he dies on Namek so that transforamtion doesnt become joke like it becomed in Buu saga.
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by Fox666 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:43 am
That's false. Toriyama never mentioned such a thing. In fact Goku is revealed to be alive only 2 chapters after his apparent "death".
As much Dragon Ball may appear to reached its climax at that point, there is no proof it was meant to end there.
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by FNF » Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:56 am
Super Vegetto, read up more about DB bro.
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Super Vegetto
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by Super Vegetto » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:06 am
Fox666 wrote:That's false. Toriyama never mentioned such a thing. In fact Goku is revealed to be alive only 2 chapters after his apparent "death".
As much Dragon Ball may appear to reached its climax at that point, there is no proof it was meant to end there.
So when did story actualy stoped ? Before Future Trunks arrived or ?
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by Saiga » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:11 am
Super Vegetto wrote:Fox666 wrote:That's false. Toriyama never mentioned such a thing. In fact Goku is revealed to be alive only 2 chapters after his apparent "death".
As much Dragon Ball may appear to reached its climax at that point, there is no proof it was meant to end there.
So when did story actualy stoped ? Before Future Trunks arrived or ?
It stopped after Goku left with Oob.
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by Super Vegetto » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:14 am
Saiga wrote:Super Vegetto wrote:Fox666 wrote:That's false. Toriyama never mentioned such a thing. In fact Goku is revealed to be alive only 2 chapters after his apparent "death".
As much Dragon Ball may appear to reached its climax at that point, there is no proof it was meant to end there.
So when did story actualy stoped ? Before Future Trunks arrived or ?
It stopped after Goku left with Oob.
After Gohan killd Cell next chapter is Gohan goes to highscool. What time did he started to relise Buu saga chapers ? How long after Cell games ?
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by hleV » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:20 am
DB chapters were coming out weekly, so Boo arc probably started a week or two after Cell arc ended.
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by Super Vegetto » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:29 am
hleV wrote:DB chapters were coming out weekly, so Boo arc probably started a week or two after Cell arc ended.
Lol i didnt knowed that. Well tnx for info.
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by Bussani » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:47 pm
Perfect wrote:Maybe, but if Goku did really put "everything he had", then he wouldn't have been able to have his final round with Cell before conceding defeat. He was still able to fire chi blasts, but he wasn't even on par with any of the Cell Juniors, and is credited by his comrades as weakened.
See, we don't even see "putting everything he had" into an attack the same way. We can't agree on the big things because we interpret the little things so differently. I didn't mean that Goku used up all of his stamina in that attack--I meant he put all the power he could muster into it. Again with the running analogy, it would be like if I sprinted with everything I had and wore myself out; I might still be able to run afterwards, but not at full speed.
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by Drayenko » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:43 pm
Super Vegetto wrote:hleV wrote:DB chapters were coming out weekly, so Boo arc probably started a week or two after Cell arc ended.
Lol i didnt knowed that. Well tnx for info.
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by Gabool The Wild » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:15 pm
In regards to the power levels, I think they make sense. I agree with the "adrenaline rush" effect that SSJ had on Goku. I also think that Freeza powering up to %100 probably had similar effects. This is because that sheer amount of power Freeza produced probably shocked his body and gave him the energy to continue fighting. It might also be important to note that Freeza can survive very traumatizing situations, so he probably wasn't anywhere near as worn as Goku was even after taking a Genki Dama to the face.
One other thing I'd note is that you have to remember how pissed off Freeza was at that moment. After spending years as the most powerful being in the universe, the one thing he hates the most is standing in his way. If that's not incentive to get up even when you're on your last leg, then I don't know what is. I'd say the power levels match up rather well.
Freeza's tail grew back after transforming. Maybe jolting up to %100 had similar effects by healing him and giving him the power to at least go on for a bit longer. It wasn't a transformation, but maybe it worked like that to some extent.
I also believe the power levels are accurate since the fight in the manga is short, and it's obvious that Goku has the upper hand. 120 million sounds like it can hold up to 150 million, if only for a brief amount of time- and that's exactly what happens.
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by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:56 am
Super Vegetto wrote:Perfect wrote:Super Vegetto wrote:Frieza in 100% is full power. Frieza because of damage is way his stamina is getting lower by every atk SSJ Goku does and why he puts strain on his body which is result of beeing buff. Body cant take that much power so muscles become bigger to actualy take that much power. Btw this was suposed to be last fight in dbz so its logicly that fight should be long even if there is 30mill gap.
I have no idea what you're talking about, but nothing states that was so supposed to be the last fight.
Goku originaly died on Namek after defeating Frieza. You do realize AT whanted manga to end where Goku achives legendary transformation and after defeating universe tyrant he dies on Namek so that transforamtion doesnt become joke like it becomed in Buu saga.
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