Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Zionist » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:52 pm

Hades wrote:Yeah, at least it isn't anywhere near as Liefeldian as the Bojack Special.
That special doesn't exist -_- It never happened
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:29 pm

The Bojack special was awful. I think the Gast and Bardock specials are my favorite so far.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:34 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:The Bojack special was awful. I think the Gast and Bardock specials are my favorite so far.
I agree. I also liked the second Broli special. I hope this one will be good, and not a piece of shit like most of them.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:06 am

The Cell special was not that bad neither. I'm looking forward how this special will turn out and I hear it's short too. I guess people will stop bitching about how the long specials are.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:20 am

I like how suddenly everyone is saying now that they enjoyed nearly every special, funny how you go back with your word after a while.

I still say they were all slow paced, boring and stupid. Even the ones that seemed interesting had shitty art and a boring and predictable plot.

By the way, this one is already six pages long and the plot hasn't progressed much.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Rukura » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:39 am

DNA wrote:I like how suddenly everyone is saying now that they enjoyed nearly every special, funny how you go back with your word after a while.
I still hate every special up to this point (story, art and/or both) except the Bardock and Gast ones. And even in the Bardock special, the art lacked a lot of the detail we see in the regular Multiverse chapters, not to mention the POOR attempt at Goku's mother with Naruto-style design and a name with no connection to the pre-established naming scheme.

Kinda suprised by the art in this title page, but it already seems like they don't have much invested in this one since they didn't bother to make it a color page.
DNA wrote:By the way, this one is already six pages long and the plot hasn't progressed much.
......all the remaining interest in this chapter is now gone.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:46 am

DNA wrote:By the way, this one is already six pages long and the plot hasn't progressed much.
On which chapter are you talking about?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:26 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
DNA wrote:By the way, this one is already six pages long and the plot hasn't progressed much.
On which chapter are you talking about?
The current one.
All that's happened is what anyone with half a brain can already predict, like every single special chapter so far. This is the main reason that makes me dislike the special chapters, all they do is show what already is painfully obvious. "In Bojack's universe he killed everyone and won!" Yeah no shit

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:37 pm

DNA wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
DNA wrote:By the way, this one is already six pages long and the plot hasn't progressed much.
On which chapter are you talking about?
The current one.
But we haven't seen six pages yet.
DNA wrote:All that's happened is what anyone with half a brain can already predict, like every single special chapter so far. This is the main reason that makes me dislike the special chapters, all they do is show what already is painfully obvious. "In Bojack's universe he killed everyone and won!" Yeah no shit
Yeah, I agree. It's very annoying.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:42 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:But we haven't seen six pages yet.
Yes, you haven't, I never said you did. I'm part of the Portuguese translating team. The translating teams have access to pages long before they're released to the public.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:23 pm

DNA wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:But we haven't seen six pages yet.
Yes, you haven't, I never said you did. I'm part of the Portuguese translating team. The translating teams have access to pages long before they're released to the public.
Is the art at least consistent throughout? If there's one thing about the specials that bugs me is the art. Sometimes it gets really wonky after a while.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:29 pm

Scarz wrote:Is the art at least consistent throughout? If there's one thing about the specials that bugs me is the art. Sometimes it gets really wonky after a while.
I'll leave that for you to decide, you probably have a better eye for that than I do. Also I can't say I'm paying much attention to it at all.

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Post by Scarz » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:31 pm

DNA wrote:
Scarz wrote:Is the art at least consistent throughout? If there's one thing about the specials that bugs me is the art. Sometimes it gets really wonky after a while.
I'll leave that for you to decide, you probably have a better eye for that than I do. Also I can't say I'm paying much attention to it at all.
Alright, I'll wait until the the first page is out. Can't really judge much by the cover you know.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:15 pm

Image
5 million years ago... pc computer on the desk. WTF.
The art is very detailed and I really like it. Well, at least I now know that the art won't be the problem with this special.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by SuppaSaiyanNerd » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:40 pm

"Five millions years ago". The translation... it's so beautiful. :cry:

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:54 pm

Scarz wrote:The art is very detailed and I really like it. Well, at least I now know that the art won't be the problem with this special.
Yeah, I didn't think it would, but I didn't want to influence your opinion and let your trained eye do the comparisons. The art is not bad, not very Dragon Ball'ish but not bad at all. The special itself, like I said many times, it's the usual straightforward predictable plot, up until now at least, but again, like I said, I very much doubt there will be anything surprising.
SuppaSaiyanNerd wrote:"Five millions years ago". The translation... it's so beautiful.
The translations are the usual crap. I have no clue who composes the English team, it used to be Salagir himself, but I think he got someone else in charge. I tried to up the ante on the Portuguese translation, first I had the Brazilians complaining it was "too hard for them to understand", luckily they've got their own simplified version now; then one member of the team is very rude and stubborn and keeps altering what the other members do, sometimes to nonsensical censured versions of the original. I tried arguing and in the end I just couldn't be bothered anymore. There's no real quality control for the translations. I did find the whole ordeal insulting, since I was the one who pioneered the correct and accurate translations for the Portuguese version. Nowadays I just go there and check the new pages, sometimes discussing them with rereboy, one of the other team members, and sometimes, albeit very rarely, giving him some guidance.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:39 pm

Yes! I always thought that Boo was originally born from the Ball that he was sealed later. It's obvious that this story didn't happen in Universe 18 (and the rest related to it), since Kaioshin said that Bibidi created Majin Boo by accident, while here Bibidi created Boo because he wanted to.
5 million years ago... pc computer on the desk. WTF.
Well, this isn't Earth.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Hades » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:49 pm

One thing I never understood. How can you create the ultimate mass murderer by accident?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:12 pm

Hades wrote:One thing I never understood. How can you create the ultimate mass murderer by accident?
Through magical experimentation. Duh. :wink:
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:25 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Hades wrote:One thing I never understood. How can you create the ultimate mass murderer by accident?
Through magical experimentation. Duh. :wink:
Wasn't that how Hitler was created?

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