Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again

[VegettoEX]

We don't have an ETA for it. Trust me... you'll all kinda know when it's announced and in preparation.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Will articles about Toriyama's other works be allowed? Not talking about 1000 articles about a manga & it's characters, just a page with a summary & some character info for example.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Will articles about Toriyama's other works be allowed? Not talking about 1000 articles about a manga & it's characters, just a page with a summary & some character info for example.

I think there must at least be some background info on Dr. Slump, since Toriyama dedicated, like, two chapters to a crossover between the two series, and in that chapter, there are some little inside jokes that you wouldn't get if you knew nothing about Dr. Slump and its characters.

Perhaps there should be some on Neko Majin too, since it's closely liked to DB due to its Saiyan-inspired characters and direct cameos from the DB cast themselves. And maybe Cross Epoch too.

But other than that, I don't think they should, if they have nothing to do with DB. It's meant to be a Dragon Ball wiki, not a Toriyama wiki. And besides, if we start putting up articles for Sand Land and Kajika, people will start saying, "Well, if there are articles for that, then why not his one-shots? And Dragon Quest? Chrono Trigger? Blue Dragon?" You've got to draw the line somewhere.

[Nex Carnifex]

Maybe they can be mentioned on Toriyama's article but they only need a page if they are directly connected to what the wiki is about

[DNA]

By the way guys, I believe it is best to not have pages specific for future versions of characters. Like the anime and manga versions, they should just be components of the main page of that character. Including Trunks.

[Nex Carnifex]

By the way guys, I believe it is best to not have pages specific for future versions of characters. Like the anime and manga versions, they should just be components of the main page of that character. Including Trunks.

You mean like Kid Trunks and Future Trunk get the same page? But they are like different characters altogether

[DNA]

By the way guys, I believe it is best to not have pages specific for future versions of characters. Like the anime and manga versions, they should just be components of the main page of that character. Including Trunks.

You mean like Kid Trunks and Future Trunk get the same page? But they are like different characters altogether

But in-universe they are the same person. Go to the current wikia and research for future characters, there are so many pages about "future" everyone that it's simply retarded. Besides, when you think about it, you don't have a Trunks from the present and a Trunks from the future, you simply have Trunks from two different timelines. When you reach GT, the "future" is the "present", if you know what I mean.

I think there should be one page for each character, disregarding the fact that they are from the manga, anime, alternate timelines between the two, games, whatever.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I can agree with most of that, but Trunks at the very least deserves separate pages for his "future" and "present" counterparts. Even in-universe, they are two very different characters in almost every aspect except their genetics/appearance (and even then Future Trunks doesn't really resemble "Present" Trunks as an adult due to the changing art styles).

[Piccolo Daimao]

I can agree with most of that, but Trunks at the very least deserves separate pages for his "future" and "present" counterparts. Even in-universe, they are two very different characters in almost every aspect except their genetics/appearance (and even then Future Trunks doesn't really resemble "Present" Trunks as an adult due to the changing art styles).

Yeah. And mentioning that the Dragon Ball wiki has seperate pages for unimportant "future" versions of characters such as Piccolo and Vegeta is somewhat amusing, because that's exactly what we're against.

Fact of the matter is that future Trunks and present Trunks are different characters, with different personalities, backstories and character arcs. Apart from genetics/appearance, the only thing the two have in common is their sword, but even then, that's only from a movie that's not even canon to the manga.

If we had one page simply titled "Trunks", do you know how hard and cluttered it would be, trying to cram all that information onto one article, that designed to not confuse newcomers or people that just want to know more about some of the characters?

[DNA]

I can agree with most of that, but Trunks at the very least deserves separate pages for his "future" and "present" counterparts. Even in-universe, they are two very different characters in almost every aspect except their genetics/appearance (and even then Future Trunks doesn't really resemble "Present" Trunks as an adult due to the changing art styles).

Okay, should we then extend that rule only for Trunks and Gohan?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

As I said before, Trunks needs different pages for sure. I guess the only other characters that might warrant "future" and "present" pages are Gohan, 17, 18 and maybe Bulma...whatever we all decide upon. Everyone else can just get a subsection in their pages that details the little we know about what they did in Trunks' timeline.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I can agree with most of that, but Trunks at the very least deserves separate pages for his "future" and "present" counterparts. Even in-universe, they are two very different characters in almost every aspect except their genetics/appearance (and even then Future Trunks doesn't really resemble "Present" Trunks as an adult due to the changing art styles).

Okay, should we then extend that rule only for Trunks and Gohan?

Trunks is a definite, but I'm not entirely sure about characters such as Gohan, #17, #18, Cell and Blooma. Is there that much to say about them that there's a need to devote an entire page to them, unlike Trunks, who became an important main character in the Cell arc? I guess we'll just decide when we come to it.

[DNA]

Trunks is a definite, but I'm not entirely sure about characters such as Gohan, #17, #18, Cell and Blooma. Is there that much to say about them that there's a need to devote an entire page to them, unlike Trunks, who became an important main character in the Cell arc? I guess we'll just decide when we come to it.

Well, the same rules that apply to Trunks apply to at least Gohan and Blooma, I mean, different personalities, looks, background, the three of them apply. I'm not sure about 17 and 18 since the only difference is that they are more evil and less powerful. Why devote a full page to them?

[hleV]

What's so wrong with additional pages?

[Piccolo Daimao]

Trunks is a definite, but I'm not entirely sure about characters such as Gohan, #17, #18, Cell and Blooma. Is there that much to say about them that there's a need to devote an entire page to them, unlike Trunks, who became an important main character in the Cell arc? I guess we'll just decide when we come to it.

Well, the same rules that apply to Trunks apply to at least Gohan and Blooma, I mean, different personalities, looks, background, the three of them apply. I'm not sure about 17 and 18 since the only difference is that they are more evil and less powerful. Why devote a full page to them?

No, because Trunks has more of a presence in the actual story than Gohan and Blooma. I just don't think there's that much to say about them. Same with Blooma. She does nothing but build the time machine, and she looks older, but there's no need to even devote more than a sentence to explaining that.

I agree with you on #17 and #18. The other difference is that they killed all the Z-Warriors but Trunks and destroyed his future, but, again, there's no need to even devote more than, at most, a paragraph to that.

But I'll leave it up to the staff to decide...

What's so wrong with additional pages?

A neat and concise wiki with minimal clutter is our preference.

[DNA]

What's so wrong with additional pages?

The current wikia is what's so wrong with additional pages. They've got a page for every character, every race, every planet, every attack, every everything. Full pages with one sentence. It's idiotic.

[Nex Carnifex]

By the way guys, I believe it is best to not have pages specific for future versions of characters. Like the anime and manga versions, they should just be components of the main page of that character. Including Trunks.

You mean like Kid Trunks and Future Trunk get the same page? But they are like different characters altogether

But in-universe they are the same person. Go to the current wikia and research for future characters, there are so many pages about "future" everyone that it's simply retarded. Besides, when you think about it, you don't have a Trunks from the present and a Trunks from the future, you simply have Trunks from two different timelines. When you reach GT, the "future" is the "present", if you know what I mean.

I think there should be one page for each character, disregarding the fact that they are from the manga, anime, alternate timelines between the two, games, whatever.

Significant alternate timeline characters should get different pages, Future Trunks and Future Gohan correspond accordingly, however GT characters are simply direct continuations of previous characters along the same timeline, so the (normal) Trunks page would have a section called "Trunks in GT", however mixing in Future Trunks with that will obvious get way to confusing, since his story is completely separate. Extremely minor characters like Future Bulma don't deserve a page of their own, whether or not they are deserving should be judged based on their role in the story and how much they differ from normal. Alternate universe 18 and 17 don't differ from their normal selves so it wouldn't make sense for them to have their own pages.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Just Future Trunks & Gohan I believe is enough. There is not much to say about Bluma, #17 & #18, or anyone else.

Also, what are we going to do with characters (like Piccolo) that have roles in both GT & DBO? It's well known that GT & DBO do not belong in the same continuity, since GT is a continuation of the anime, while DBO is a continuation of the manga.

[Gaffer Tape]

I would think Trunks would be the only character that would need two pages. He's the only alternate future character who is a main character, who comes to and interacts with our timeline... well, aside from Cell, but since that's the only Cell with a major role, the point is moot. Gohan, Blooma, etc., have none of those traits. They're different people, just like Trunks, but they're barely featured as characters. Lest anyone forget, Future Gohan only appears in one chapter of the manga and only slightly more in the anime. Future Blooma appears in three I believe, and one of those appearances is so small and insignificant, her face is barely drawn in. Meanwhile, we have two different Trunks characters taking up space at the same time, same place for an entire story arc, and they are both main characters with extremely divergent roles.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Also, what are we going to do with characters (like Piccolo) that have roles in both GT & DBO? It's well known that GT & DBO do not belong in the same continuity, since GT is a continuation of the anime, while DBO is a continuation of the manga.

Just detail the events in different sections like we would the movies...