Not really. Vegeta used it against Gohan as an Oozaru. Freeza also his own homming version. Additionally, later No.18 and Goku also used it in the Boo saga. Overall it doesn't seems to be a technique that hard to learn.Majin Boo wrote:Is the "Kienzan" really from Kuririn? I forget if Goku did, but I'm pretty sure Vegeta used something just like it, and Freeza definitely did.
What if Roshi's Mafūba didn't miss?
Re: What if Roshi's Mafūba didn't miss?
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Re: What if Roshi's Mafūba didn't miss?
According to my timeline, Goku would have been killed by Vegeta. With Goku already dead, why would Dr. Gero need to awaken any of the Jinzo-ningen, let alone finish developing them? Plus, with Goku dead, Piccolo sealed away, Vegeta off-world, and Freeza and King Cold defeated by the newly immortal Vegeta, how could Dr. Gero collect all the cells he needed to create Cell? Also, since there would be no Trunks, it makes sense to assume that there would be no capsule Time Machine. Hence, when Cell is finished growing in the future, there would be no way for him to return to the past. Additionally, as the future of Earth would be wildly different anyway (read the later parts of my scenario), who's to say that he wasn't destroyed in his embryonic state by someone or something else?Hellspawn28 wrote:I think #17 and #18 would still have been made since Dr. Gero wanted revenge on Goku. I think they would have been weaker but Goku and the others could still defeated them if Goku and the others don't killed by Radditz. Cell would be a lot weaker too due to him not having cells of Nappa, Vegeta, Freeza and King Cold.Tekkaman-James wrote: There would be no Super Saiya-jins. Trunks would never be born. The androids would never need to be created and/or awakened.
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Re: What if Roshi's Mafūba didn't miss?
Dr. Gero started his Artificial Human project before he knew of Goku, and he would still desire to conquer the world. So I think he would still built No.17, 18 and the others.
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Re: What if Roshi's Mafūba didn't miss?
He started the project before he knew Goku, but he only created #'s 16-20 (and 13-15, if you want to canonize that movie) AFTER Goku destroyed the Red Ribbon Army. Dr. Gero even says that he created his "androids" to get revenge on Goku. Ergo, if Goku is already dead, why would Dr. Gero even bother?Fox666 wrote:Dr. Gero started his Artificial Human project before he knew of Goku, and he would still desire to conquer the world. So I think he would still built No.17, 18 and the others.
Regardless, even if Dr. Gero decided to awaken the Jinzo-ningen regardless of Goku's demise, he would only hold dominion over Earth until Babidi showed up and awakened Buu.
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Re: What if Roshi's Mafūba didn't miss?
Like the Daizenshuu says, in Trunks's future there wasn't enough life to revive Majin Boo so Babidi moved to another planet.
Nevertheless, if I remember correctly we are talking about Goku dying when Raditz arrived. At this point Dr. Gero would already be very advanced in his project, since this is 6 years before the Androids saga. And the Makankousappou killing Goku, or he spending a whole year in Yadrat didn't stopped Dr. Gero.
Nevertheless, if I remember correctly we are talking about Goku dying when Raditz arrived. At this point Dr. Gero would already be very advanced in his project, since this is 6 years before the Androids saga. And the Makankousappou killing Goku, or he spending a whole year in Yadrat didn't stopped Dr. Gero.