Turtle School Style? What?!

[SHINOBI-03]

This thing kinda bugged me during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai. Muten Roshi said that Chichi's fighting style was close to the Turtle style.... Umm.... on what basis?!

Because as we all know, we didn't see any unique fighting style associated with the Turtle School. Roshi didn't even teach any technique to Goku nor Kuririn when they were training with him. Not even the Kamehameha that they learnt just by watching. They just trained their bodies and the rest was self taught. So, how does he know if a style was close to his if he didn't have a fighting style to teach in the first place?

[Fox666]

Her fighting style reminds me of Tenshinhan

[Bussani]

Well, he did ask Goku and Kuririn first how much experience they had with martial arts. Maybe he would have had a style to teach them if they'd been complete beginners? In fact, since Goku learned his basics from Gohan, who learned from Kame-sennin, maybe Goku used the "turtle style" from the start?

That said, it does seem to go against his whole "go out and figure out how to put the basics you've been taught into practice; that is kenpou'" thing.

[Michsi]

Yeah I would say Goku learned the turtle style from his grandfather the same way Chichi learned it from her father. As to what sets these fighting styles apart from one another? Basically nothing from the out of universe perspective aside from a few signature moves. I suppose that would require more detail work than the author was willing put into it. It's like the characters being able to distinguish between, say Bulma and Videl , though they have pretty much the same face, eyes and everything.

[the_abberration]

Chi Chi probably was using whatever style (or something similar to), her father developed under Roshi. His comment most likely stemmed from that, since Roshi trained Ox-King.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Yeah, Chi-Chi was presumably trained under Gyuumao, who was trained by Kame-sennin, who would've been able to notice the subtleties of his own fighting style, which I suppose you can't show entirely well on paper. Not to mention the possibility of Kame-sennin adapting the "Turtle School style" or something like that when he trained Kuririn and Yamcha, the former probably taking a more active role this time in fighting, since he'd already been through the whole "milk run/fend off bees/swim away from sharks" regime and was now "blazing his own trail", which may include sparring with Kame-sennin on even matters (as in, more fighter-to-fighter or something like that, than mentor-to-student).

[Hitiro]

Some schools of martial arts have different branches of combat too. There are some schools which, once the students have learnt from their master, go off and develop that school of martial arts further so if you took the two original students they may have two completely different styles to each other when they are masters. The original school teachings will be there and a master who is familiar with that fighting style will pick up on this. It just really depends on the persons preferences really, they can focus on a specific aspect of a martial arts style and develop that further because it works for their body type or style as a fighter. Basically, the students that become masters in their own right will not have the same fighting styles as each other in the end apart from their original teachings as a basis for their own unique style which will be passed on to their pupils. A fine example of this is Roshi and Shen, they were both taught under Mutaito yet they ended up with their own unique styles, this is also one of the reasons why martial arts has been kept alive and evolved all of these years

[peter291]

In the Red Ribbon arc Karin tells Goku sth like "Judging by the way you move, I guess Muten Roshi is a teacher of yours" [that's my own translation from polish into english]. That's interesting, Karin met Kamesennin 300 years earlier and is able to easily recognize his fighting style. Hmm, hard to tell when Goku possessed this turtle style. As you said, Roshi just implemented a physical training to Goku and Kuririn.

[the_abberration]

Karin probably noticed movements Goku made (that we, the audience can't differentiate), to come to that conclusion. I'm currently watching FOTNS, and Ken's style is supposedly over 2,000 years old. And even after an apocalypse, there are people who are aware of the style. Also with all the different styles each of the characters use (that look the same to me most times), they are able to tell what each style is.

While Roshi may have had Goku and Krillin perform physical tasks, maybe those movements were part of the Turtle Hermit style. It kind of reminds me of this scene here. We just didn't get to see it spelled out to us in that manner.

Sweep the leg Johnny!

[SHINOBI-03]

While Roshi may have had Goku and Krillin perform physical tasks, maybe those movements were part of the Turtle Hermit style. It kind of reminds me of this scene here. We just didn't get to see it spelled out to us in that manner.

Roshi didn't pull a Miyagi/Han and say the task taught this move. Even in an older example like Drunken Master, So Hai trained Freddy's body at first and when he saw him ready, he taught him the Drunken Style moves. In Dragon Ball, they just trained their bodies and nothing else.

[Hitiro]

While Roshi may have had Goku and Krillin perform physical tasks, maybe those movements were part of the Turtle Hermit style. It kind of reminds me of this scene here. We just didn't get to see it spelled out to us in that manner.

Roshi didn't pull a Miyagi/Han and say the task taught this move. Even in an older example like Drunken Master, So Hai trained Freddy's body at first and when he saw him ready, he taught him the Drunken Style moves. In Dragon Ball, they just trained their bodies and nothing else.

Did Roshi really not pull a Miyagi? In my translation of the Dragonball manga just after Goku and Krillin moved that very large rock Roshi says: "All the basics of the kame-sennin school of martial arts are incorporated within the training that you've been doing every day these past seven months."

[SHINOBI-03]

Did Roshi really not pull a Miyagi? In my translation of the Dragonball manga just after Goku and Krillin moved that very large rock Roshi says: "All the basics of the kame-sennin school of martial arts are incorporated within the training that you've been doing every day these past seven months."

He told them that, yes. But as mentioned, he didn't say something like "plowing the ground with your bare hands taught you jabbing" or anything like this. He didn't ask them to do something like it's an attack the same way as Miyagi in the clip posted by the_abberration.

[the_abberration]

Did Roshi really not pull a Miyagi? In my translation of the Dragonball manga just after Goku and Krillin moved that very large rock Roshi says: "All the basics of the kame-sennin school of martial arts are incorporated within the training that you've been doing every day these past seven months."

He told them that, yes. But as mentioned, he didn't say something like "plowing the ground with your bare hands taught you jabbing" or anything like this. He didn't ask them to do something like it's an attack the same way as Miyagi in the clip posted by the_abberration.

Which is why I said we didn't get it spelled out to us in that manner (as in great detail).

I believe Roshi's comment of "All the basics of the Kame-sennin school of martial arts are incorporated within the training that you've been doing every day these past seven months.", after they moved the rock, may have been something to make the audience think that similar to what Myagi does (assuming if Mr. Toriyama had that in mind as inspiration for the training scene at least), without actually being overt and spelling it out by saying: "Plowing the ground with your bare hands taught you jabbing.", or how Miyagi spells it out for Daniel. Unlike Daniel, having some experience with martial arts, Goku and Krillin probably got the point quicker without so much detail.

[Kendamu]

In the Red Ribbon arc Karin tells Goku sth like "Judging by the way you move, I guess Muten Roshi is a teacher of yours" [that's my own translation from polish into english]. That's interesting, Karin met Kamesennin 300 years earlier and is able to easily recognize his fighting style. Hmm, hard to tell when Goku possessed this turtle style. As you said, Roshi just implemented a physical training to Goku and Kuririn.

Son Gohan (Grandpa) was taught martial arts by Kamesen'nin. Gohan then taught Goku martial arts.

[B]

I always thought "style" was just a vague way of telling the audience how Goku fights. I assumed Toriyama had some idea of how different martial arts worked and drew accordingly.

[son veku]

This thing kinda bugged me during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai. Muten Roshi said that Chichi's fighting style was close to the Turtle style.... Umm.... on what basis?!

Because as we all know, we didn't see any unique fighting style associated with the Turtle School. Roshi didn't even teach any technique to Goku nor Kuririn when they were training with him. Not even the Kamehameha that they learnt just by watching. They just trained their bodies and the rest was self taught. So, how does he know if a style was close to his if he didn't have a fighting style to teach in the first place?

I think he just didn't teach Goku more than the basic's ,but I think Son Gohan was his student for much longer so he learned it.
I assumed that since Goku was so strong Roushi didn't think he needed to teach him anymore.