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Re: Dragon Ball Sparking! Omega announced for PS3 and 360

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat May 19, 2012 1:57 pm

So every hope is now lost... :(
Darn, I really don't want the DBZ For Kinect to be the main game of this year!
Also, shouldn't the title note now that it was fake?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by ChahikoDBZ » Sat May 19, 2012 2:02 pm

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ChahikoDBZ wrote:We need someone to translate what he says about the Dragon Ball themed pages.
Not really. The only one he stops and shows (and even talks about) is related to Dragon Ball Heroes.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat May 19, 2012 2:05 pm

There's 1% (maybe more) of this being real and the rest of being a fraud, I don't really expect much from Spike but another BT/RB game? It's possible.

You guys shouldn't really have brought up such high expectations 'cos now you Spike fans feel quite disappointed.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat May 19, 2012 2:11 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:You guys shouldn't really have brought up such high expectations 'cos now you Spike fans feel quite disappointed.
From Spike, I've only played Sparking! METEOR on Wii, and Raging Blast 2 on PS3, and I was very pleased from both of them. So, I really hoped that Sparking! OMEGA was real.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by JeffJarrett » Sat May 19, 2012 2:18 pm

Here is what appears in most Japanese website/blogs announcing the game:
Vジャンフラゲ来たね

PS3/XBOX360
ドラゴンボール スパーキングOMEGA
原点にして頂点
スパーキングシリーズの最終形態 登場キャラは過去最多
超4悟空と超4ベジータがいる
今冬発売予定

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat May 19, 2012 2:20 pm

Bing Translator wrote:
I came to V ジャンフラゲ

PS3/Xbox360
Dragon Ball sparking OMEGA
Vertex's origin
Past the last form appeared character of the spark series is most
Super 4 is Goku and Vegeta 4 Ultra
On sale this winter
But without scans or actual proof this remains as a rumour.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat May 19, 2012 2:43 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote: You guys shouldn't really have brought up such high expectations 'cos now you Spike fans feel quite disappointed.
Who knows? Spike could finally give us something good after three lackluster games.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat May 19, 2012 2:56 pm

Budokai Tenkaichi 1
Budokai Tenkaichi 2
Budokai Tenkaichi 3
Raging Blast 1
Raging Blast 2
Tenkaichi Tag Team
Ultimate Tenkaichi

Plus all the other non-DB Spike games haven't been anything amazing. But who knows, there might be the day Spike finally produces a decent DBZ game.
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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Sat May 19, 2012 3:09 pm

I didn't feel the need to point this out because Bandai Namco has been very weird in their naming schemes for Dragon Ball games this generation, but the "rumor" for Sparking Omega had the game's title written out as:

ドラゴンボール スパーキングOMEGA (Dragon Ball Sparking! Omega)

However, previous games in this series by Spike were written out in Japanese as:

ドラゴンボールZ Sparking! (Dragon Ball Z Sparking!)

While it's true that the game's logos did have a Japanese subtitle for Sparking! and things like Neo / Meteor the games officially always had "Sparking" written out in English, even the Amazon Japan listings for the older games have it as "Sparking!" instead of "スパーキング". One could say that maybe the Japanese people reporting the issue typed it out in Japanese out of ease, but then why is "Omega" written out in English? Omega being written out in English makes sense in the series naming schemes as long as it's paired with "Sparking!", it does not make sense in the series naming scheme paired with "スパーキング". There is also the fact that Omega apparently would be the first Sparking game to drop the "Z" moniker. But as anyone who knows where the name "Sparking!" comes from, they know it's a reference to the final line in Head Cha-La, the Dragon Ball Z opening theme...

This doesn't necessarily condemn the game as a fake as I said earlier, Bandai Namco has been very weird in naming schemes this generation.
Hellspawn28 wrote:That could be it was the first HD DBZ game and the game got decent reviews. Most fans that I talk to either like Burst Limit or dislike it. From what I've seen that casual fans enjoy the Sparking games over the Budokai games.
Anecdotal evidence means very little to me. People in my circle, who watched Dragon Ball when it was on TV, and never more prefer Dimps' games. Unless you have sales figures (VGChartz isn't truthful) for the Budokai Tenkaichi games vs. the Budokai games there's no point in arguing. This generation Burst Limit is the best selling game. That is fact.
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Kuwabara wrote:What else can they possibly do?
Stop allowing Spike to make games.
Fixed.
Saimaroimaru wrote:For those who say DBZ fans eat crap, sales say otherwise, those assertions would make since if the sales actually supported such opinions this gen. I think its more of hate for the ps2 Tenkaichi era that has gained steam and transformed into the hate that is the Raging Blast era combined with the already fan dissatisfaction with this gen.
You say this yet Ultimate Tenkaichi, which is by far Spike's worst "thing" (I hesitate to call it a game) shipped more copies than RB2. Though, RB2 got reshipments that we didn't get figures for.
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VegettoEX wrote:Who are the "you guys"...? There are dozens upon dozens of people responding, all with their own individual thoughts. It seems a little unfair to lump everyone together into a single viewpoint.

Dark Souls sold well over a million copies in North America and Europe alone, in addition to whatever From Software sold on their own in Japan. A PC port of that game (and specifically that kind of game) made financial sense. Yeah, Ultimate Tenkaichi/Blast seems to have done better than expected, but the last time they released a "real" DBZ fighting game, the larger fanbase neither bought nor supported it. Why would they do it again? Just because a few folks seems to have rallied behind it six years later?

You're not thinking about this from a business perspective, but instead from a die-hard fan's perspective... which, unfortunately, never works with this franchise.
This generation has seen a fighting game renaissance. I do believe that had Super DBZ been launched this generation instead of on the PS2 it would've been better received outside of Japan, because not only would the game have had the renaissance on its side, it also would've had franchise nostalgia working for it.

However, at this point it seems Capcom has begun to kill the fighting game genre just as they did in the 90s. So I feel it's too late to revive Super DBZ.
dbboxkaifan wrote:Yesterday I took a look at the games Spike developed and they really were low quality, such a shame to not find one decent game. :|
Do you mean Spike's overall output or their Dragon Ball games? If it's their overall output, Spike has made plenty of great games. They've just shown themselves to be very poor at making Dragon Ball games for HD platforms.
The S wrote: What would you have to gain with this being fake? If the game exists and is trash, then you don't buy it... and you aren't affected by it at all, right?
I'm of the opinion that bad products can lead to a bad stigma being attached to a brand. Had Spike not put out terrible samey games this generation I really doubt Dragon Ball would've ever made this list. Spike has proven themselves to be an incompetent studio when making these games, and have shown little in the way of improvement. They are hurting this franchise's reputation in the video game realm. The less opportunities they have to dig themselves a deeper hole the better off Dragon Ball is for it.
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I didn't actually write the content of the Dragon Ball cycle, that was VegettoEX's doing.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat May 19, 2012 3:13 pm

Do you mean Spike's overall output or their Dragon Ball games? If it's their overall output, Spike has made plenty of great games. They've just shown themselves to be very poor at making Dragon Ball games for HD platforms.
Spike has made great games, which are they?

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Post by Rukura » Sat May 19, 2012 3:17 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:I didn't feel the need to point this out because Bandai Namco has been very weird in their naming schemes for Dragon Ball games this generation, but the "rumor" for Sparking Omega had the game's title written out as:

ドラゴンボール スパーキングOMEGA (Dragon Ball Sparking! Omega)

However, previous games in this series by Spike were written out in Japanese as:

ドラゴンボールZ Sparking! (Dragon Ball Z Sparking!)

While it's true that the game's logos did have a Japanese subtitle for Sparking! and things like Neo / Meteor the games officially always had "Sparking" written out in English, even the Amazon Japan listings for the older games have it as "Sparking!" instead of "スパーキング". One could say that maybe the Japanese people reporting the issue typed it out in Japanese out of ease, but then why is "Omega" written out in English? Omega being written out in English makes sense in the series naming schemes as long as it's paired with "Sparking!", it does not make sense in the series naming scheme paired with "スパーキング". There is also the fact that Omega apparently would be the first Sparking game to drop the "Z" moniker. But as anyone who knows where the name "Sparking!" comes from, they know it's a reference to the final line in Head Cha-La, the Dragon Ball Z opening theme...

This doesn't necessarily condemn the game as a fake as I said earlier, Bandai Namco has been very weird in naming schemes this generation.
While that's a good point to note, even in the spine of Sparking! Meteor's box was completely written in katakana (except for the "Z", of course). But, like you said, that doesn't really say much one way or the other.

I still wonder why Raging Blast 1, 2, Tag Vs and Ultimate Blast have been titled as simply "Dragon Ball" when they only cover Z, while the Sparking! games titled under "Dragon Ball Z" covered Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT as well. The logic is...well, just not there, really lol.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat May 19, 2012 3:21 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:There is also the fact that Omega apparently would be the first Sparking game to drop the "Z" moniker. But as anyone who knows where the name "Sparking!" comes from, they know it's a reference to the final line in Head Cha-La, the Dragon Ball Z opening theme...
It would be normal for the game to drop "Z", since every video game after Burst Limit is just called "Dragon Ball: ..." or "Dragon Ball Kai: ..." in Japan.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Sat May 19, 2012 3:47 pm

Rukura wrote:While that's a good point to note, even in the spine of Sparking! Meteor's box was completely written in katakana (except for the "Z", of course). But, like you said, that doesn't really say much one way or the other.

I still wonder why Raging Blast 1, 2 and Ultimate Blast have been titled as simply "Dragon Ball" when they only cover Z, while the Sparking! games titled under "Dragon Ball Z" covered Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT as well. The logic is...well, just not there, really lol.
Was "Meteor" and "Neo" written in Japanese on the spine?

AS for the name changes, I don't know.
dbboxkaifan wrote:Spike has made great games, which are they?

/semi-offtopi
Their Firepro Wrestling, Kenka Bancho, and Dangan-ronpa games are all well regarded.
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Super Saiyan Prime wrote:There is also the fact that Omega apparently would be the first Sparking game to drop the "Z" moniker. But as anyone who knows where the name "Sparking!" comes from, they know it's a reference to the final line in Head Cha-La, the Dragon Ball Z opening theme...
It would be normal for the game to drop "Z", since every video game after Burst Limit is just called "Dragon Ball: ..." or "Dragon Ball Kai: ..." in Japan.
None of those games used a moniker previously attached to a Z game like Omega is. This would be the first Sparking! without Z.
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Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Was "Meteor" and "Neo" written in Japanese on the spine?
Can't say anything for "Neo" since I don't have it, but I'm looking at the Meteor's box right now and the spine has it all in katakana.

Same with Raging Blast 1
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Post by Super Saiyajin Luffy » Sat May 19, 2012 4:07 pm

Rukura wrote:
Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Was "Meteor" and "Neo" written in Japanese on the spine?
Can't say anything for "Neo" since I don't have it, but I'm looking at the Meteor's box right now and the spine has it all in katakana.

Same with Raging Blast 1
Official Neo Logo also has Kana for Neo:
http://dbzs-neo.jp/game_07.html
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Rukura about Sparking Omega wrote:I'm imagining people from Namco Bandai looking at these big sites talking about the announcement and them going "Wait....what?! Did we do that? Are we doing that? *turns to Spike* Are you people doing that?"
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Post by Maphisto86 » Sat May 19, 2012 4:18 pm

Overall I enjoyed the direction Spike took in the Budokai Tenkaichi series but sadly the franchise has been over used and needs a hiatus for some new ideas. Still like others have pointed out already it is likely that will not happen until Namco Bandai is convinced Dragonball as a video game franchise is no longer profitable. After that the hiatus could be quite some time, perhaps even indefinite. :( Then again who knows what a third party could have done with it."Omega" may be fake or not but I cannot say I was invested in it until we got a lot more information so no disappointment here.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat May 19, 2012 4:26 pm

There is not any possibility for this to be real, right?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Rukura » Sat May 19, 2012 4:32 pm

Actually, there is. We don't really know for sure what's happening there.

Who knows. Even if there's nothing in this V-Jump, Namco Bandai might end up having to make it just because of the worldwide hype that it got in a single day without existing lol. (But it does make it even funnier if it really doesn't exist LOL)
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat May 19, 2012 5:09 pm

I will laugh if this ends up becoming fake since I see threads on other forums that over 10 pages long on what the game could be. Everyone is going to be up for a big disappointment.
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Post by LeprikanGT » Sat May 19, 2012 5:45 pm

Just a question for a generic topic for a new game; after watching the new DragonBall Heroes trailer, say Funi couldn't get the rights or what-have-you for any of the movies or specials; do you think they would have their own storyline in a new game and just animate new cutscenes to go along with the events of that timeline? IE; they animated some new SS 3 Trunks and Majin Buu and also some of the new avatar characters in fights with villians from the show.

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