How powerful was Freeza's third form?

[sonikku956]

OK, I don't see how Freeza, who had a BP of 530,000 in his first form and 1,000,000 in his second form, possibly went into the tens of millions of BP. Is there an official BP for Freeza's third form?

[Piccolo Daimao]

To be a tad pedantic, Freeza had a battle power of over 1 million in his second form, and no, there's no official battle power for his third form. Best guess we can make is that he's stronger than Piccolo after merging with Nail, but presumably weaker than Vegeta after his Zenkai from Kuririn (as Vegeta was so confident that he could now defeat Freeza and could track his blasts when Piccolo and co. could not).

[sonikku956]

To be a tad pedantic, Freeza had a battle power of over 1 million in his second form, and no, there's no official battle power for his third form. Best guess we can make is that he's stronger than Piccolo after merging with Nail, but presumably weaker than Vegeta after his Zenkai from Kuririn (as Vegeta was so confident that he could now defeat Freeza and could track his blasts when Piccolo and co. could not).

Quick question: How powerful was Freeza when he first when into his final form (oh and is his power being at 1% BS)?

[Super Vegetto]

Frieza final form: 3,000,000

In the English dub, Frieza states that he had only been fighting at 1% of his full power.

[Darkprince410]

To be a tad pedantic, Freeza had a battle power of over 1 million in his second form, and no, there's no official battle power for his third form. Best guess we can make is that he's stronger than Piccolo after merging with Nail, but presumably weaker than Vegeta after his Zenkai from Kuririn (as Vegeta was so confident that he could now defeat Freeza and could track his blasts when Piccolo and co. could not).

Quick question: How powerful was Freeza when he first when into his final form (oh and is his power being at 1% BS)?

Roughly around 3,000,000, given that Goku (who was established in Daizenshuu 7 as being at 3,000,000) was fighting evenly with him at the time, and there was no indication that he increased his battle power between his fight with Vegeta and his fight later with Goku. The 1% isn't accurate, as it was simply a dub line, since it doesn't appear in the manga and I'm fairly certain it didn't appear in the original anime, but if you go with him having a battle power of 3,000,000 and his full power being at 120,000,000, then he was using roughly 2.5% of his battle power when he first transformed.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Freeza final form: 3,000,000

In the English dub, Freeza states that he had only been fighting at 1% of his full power.

Which is bullshit. 1% of Freeza's power is 1.200.000 (his full is 12.000.000, do the math), and he could keep up with Goku, who was 3.000.000?

[Super Vegetto]

You do realize i writed english dub ?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

You do realize i writed english dub ?

You wrote it like a fact.

[Darkprince410]

Freeza final form: 3,000,000

In the English dub, Freeza states that he had only been fighting at 1% of his full power.

Which is bullshit. 1% of Freeza's power is 1.200.000 (his full is 12.000.000, do the math), and he could keep up with Goku, who was 3.000.000?

Actually his full is 120,000,000 (1% of 12,000,000 is 120,000). The dub did indeed have him make that comment about using only 1% of his power, and given that back then the majority of individuals didn't know about the Daizenshuu or had an assessment of the battle powers that weren't mentioned in the anime, there wasn't really anything available information wise to contradict Freeza's claim.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Actually his full is 120,000,000 (1% of 12,000,000 is 120,000). The dub did indeed have him make that comment about using only 1% of his power, and given that back then the majority of individuals didn't know about the Daizenshuu or had an assessment of the battle powers that weren't mentioned in the anime, there wasn't really anything available information wise to contradict Freeza's claim.

Yeah, typo.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

To be a tad pedantic, Freeza had a battle power of over 1 million in his second form, and no, there's no official battle power for his third form. Best guess we can make is that he's stronger than Piccolo after merging with Nail, but presumably weaker than Vegeta after his Zenkai from Kuririn (as Vegeta was so confident that he could now defeat Freeza and could track his blasts when Piccolo and co. could not).

Pretty much the best way to look at it. FWIW, I always believed his Battle Power was in the early 2 million range.

[Super Vegetto]

If lets say we follow Frieza final form 3mill :

Frieza first form : 530,000
Frieza second form : 1,060,000 - 1,200,000
Frieza third form : 2,120,000 - 2,400,000
Vegeta : 2,500,000 - 2,800,000
Frieza final form : 3,000,000

[Piccolo Daimao]

To be a tad pedantic, Freeza had a battle power of over 1 million in his second form, and no, there's no official battle power for his third form. Best guess we can make is that he's stronger than Piccolo after merging with Nail, but presumably weaker than Vegeta after his Zenkai from Kuririn (as Vegeta was so confident that he could now defeat Freeza and could track his blasts when Piccolo and co. could not).

Quick question: How powerful was Freeza when he first when into his final form (oh and is his power being at 1% BS)?

Freeza only ever stated that he'd initially been using 1% of his power against Gokuu in the English dub. There's nothing like that in the original Japanese version.

The Daizenshuu gave Gokuu a battle power of 3 million, and since Freeza fought evenly with him, I suppose he'd be around that.

[asbereth]

Please refresh my memory, but didn't Goku use Kaio-ken x10, which would put him at 30,000,000 (assuming it works linearly of course)?

[Piccolo Daimao]

Please refresh my memory, but didn't Goku use Kaio-ken x10, which would put him at 30,000,000 (assuming it works linearly of course)?

Yeah. What's your point? He wasn't using it the entire time, and only began using it once Freeza started using 50% of his power.

[Hitiro]

Didn't Frieza say that his forms are there because he can't control his power? Even if in his final form he had 120,000 at 1% of his power then that doesn't mean he can restrain his power to that much. If we take the 25th budokai it was very hard for a masterful martial artist like Goku to restrain his full strength on the punching machine so I can't imagine how difficult it would be for Frieza who probably didn't grow up learning a martial art. We can probably assume that Frieza couldn't restrain his power any less than 25%(3,000,000) of his power.

[Darkprince410]

Didn't Freeza say that his forms are there because he can't control his power? Even if in his final form he had 120,000 at 1% of his power then that doesn't mean he can restrain his power to that much. If we take the 25th budokai it was very hard for a masterful martial artist like Goku to restrain his full strength on the punching machine so I can't imagine how difficult it would be for Freeza who probably didn't grow up learning a martial art. We can probably assume that Freeza couldn't restrain his power any less than 25%(3,000,000) of his power.

You're mistaken on the percentages. Freeza's maximum was 120,000,000 according to Daizenshuu 7, so 25% would be 30,000,000, and even 1% would be 1,200,000

[Bussani]

I'm okay with him being able to "hold back", as it were, to around 3,000,000 or so. Because let's be fair, that's still an insane number compared to everything else in the universe before that point.

[Fox666]

Answering the main question, as far as the official statements goes, Freeza second form is superior to 1,000,000 and the third even more powerfull, but still inferior to 3,000,000 which was Goku's battle power at the time.

[Hitiro]

Didn't Freeza say that his forms are there because he can't control his power? Even if in his final form he had 120,000 at 1% of his power then that doesn't mean he can restrain his power to that much. If we take the 25th budokai it was very hard for a masterful martial artist like Goku to restrain his full strength on the punching machine so I can't imagine how difficult it would be for Freeza who probably didn't grow up learning a martial art. We can probably assume that Freeza couldn't restrain his power any less than 25%(3,000,000) of his power.

You're mistaken on the percentages. Freeza's maximum was 120,000,000 according to Daizenshuu 7, so 25% would be 30,000,000, and even 1% would be 1,200,000

My bad, not had much sleep, I was going off the numbers somebody else give.