Kami's original name

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Kami's original name

Post by theawesomepossum777 » Tue May 22, 2012 7:19 pm

I always wondered this. What was Kami's name before he became "God"? Was his name Piccolo since his evil half had that name?

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Re: Kami's original name

Post by Kaboom » Tue May 22, 2012 7:21 pm

Kuji. 8)

But no, we never did learn his original name. He was only referred to as "the son of Katatz."
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Re: Kami's original name

Post by Jackal puFF » Tue May 22, 2012 7:27 pm

Kaboom wrote:Kuji. 8)

But no, we never did learn his original name. He was only referred to as "the son of Katatz."
There we have it Katatz Jr. Rofl.

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Re: Kami's original name

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed May 23, 2012 12:30 am

Kaboom wrote:Kuji. 8)

But no, we never did learn his original name. He was only referred to as "the son of Katatz."
Personally, I like the name "Conch". It doubles as a gastropod reference and an instrument.
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Re: Kami's original name

Post by Michsi » Wed May 23, 2012 3:45 am

I think it might have been Piccolo. However, considering that after the final fusion, Piccolo states that he decided to keep his name because of the fact that he is the predominant part and no mention that this was always the original name makes me also question this opinion.

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Re: Kami's original name

Post by Fin » Wed May 23, 2012 9:05 am

'Piccolo' means 'another world' in Namekian, which if I recall correctly prompts Bulma to comment that Piccolo Daimao means 'demon king from another world.' Post-fusion, Piccolo considers himself the Namekian who no longer remembers his name. And as Michsi notes above, Piccolo's stated reason for keeping that name suggests it's only the name of the demon half.

I like to think of him as 'Katatson' =D

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Re: Kami's original name

Post by Michsi » Wed May 23, 2012 9:59 am

I think we first need to make a distinction between the name Kami had before he became the god of earth (he probably called himself ) and the one he was supposedly given by his father. Piccolo might have referred to his original namekian name as the one he forgot....

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed May 23, 2012 12:41 pm

I think it's Piccolo, based on what Suupaa Gohan 2 posted in a thread like this a while ago.
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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Wed May 23, 2012 2:02 pm

http://www.dragonballencyclopedia.com/w ... _Namuekian

I know we have our doubts about this source, but it is interesting none the less.
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Re: Kami's original name

Post by Fin » Wed May 23, 2012 3:49 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:I think it's Piccolo, based on what Suupaa Gohan 2 posted in a thread like this a while ago.
This thread?
Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:I kinda like and sorta semi agree with the_abberation's perspective. Using the child's name as the password to operate a completely voice-controlled ship - which Bulma theorized was, in the first place, for the sake of the child surviving and not accidentally screwing things up - makes a lot of sense. It doesn't mean Kami-Sama ever 100% forgot the Namekian language, but he says he probably spent 30-40 years there alone waiting for his parents. He didn't exactly have anyone else to communicate with, so language in and of itself could have easily been something he just...forgot he possessed, due to lack of use. Until assimilating with the rest of the beings on Earth and learning not only their language, but reeducating himself that he could in fact speak in the first place, the language surely returned to memory over time, which is how he was able to use it in the 23rd Budoukai, teach it to Mr. Popo, etc.

When he was flying in the ship, he would have known his language enough to control the ship to the extent necessary. Then he got injured and started using the ship as a house, and didn't have the foggiest that it was a ship. The only word he probably needed to remember was 'Piccolo' to get in and out of his 'house' when he went to look for food and such. Imagine spending 30-40 years in complete isolation where there may only be one single word you ever speak, and you don't remember anything else about your origin. I'd say that even if Kattatsu didn't name his child 'Piccolo' to begin with (and it was indeed only a word for the sake of controlling the ship), that 'the son of Kattatsu' probably still took that word on as his name personally, having become so familiar with it. Finally go into society, meet other sentient beings, learn their language...get asked 'what's your name?' by someone who might not run from you screaming in terror (then again, 'monster-type' earthlings ala Pilaf are out there, so maybe no one would be alarmed by his appearance pre-Daimaoh)...you say the only word that comes to mind, 'Piccolo'. So I kinda like the idea that this is what 'the son of Kattatsu' probably called himself before the split as well, and that all he did was attach 'Daimaoh' to his name to distinguish his evil side, rather than say 'I'm going to create an entire new name for myself'. Thus the good half was probably just plain ol' Piccolo until he became God...and it's not that he said 'okay so my name will just be Kami now', but 'I'm God, no one need address me as anything else anyways, former name discarded'.

I don't think this causes any complications with his refusion line, either. He is no longer the being that the readers/viewers/characters identify as God, nor Piccolo. He has returned to being that Namekian who long since forgot his name, referring to 'the name my parents gave me that I didn't know so I just called myself the spaceship password'. Also the line is just a cool way of conveying the significance of the change, anyways, so it shouldn't be read too deeply into.

Though it makes things difficult when our Ma Junior Piccolo eternally remains the dominant personality, just taking on aspects of Kami-Sama's character like he did Nail's...you'd think it'd be a little different than the Nail merger, since these two were originally two halves of a whole, buuuut...
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Re: Kami's original name

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed May 23, 2012 5:08 pm

Yeah, that's the one. Thanks. :)
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Re: Kami's original name

Post by Fin » Wed May 23, 2012 5:14 pm

No problem. Thanks for bringing the post to my attention. It was worth the time I took to find it.

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Re: Kami's original name

Post by theawesomepossum777 » Thu May 24, 2012 4:59 pm

I guess I'm going to nickname the "nameless Namekian" Clarinet. I mean, Piccolo Daimao and his offspring were named after instruments.

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