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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gonstead » Tue May 29, 2012 12:33 am

Vic Mignogna is great as Broly.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue May 29, 2012 9:02 am

I don't find Dragon Ball Evolution very, very bad, I would give it 3.5/10. I don't mind the changes (e.x. High School Goku), I actually prefer the changes, because I want to see something new based on Dragon Ball, not thye same old thing I've read, watched & played so many times already.
I also don't find Dragon Ball GT bad. In fact, I like it. I understand it's bad written, and the plot is bad, but it had very good (bad executed) ideas, and awesome new forms & villains (especially Super Yi Xing Long).
I also don't find the movies very bad, and I love Dragon Ball Kai.
Finally, I can't stand the FUNi dub, whatever version it is, and I hate the dub names on my video games. :x
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Tue May 29, 2012 12:21 pm

Gonstead wrote:Vic Mignogna is great as Broly.
I didn't think anyone really thought he was bad. Besides, it's not as if Broli has that much in the way of character anyway, so I doubt even FUNimation could somehow get him wrong.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by smantooth6 » Tue May 29, 2012 5:44 pm

I don't know if this counts but Goten is one of my favorite characters. I don't know why, honestly. Maybe it's the fact that he's so innocent.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by AgitoZ » Tue May 29, 2012 8:17 pm

smantooth6 wrote:I don't know if this counts but Goten is one of my favorite characters. I don't know why, honestly. Maybe it's the fact that he's so innocent.
The fact that there's more than one member named after their love for Goten proves that's far from unpopular.
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Post by LiamKav » Wed May 30, 2012 10:11 am

He's also topped more than one "most popular character" poll, both in the US and in Japan, although I think most of them were from before he grew up.

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Post by smantooth6 » Wed May 30, 2012 6:24 pm

Oops. I guess I haven't kept up with the polls. Sorry.

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Post by Fizzer » Thu May 31, 2012 4:32 am

Apart from the flaw that the first movie can't possibly fit into the time line, I actually like the Garlic Junior arc. If they hadn't made it a sequel to a non-canon movie but had kept most other things in tact, it would be a pretty good fantasy story. It makes a change from have fight > win fight > everything's better.

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Post by Michsi » Thu May 31, 2012 5:47 am

He's also topped more than one "most popular character" poll, both in the US and in Japan, although I think most of them were from before he grew up.
He did? The last poll from Japan I remember was with Krillin being nr.1. Don't know much about the US polls though....

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by LiamKav » Thu May 31, 2012 3:41 pm

Oops, sorry, thought you said "Gohan", not "Goten".

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Hades » Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:21 pm

I think Colleen Clinkenbeard's Gohan is somewhat overrated. Yeah, it's a step up from the old dub's Gohan, but it wasn't the best thing since sliced bread.
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:50 am

Hades wrote:I think Colleen Clinkenbeard's Gohan is somewhat overrated. Yeah, it's a step up from the old dub's Gohan, but it wasn't the best thing since sliced bread.
I didn't think people were saying that. I think people were just happy to have someone that actually sounded like a natural kid for once.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Hades » Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:59 am

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Hades wrote:I think Colleen Clinkenbeard's Gohan is somewhat overrated. Yeah, it's a step up from the old dub's Gohan, but it wasn't the best thing since sliced bread.
I didn't think people were saying that. I think people were just happy to have someone that actually sounded like a natural kid for once.
For me, the voice was too high pitched to the extent that I couldn't take her Gohan seriously (it's one thing for a voice to be natural, but another to be credible). I'd have personally gone for MasakoX as Gohan or failing that, Brina Palencia.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:42 pm

Hades wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Hades wrote:I think Colleen Clinkenbeard's Gohan is somewhat overrated. Yeah, it's a step up from the old dub's Gohan, but it wasn't the best thing since sliced bread.
I didn't think people were saying that. I think people were just happy to have someone that actually sounded like a natural kid for once.
For me, the voice was too high pitched to the extent that I couldn't take her Gohan seriously (it's one thing for a voice to be natural, but another to be credible). I'd have personally gone for MasakoX as Gohan or failing that, Brina Palencia.
Really? I don't think it was that high-pitched, and besides, a lot of kids' voices sound high-pitched anyway. Brina Palencia would be a good Gohan, but I'm perfectly happy with Clinkenbeard's. Perhaps you need to give it time to warm to, if you haven't already.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Travis Touchdown » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:04 pm

I realized I forgot one.

Unpopular Opinion #7: Ultra Super Saiyan & Ultimate Super Saiyan are not true transformations.
I hear a lot that USSJ and USSJ2 are unique Super Saiyan forms. I don't consider them that. To me, they're nothing more than pumping ki into your muscles, similar to how Master Roshi does so when he creates a Full-Power-Kamehameha or what Frieza does when he reaches 100%.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:34 pm

Travis Touchdown wrote:Unpopular Opinion #7: Ultra Super Saiyan & Ultimate Super Saiyan are not true transformations.
I hear a lot that USSJ and USSJ2 are unique Super Saiyan forms. I don't consider them that. To me, they're nothing more than pumping ki into your muscles, similar to how Master Roshi does so when he creates a Full-Power-Kamehameha or what Freeza does when he reaches 100%.
If they hadn't changed the hairstyle (Grade 2 even changed Vegeta's unchanged hairstyle) and if they weren't treated as different forms in Daizenshuu, I wouldn't consider them as transformations either.

And here is another unpopular opinion (or theory?) I have. I believe that once someone achieves Super Saiyan Full Power, he can access the power of Super Saiyan Grade 2 & 3 without growing the huge muscles. Why? Because since normal Super Saiyan is technically Grade 1, and the others are Grade 2 & 3, the Grade 2 & 3 are sub-transformations of the Super Saiyan form. So, Super Saiyan Full Power is an upgrade form that replaces the 3 Grades.
So, Super Saiyan Full Power is a combination of the normal form, the Super Saiyan form, the Super Saiyan Grade 2 form & the Super Saiyan Grade 3 form.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Akumaito Beam » Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:40 pm

Travis Touchdown wrote:I realized I forgot one.

Unpopular Opinion #7: Ultra Super Saiyan & Ultimate Super Saiyan are not true transformations.
I hear a lot that USSJ and USSJ2 are unique Super Saiyan forms. I don't consider them that. To me, they're nothing more than pumping ki into your muscles, similar to how Master Roshi does so when he creates a Full-Power-Kamehameha or what Freeza does when he reaches 100%.
I agree 110% on this one. I don't know what idiot (if it was the Daizenshuu I still totally stand by this idiotic thing) started that naming scheme because it really just over complicates matters by far.

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:38 pm

Travis Touchdown wrote:Unpopular Opinion #7: Ultra Super Saiyan & Ultimate Super Saiyan are not true transformations.
I hear a lot that USSJ and USSJ2 are unique Super Saiyan forms. I don't consider them that. To me, they're nothing more than pumping ki into your muscles, similar to how Master Roshi does so when he creates a Full-Power-Kamehameha or what Freeza does when he reaches 100%.
Yeah, I agree. Also, I dislike the terms "USSJ" and "USSJ2", because "USSJ2" misleads people into thinking it's a stronger version of Super Saiyan 2.
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Post by MisguidedGhost » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:06 pm

I actually really like Pan as a character. It seems like she gets a lot of hate in the DBZ community, and I never really understood that.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Beji » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:27 pm

Hades wrote:
Hades wrote:I think Colleen Clinkenbeard's Gohan is somewhat overrated. Yeah, it's a step up from the old dub's Gohan, but it wasn't the best thing since sliced bread.
For me, the voice was too high pitched to the extent that I couldn't take her Gohan seriously (it's one thing for a voice to be natural, but another to be credible). I'd have personally gone for MasakoX as Gohan or failing that, Brina Palencia.
^This in a nutshell for me. It is actually the reason I don't have the rest of Kai(only parts 1-5 for a bargain). I don't mind it so much when she is talking but the yelling and screaming is unbearable. I'm probably going to end up re-syncing up the old FUNI's voice over on blu-rays. I thought Freeza's was odd at first bit it was just different and I grew a liking to it. Gohan's for me did not.

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