What does the "M" letter stands for?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The "M" letter that Babidi & co. have, does it stand for Majin or Madoshi (did I spell that right?)? For Boo, I guess it's Majin. But what about the others?

[Piccolo Daimao]

It's never mentioned in the series what the "M" stands for. It could be "Majin", it could be "Madoushi", it could be an alien symbol that happens to resemble an "M" (like the "S" symbol on Superman's costume).

By the way, "Majin Vegeta" is entirely a fan term. I think he was officially named "Demon Prince Vegeta" or something like that.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

By the way, "Majin Vegeta" is entirely a fan term. I think he was officially named "Demon Prince Vegeta" or something like that.

He is indeed named Demon Prince Vegeta. Though, Majin Vegeta isn't entirely a fan term. It started like a fan term, but FUNi took it and made it official, which is why he is called Majin Vegeta in video games (non-Japanese) & other English merchandise. Same thing happened with terms like Super Buu, Mystic Gohan, Kid Buu, etc.

[Fox666]

As far I know, "Majin" is supposed to mean "magical person" (while a "Majuu" like Yakon is a "magical creature"), and since Vegeta is not a sorcerer, it doesn't make sense much to call him a Majin. That would be the same thing as calling Piccolo controlled by Doctor Uiro as "Doctor Piccolo".

[VegettoEX]

As far I know, "Majin" is supposed to mean "magical person" (while a "Majuub" like Yakon is a "magical creature"), and since Vegeta is not a sorcerer, it doesn't make sense much to call him a Majin. That would be the same thing as calling Piccolo controlled by Doctor Uiro as "Doctor Piccolo".

I think you're stretching and applying logic to different things where it doesn't make any sense to do so.

First clarification is that Yakon is referred to as a "majuu", or "demon beast" -- "Majuub" is just some FUNimation-specific name for the fusion of Uub and Buu, isn't it?

Second, none of Dr. Uiro's henchman take on any sort of name, and he doesn't have any sort of identifying symbol, so using him as any type of example doesn't make any sense.

Third, just because he could be called "Majin Vegeta" doesn't imply that you're calling him a sorcerer/warlock, but rather that he's the product of one. It works in this case, unlike your "Doctor" example. In and of itself, "Majin" literally just means "magical/demonic being/person"... which is exactly what Vegeta is at that point, having both been partially taken over by an evil wizard, and simultaneously becoming a more magical/demonic person than he was before.

Of course, our "Demon Guide" covers everything you probably want to know. Many of the things being paraphrased in this thread are written more completely on that page, and with the citations and references to explain them.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Of course, our "Demon Guide" covers everything you probably want to know. Many of the things being paraphrased in this thread are written more completely on that page, and with the citations and references to explain them.

!!! Error in the guide! The pictures of Babidi & Yakon are named as Majin Buu (manga) & Majin (Dragon Ball Online).

[Hitiro]

As far I know, "Majin" is supposed to mean "magical person" (while a "Majuu" like Yakon is a "magical creature"), and since Vegeta is not a sorcerer, it doesn't make sense much to call him a Majin. That would be the same thing as calling Piccolo controlled by Doctor Uiro as "Doctor Piccolo".

Majin is also another word for Genie or Djinn. Seeing as Boo is infact a Djinn it is understandable that Majin could be referencing him being a Djinn.

[Zephyr]

The 'M' stands for "Makaioshin". Initially, Bibidi and Babidi were part of a cult of Makaioshin worshiping Madoushi, whose rituals and antics occasionally caught the eye of the Kaioshin themselves, resulting in their meddling in the cult's affairs. Bibidi and the rest of the cult get their powers from the Makioshin themselves. After some time, Bibidi and the cult leaders came to a disagreement regarding Bibidi's conduct, resulting in his and his son's expulsion from their ranks. In a bid to get revenge on the cult, and to finally cease the Kaioshins' incessant meddling, he signed a pact with and made a great sacrifice to the Makaioshin he so vigorously worshiped, wishing to attain a great destructive power. Things went a tad hectic, as they might when trying to sign a pact with a great magical evil, and Buu was inadvertently created. Thus, Buu is a Makaioshin product, explaining why his magic clashes with the Kaioshin magic.

There's my take on it, even though the symbol just happening to look like an english M is much more plausible.

[Bussani]

I'd accept that the "M" could mean majin if it were just on Buu and the people controlled by Babidi, but it also seems to be on everything else he owns (his ship, his version of a scouter, etc). I got the impression it was a family crest--probably something that pre-dates Buu--so "madoushi" seems more likely to me. I do like the idea that it just happens to look like an "M", however.

[Mystic Gohan]

I would assume it to be majin.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Yeah, that's the thing: how could it stand for something beginning with the English "M"? Even though seemingly everyone in the known universe speaks the apparently universal language of the gods, the scouters used a different language/symbol system, and Blooma had to switch it to their system so that she could understand it. It's probably the same with Bobbodi: their family crest that just happens to resemble the English "M" that just happens to precede their title (Madoushi).

The 'M' stands for "Makaioshin". Initially, Bibidi and Babidi were part of a cult of Makaioshin worshiping Madoushi, whose rituals and antics occasionally caught the eye of the Kaioshin themselves, resulting in their meddling in the cult's affairs. Bibidi and the rest of the cult get their powers from the Makioshin themselves. After some time, Bibidi and the cult leaders came to a disagreement regarding Bibidi's conduct, resulting in his and his son's expulsion from their ranks. In a bid to get revenge on the cult, and to finally cease the Kaioshins' incessant meddling, he signed a pact with and made a great sacrifice to the Makaioshin he so vigorously worshiped, wishing to attain a great destructive power. Things went a tad hectic, as they might when trying to sign a pact with a great magical evil, and Buu was inadvertently created. Thus, Buu is a Makaioshin product, explaining why his magic clashes with the Kaioshin magic.

I always imagined that there were more akin to freelance gifted Madoushi who, unlike the Kaioushins, could travel to and from the Makaioushin Realm. Bibbidi, presumably one of the last members of his kind, was eager to overthrow the universe, including the Kaioushins in the afterlife, but didn't tell the Makiaoushin this. He approached them with a magic deal, meaning that they'd lend some of their magic to contribute to his experiments. So Bibbidi was fucking around with his dark/black/demonic magic, shit blew up, and Majin Boo was born. Like if you threw a bunch of chemicals into a pot and it made an explosive reaction.

Between flitting from world to world taking Boo's shell with him, the even more gifted Bobbodi was born, and Bibbidi passed down the magic spell and told him that if he were to ever be killed by the Kaioushin, he must avenge him and continue their plot for universal domination. Sometime after this, Bibbidi was killed by the east Kaioushin, and Bobbodi kept to his promise.

[The Time Traveller]

Madoushi, of course. It's like their family crest, or maybe it's the symbol of their people. Why would it stand for Majin if Majin Boo is the creation of Madoushi Bibidi?

Though it could just be Ma.

Ma-doushi Babidi. Ma-jin Boo. Ma-ouji Vegeta. Ma-juu Yakon.

What was Dabra's title? Makaiou? Am I making that up?

since Vegeta is not a sorcerer, it doesn't make sense much to call him a Majin.

Well Vegeta's title, when under the spell of Madoushi Babidi, is Maouji, Demon Prince.

[012yArthur0]

As far I know, "Majin" is supposed to mean "magical person" (while a "Majuu" like Yakon is a "magical creature"), and since Vegeta is not a sorcerer, it doesn't make sense much to call him a Majin. That would be the same thing as calling Piccolo controlled by Doctor Uiro as "Doctor Piccolo".

Well, I always thought like:

Vegeta: Big bang attack!
No.19 : What sorcery is this?!
*explodes*

But yeah, we can also say that Vegeta as a product of a magic, not a magical producer. Like they said.