Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
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by dbboxkaifan » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:58 am
dragonpiece wrote:Hey, don't know if I can make a thread on this or not(please tell me if I can, more advertisement the better), but I am selling Dragon Box 2 with a starting bid of 175$ and you can buy now for 200$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DragonBall-Z-Dr ... 500wt_1156
I seem to be the only one besides someone else selling Dragon Box 2 on Ebay so play consider purchasing! Edit: Will post pictures of the set as soon as this Ebay finishes loading on my Iphone!
$175 is quite expensive just for a FUNi Dragon Box Z but I've seen other auctions where people paid far beyond $200 just for a mere FUNi Dragon Box Z too.
Good luck getting a buyer for $175.
FUNimation 2015 Releases I want:
- Kai 2.0 on Blu-ray
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by Pokewhiz7 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:47 pm
eledoremassis02 wrote:Not to get off topic but...does the Big Green DVD's have Japanese audio?
I believe so, but only with dubtitles.
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by Raithos » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:14 pm
Hmm I need some cash, how much do you think i could sell the entire set of 7 d boxes for?
All mint, sealed and new?
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by Krycek7o2 » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:41 pm
Raithos wrote:Hmm I need some cash, how much do you think i could sell the entire set of 7 d boxes for?
All mint, sealed and new?
I'm sure you can net over 500 at this point. And since they are sealed, that's a big plus.
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by Raithos » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:44 pm
Krycek7o2 wrote:Raithos wrote:Hmm I need some cash, how much do you think i could sell the entire set of 7 d boxes for?
All mint, sealed and new?
I'm sure you can net over 500 at this point. And since they are sealed, that's a big plus.
Yeah I put them up for 500
And listed individual ones too
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by SSJToreto » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:18 pm
Raithos wrote:Krycek7o2 wrote:Raithos wrote:Hmm I need some cash, how much do you think i could sell the entire set of 7 d boxes for?
All mint, sealed and new?
I'm sure you can net over 500 at this point. And since they are sealed, that's a big plus.
Yeah I put them up for 500
And listed individual ones too
How come you've never opened them, if you don't mind me asking?
Just curious.
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by Raithos » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:26 pm
SSJToreto wrote:
How come you've never opened them, if you don't mind me asking?
Just curious.
I wanted to own them becuase I wanted the complete series, just never opened them. Didn't really feel like it, I've seen dbz more times than I can count and I remember the series like the back of my hand. With the internet I can watch any episode anytime, so having the tangible sets in my hand are almost just like a collectable item for me
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by LiamKav » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:45 pm
Raithos wrote: With the internet I can watch any episode anytime, so having the tangible sets in my hand are almost just like a collectable item for me
Er...
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by Pokewhiz7 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:50 pm
LiamKav wrote:Raithos wrote: With the internet I can watch any episode anytime, so having the tangible sets in my hand are almost just like a collectable item for me
Er...
You can on Hulu, but of course it's the beautiful orange brick footage.
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by eledoremassis02 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:07 pm
Pokewhiz7 wrote:LiamKav wrote:Raithos wrote: With the internet I can watch any episode anytime, so having the tangible sets in my hand are almost just like a collectable item for me
Er...
You can on Hulu, but of course it's the beautiful orange brick footage.
Since flipping over the "free" dragonball on the old Napster/Etomi/random dbz sites..I have come to the point where I'd rather have physical sets now. I don't bother to watch them online anymore for some reason... Even GT (which I am watching for the first time)..I've heard some bad review (a lot) and I have seen a few episodes back when Super5.com was readily available. But, I could easly watch it online but I don't lol.
However, if you purchase the product, I don't see any problem with watching it online (especially if it's a rare item).
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by rereboy » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:28 pm
LiamKav wrote:Raithos wrote: With the internet I can watch any episode anytime, so having the tangible sets in my hand are almost just like a collectable item for me
Er...
It's illegal, but when you actually own the product (sometimes, multiples times in multiples releases or editions), it certainly becomes more of a question of still being illegal according to the black and white letter of the law than actually still being morally condemnable or questionable.
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by LiamKav » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:50 pm
I agree. On the other hand, if you did buy it but then sell it for a massive profit, are you still morally entitled to watch the show for free from YouTube or whatever?
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by rereboy » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:26 pm
Its a sticky question... It will vary on someone's opinion.
In my opinion, a person that sells away his product no longer has the moral ground to download illegally that said product without it being condemnable or questionable since he received monetary compensation for the product which even outs the fact that he payed for it (even if doesn't even out mathematically it does even out morally).
When we still have the product, downloading the same product, even if it is illegally, is basically the same as creating a digital copy of the product and even within the law of many countries, its legal to have a copy of a product that we bought (and from a moral standpoint, I don't see how it can be condemnable or questionable). We are simply downloading it from elsewhere, instead of creating one ourselves, but its still just a copy of a product that we bought and own. This is no longer exactly the case if we sold away our product.
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by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:33 pm
dbboxkaifan wrote:dragonpiece wrote:Hey, don't know if I can make a thread on this or not(please tell me if I can, more advertisement the better), but I am selling Dragon Box 2 with a starting bid of 175$ and you can buy now for 200$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DragonBall-Z-Dr ... 500wt_1156
I seem to be the only one besides someone else selling Dragon Box 2 on Ebay so play consider purchasing! Edit: Will post pictures of the set as soon as this Ebay finishes loading on my Iphone!
$175 is quite expensive just for a FUNi Dragon Box Z but I've seen other auctions where people paid far beyond $200 just for a mere FUNi Dragon Box Z too.
Good luck getting a buyer for $175.
When you consider the fact that 3 edited, dub-only episodes use to cost $20 it's not that bad. Fans are a little spoiled these days, I think.

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by eledoremassis02 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:35 pm
rereboy wrote:Its a sticky question... It will vary on someone's opinion.
In my opinion, a person that sells away his product no longer has the moral ground to download illegally that said product without it being condemnable or questionable since he received monetary compensation for the product which even outs the fact that he payed for it (even if doesn't even out mathematically it does even out morally).
When we still have the product, downloading the same product, even if it is illegally, is basically the same as creating a digital copy of the product and even within the law of many countries, its legal to have a copy of a product that we bought (and from a moral standpoint, I don't see how it can be condemnable or questionable). We are simply downloading it from elsewhere, instead of creating one ourselves, but its still just a copy of a product that we bought and own. This is no longer exactly the case if we sold away our product.
You bring up a good point. What about those who buy copy and sell the original? Sounds like an obvious question really, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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by LiamKav » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:48 pm
eledoremassis02 wrote:You bring up a good point. What about those who buy copy and sell the original? Sounds like an obvious question really, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
I don't see how that's any different from just downloading it in the first place. It's wrong, morally and legally, and if anything it's slightly worse because you can actually afford the original.
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by LiamKav » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:50 pm
LiamKav wrote:eledoremassis02 wrote:You bring up a good point. What about those who buy copy and sell the original? Sounds like an obvious question really, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
I don't see how that's any different from just downloading it in the first place. It's wrong, morally and legally, and if anything it's slightly worse because you can actually afford the original.
In the interests of full disclosure, I have downloaded things before. I downloaded Transformers Prime from torrents. The series wasn't out on DVD or Blu-Ray, and the only way I could watch it was to watch episodes that had been ripped from their original US airings. Once the series is available in my region on Blu-Ray, I'll buy it, even though I've already seen the episodes. I am okay with that morally, but it is technically illegal.
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by rereboy » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:03 pm
eledoremassis02 wrote:rereboy wrote:Its a sticky question... It will vary on someone's opinion.
In my opinion, a person that sells away his product no longer has the moral ground to download illegally that said product without it being condemnable or questionable since he received monetary compensation for the product which even outs the fact that he payed for it (even if doesn't even out mathematically it does even out morally).
When we still have the product, downloading the same product, even if it is illegally, is basically the same as creating a digital copy of the product and even within the law of many countries, its legal to have a copy of a product that we bought (and from a moral standpoint, I don't see how it can be condemnable or questionable). We are simply downloading it from elsewhere, instead of creating one ourselves, but its still just a copy of a product that we bought and own. This is no longer exactly the case if we sold away our product.
You bring up a good point. What about those who buy copy and sell the original? Sounds like an obvious question really, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
I'm not sure I understood your question. You mean keeping a copy after selling the original?
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by eledoremassis02 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:11 pm
rereboy wrote:eledoremassis02 wrote:rereboy wrote:Its a sticky question... It will vary on someone's opinion.
In my opinion, a person that sells away his product no longer has the moral ground to download illegally that said product without it being condemnable or questionable since he received monetary compensation for the product which even outs the fact that he payed for it (even if doesn't even out mathematically it does even out morally).
When we still have the product, downloading the same product, even if it is illegally, is basically the same as creating a digital copy of the product and even within the law of many countries, its legal to have a copy of a product that we bought (and from a moral standpoint, I don't see how it can be condemnable or questionable). We are simply downloading it from elsewhere, instead of creating one ourselves, but its still just a copy of a product that we bought and own. This is no longer exactly the case if we sold away our product.
You bring up a good point. What about those who buy copy and sell the original? Sounds like an obvious question really, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
I'm not sure I understood your question. You mean keeping a copy after selling the original?
With things that arn't available, I don't think there should be any problem downloading them. Well, I was thinking about the Dragon Boxes in particular. Some people have made copies because they didnt want over use the discs. But then say they have to sell the originals for some reason. Also..in the U.S, is there a law against making personal copies (and not selling the original?)
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by rereboy » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:26 pm
I think that it would be basically the same as downloading the product after selling it. You would no longer have the moral ground for it to not be morally questionable or condemnable.
The point of having a copy is preventing the original from getting ruined from use, or being able to still enjoy the product that you bought and own despite the fact that the original became ruined for some reason. Being able to gain money from it (by selling the original) while still having a copy of it to use and enjoy is definitely not the point of it.
I think that having the original, even if its ruined, would be essential for keeping the moral ground.
I'm not american nor do know much about it but I think that in the USA its legally allowed to have a copy of the product for the purposes that I stated.