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by CaBrPi » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:12 pm
Gyt Kaliba wrote:That's what it looks like to me. Which is an idea I really like, now that I think about it. It'd be something unique to him, and it makes sense that he'd spend most of his time toying with that form since he'd be on hi sown more or less back in his time.
Yeah, I agree. Definitely not what I was expecting, but not disappointing at all.
And doesn't Grade 3 have the same power output as Super Saiyan 2 anyway?
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by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:16 pm
CaBrPi wrote:Yeah, I agree. Definitely not what I was expecting, but not disappointing at all.
And doesn't Grade 3 have the same power output as Super Saiyan 2 anyway?
I think both versions of the show said that the power output was similar, but I've always gotten the feeling that SS2 is actually stronger overall as well. But they're probably pretty close.
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by CaBrPi » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:17 pm
Ah, right.
Something else I noticed though, looking back a couple of pages- South Kaioshin and Dabra look... remarkably similar.
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by Rocketman » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:35 pm
Huh, a unique and interesting take on a character.
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by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:43 pm
I thought Trunks only transformed into a regular Super Saiyan? His muscles don't look engorged.
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by CaBrPi » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:45 pm
Piccolo Daimao wrote:I thought Trunks only transformed into a regular Super Saiyan? His muscles don't look engorged.
Dude, his muscles are huge in that panel of him holding onto Vegeta's wrist. Just look at his biceps and compare them to the previous panel showing them.
Or his hands.
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by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:53 pm
Hmm...actually, Daimao may have a point, slightly. His muscles are definitely more engorged in those last few panels then they were before, but they're not quite to THIS point yet.
But looking at his temple, he's got one of those stressed, pulsing veins, going on. So maybe he's just mid-transformation at this point. I think he's definitely on his way to the form at any rate, based on Vegeta's reaction.
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by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:54 pm
CaBrPi wrote:Piccolo Daimao wrote:I thought Trunks only transformed into a regular Super Saiyan? His muscles don't look engorged.
Dude, his muscles are huge in that panel of him holding onto Vegeta's wrist. Just look at his biceps and compare them to the previous panel showing them.
Or his hands.
Hmm...yeah, now I see it. He does look quite a bit larger than Vegeta. It's probably because I'm used to seeing his Super Saiyan Grade III in Saiyan armour.
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by CashmanX » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:10 pm
It looks like he's about to cut down Vegeta, judging from the bottom panel....
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by Sshadow5001 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:50 pm
I guess that he came to the realisation that in his 3rd form he can't catch his opponant...however grabbing them then transforming is another way to go about it.
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by goku the krump dancer » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:37 pm
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by Scarz » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:33 pm
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by JulieYBM » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:12 pm
Interestin' turn of events. I wonder if Trunks can switch between forms on the turn of a dime now, allowing him to change from speed to power or something.
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by Saiga » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:45 pm
Meh, I don't like it. Grade III is a crappy form, and Trunks abandoned it to master the Super Saiyan form like the others. Why go back and master Grade III when it is inferior? And if he went to the effort to do that, why wouldn't he aim for SS2 instead, which is far superior?
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by Kingdom Heartless » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:21 am
I'm loving this turn of events, but the artwork is still sorely lacking. I guess I was just spoiled after re-reading the Vegetto vs. Broly pages, which were drawn amazingly.
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:57 am
Saiga wrote:why wouldn't he aim for SS2 instead, which is far superior?
We don't know what Salagir has in his mind about which of the two forms is stronger.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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by Saiga » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:01 am
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Saiga wrote:why wouldn't he aim for SS2 instead, which is far superior?
We don't know what Salagir has in his mind about which of the two forms is stronger.
I'm not talking about which one is stronger, since we don't know that, but we know from the canon story that SS2 is superior.
Of course that wouldn't matter to Salagir either I suppose.
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:03 am
Saiga wrote:I'm not talking about which one is stronger, since we don't know that, but we know from the canon story that SS2 is superior.
Of course that wouldn't matter to Salagir either I suppose.
He ignores the 10x multiplier for Oozaru, and I think even the 50x multiplier for Super Saiyan. Both of them are from Toriyama.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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by rereboy » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:13 am
Saiga wrote:Meh, I don't like it. Grade III is a crappy form, and Trunks abandoned it to master the Super Saiyan form like the others. Why go back and master Grade III when it is inferior? And if he went to the effort to do that, why wouldn't he aim for SS2 instead, which is far superior?
Only 10 years have passed from Trunks point of view and, like he said, he has been busy rebuilding the world. Vegeta has been training for 30 years and he hasn't been busy with nothing else.
Those are the reasons why Trunks hasn't reached SSJ2 yet. If he trained as hard as his father, 10 years would probably be enough for him to reach the form (since Vegeta did it within 7 years) but he has been busy like he said.
But he also has been training, he has improved, and even though he still hasn't reached SSJ2, he has developed his techniques, including the Grade forms, to be more effective.
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by .:PoetikaL:. » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:53 pm
So Trunks plans to use that technique huh? Well now...
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