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Post by samuraix123 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:44 pm

I also would like to know how to go about doing this. :) I've been wanting to get those extra scenes that they did not include into the original Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans.
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Post by Zestanor » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:09 pm

There's probably digital video files somewhere on the disc, but a normal computer wouldn't be able to rip them. I think your best bet would be to play the game and capture the video to your computer.

Also, there might be a ROM of game somewhere on the internet. It would probably be easy to find the cutscenes if that were the case.

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Post by rereboy » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:47 pm

There are no existing emulators for Playdia as far as I know, so there is no way to play a rom or the original game on the PC.

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Post by oXdanXo » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:08 am

You could use a capture card whilst the game is playing and record all of the footage or you could see if a dvd authoring program would work since the playdia is quite an old machine the way they would have structured the cd could have been similar, if all else fails take the playdia apart do a bit of diy and research some form of coding (C++ for example) and rip the entire disc before sorting out the bits you want.
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Post by rereboy » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:51 am

The only effective way I can think of is actually having the original console and game and actually record all the existing footage while it plays on a TV using any method capable of recording what is playing on a TV, and save the recordings as video/audio files on the computer.

After that, you would only have to create a dvd using a dvd authoring program that emulates all the different options and choices that the original game had (since the only interaction the game had with the player was through simple choices), and place the corresponding footage in the corresponding choice. And you could also add subtitles to each part of the footage. When finished, you would just have to burn the DVD into a DVD disc and "voila".

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Post by Rukura » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:56 am

I think the big problem in using a capture card to record as it's being played is that we don't know how much animation is actually there.

The game seems to have so many branching paths, there might be some animation hidden in the disc that we've never seen. That's why it would be better to have a way to just grab all the files from the discs themselves.
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Post by rereboy » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:07 am

Rukura wrote:I think the big problem in using a capture card to record as it's being played is that we don't know how much animation is actually there.

The game seems to have so many branching paths, there might be some animation hidden in the disc that we've never seen. That's why it would be better to have a way to just grab all the files from the discs themselves.
Yes, but that seems impossible. There is no emulator for the plataform and no way to recognize the game disc or image of the disc (and what is inside it). The only way to actually read it is with the Playdia itself.

It would be necessary to create an emulator from scratch and that is pretty damn hard.

It would actually be much easier to play the game several times and record every instant of footage there is (which shouldn't take more than a couple of days, especially with the guides and the like on the internet detailing all the different paths and such).

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Post by Beji » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:42 pm

A Playdia is the next thing on my list of things to buy since I just got both games. If i am able to get one I will eventually capture all the clips which should be good enough/ But ripping or extracting is completely out of my knowledge for the Playdia.

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Post by Ashura » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:58 pm

Ripping the raw video more depends on what format the disks were stored in and which video codec it used. Does someone actually have the game disk and can examine the file structure of the game?

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/sh ... 4abce6bebb

This thread suggests that it's likely MPEG1 encoded, which would make sense because MPEG1 decoders were kind of popular back then.
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Post by rereboy » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:24 pm

Ashura wrote:Ripping the raw video more depends on what format the disks were stored in and which video codec it used. Does someone actually have the game disk and can examine the file structure of the game?

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/sh ... 4abce6bebb

This thread suggests that it's likely MPEG1 encoded, which would make sense because MPEG1 decoders were kind of popular back then.
But if the computer can't recognize the disc itself and actually "open" it to individually select, see and rip what is inside. So how would we be able to do it?

Its like having a ROM of a SNES game for example... There are video and music files in it, but the computer doesn't recognize it. It can't open it and see what is inside. Its necessary to have a program capable of doing like a emulator that simulates the SNES to actually play the game or, more elaborately, rip the video and music files into another format. But for Playdia, no such program exists.

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Post by Krycek7o2 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:25 pm

Ashura wrote:Ripping the raw video more depends on what format the disks were stored in and which video codec it used. Does someone actually have the game disk and can examine the file structure of the game?

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/sh ... 4abce6bebb

This thread suggests that it's likely MPEG1 encoded, which would make sense because MPEG1 decoders were kind of popular back then.
If it's MPEG1, the file which holds the video will most likely be a .DAT file. Similar to how VCDs contain them.

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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:34 pm

Popped in one of them, and there's only three files on the disc:

CRIGHT (1 KB)
DRAGON.AJS (751,203 KB)
DRAGON.GLB (1 KB)

I'm sure there are video files sitting in there somewhere, but without actually knowing how to go about searching inside the file, there's nothing useful to just immediately grab. Dragging the giant file over to VirtualDub suggests it is indeed a VideoCD stream, but it conks out with an "MPEG Import Filter: packet sync error on packet stream at position 1338393 (timestamp marker bits not set)" error a couple seconds into the process.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:41 pm

rereboy wrote:It would be necessary to create an emulator from scratch and that is pretty damn hard.
There's quite a lot of emulators out there so whoever knows how to program them maybe could do a Bandai Playdia emulator.

According to Wikipedia the disc format of the console is CD-ROM, so it can be read on the PC but the files remain to be unlocked.

Each game's file size is around 657 MB and 666 MB fits perfectly in a regular CD of 700 MB's.
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Post by Ashura » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:59 pm

Thanks Mike. DRAGON.AJS is the file we'd need to look at since it's the one that's 750 megs, though that'll be obvious to most.

AJS is likely a container format with a bunch of different video files in it. We'd need to figure it out, but I'm assuming it's not too complicated. Really, someone with the game needs to open it up in a hex editor and check things out.

Mike, do you have VLC player? If so, try opening up the AJS with VLC player. It might be slightly broken, but VLC isn't picky about what's dumped into it usually even if it doesn't have the right headers, and can sometimes play most streams. You can dump files from MGS2 into it, for instance, and pull up some of the unused picture data.
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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:06 pm

Yeah, of course I tried tossing it into VLC :). No dice. Guess I probably could have said that :P.
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Post by Ashura » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:09 pm

Ahh, thanks. I wonder if the video headers aren't there or it's formatted strangely.

I need to get a copy of the game and take a look at it. I think my buddy up the road has a copy of them, so I'll see if he'll let me borrow it later today when I see him after work.
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Post by Raykugen » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:12 pm

I have a dvd with the first disc put on a dvd5, and the second, but this one it's incomplete, an spanish guy did it, but everything get fucked without megaupload
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Post by DanielGClapp » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:29 pm

Hey if anyone figures out how to do this, and maybe sub them, I'd pay for someone to ship me a burned DVD or something. Just PM me.

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