Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:14 pm

And like I said, I wasn't disagreeing with you :mrgreen:

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Attitudefan » Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:44 pm

rereboy wrote:And like I said, I wasn't disagreeing with you :mrgreen:
It's for the other members ;)
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:33 pm

The extra detail in Toriyama's work is really what distinguishes it the most from Gogeta Jr. moreso than the actual art style. The little flourishes like the way Nappa's armor reflects the light or the gravel/grass on the ground is the kind of thing you don't see in DBM. Ultimately, DBM just doesn't have the same depth and that's probably what causes the most dissonance.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by mattymoron » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:48 pm

I don't think it'll be necessary in this fight, but I'm banking that Vegeta has discovered a Super Saiyan 2 Grade 2. Seems like something he would do.

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Post by Scarz » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:34 pm

Honestly, I don't think I want Gogeta Jr. (or any other artist for that matter) to copy Toriyama's style exactly. I like seeing different takes on the style, even if it isn't an exact copy. I'm not saying it's impossible to copy Toriyama signature look, I'm just saying why would you want to? Why not add you're own twist even if just a slight difference.

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Post by Michsi » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:55 pm

Scarz wrote:Honestly, I don't think I want Gogeta Jr. (or any other artist for that matter) to copy Toriyama's style exactly. I like seeing different takes on the style, even if it isn't an exact copy. I'm not saying it's impossible to copy Toriyama signature look, I'm just saying why would you want to? Why not add you're own twist even if just a slight difference.
I agree with this! I often realized I enjoyed fan art and doujinshi with a drawing style very different from the original far more than those who always tried to mimic it. Most of the time it feels forced and unnatural.
As for this fan comic in particular, I don't know if changing the style now would be good move, considering that trying to stay as true as possible to the original style is one of it's main selling points.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by hleV » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:52 pm

Scarz wrote:Honestly, I don't think I want Gogeta Jr. (or any other artist for that matter) to copy Toriyama's style exactly. I like seeing different takes on the style, even if it isn't an exact copy. I'm not saying it's impossible to copy Toriyama signature look, I'm just saying why would you want to? Why not add you're own twist even if just a slight difference.
Not knowing how to draw in Toriyama's style already has the same result as "adding your own twist". While in the specials it's obviously not even tried to mimic Toriyama's style, Gogeta Jr. tries to do exactly that. And it doesn't go too well for him. At least in comparison to other fanmangas.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Attitudefan » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:28 am

Gogeta Jr's art reminds me of the Triangle Crap art with the faces. The bodies are in okay proportion but look stiff in movements (like Last House)
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TonyTheTiger » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:51 pm

The art has changed to some extent. Reread the Cell vs. Dabra fight (still probably the best one so far) and compare it to more recent fights and you'll notice just how much more detailed it is. In fact, I think the change came roughly after Vegetto vs. Broly once they shifted to a pure white sky.

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Post by rereboy » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:59 pm

Yes, it has changed.

Like it has been said, its probably due to the artist's lack of time to fill in the details and improve it further.

But it continues to be much better than any triangle crap, IMO.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dprez » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:08 pm

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They are so even...Trunks must've actually been training pretty hard.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:48 pm

Meh. I still don't think they are even. Trunks does keep surprising Vegeta, but I'm waiting for Vegeta to stop holding back on the next page and just dominate the beam struggle.
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Post by Attitudefan » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:50 pm

This is a great example of how weirdly Vegeta is drawn. He looks too tall as well.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dprez » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:52 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Meh. I still don't think they are even. Trunks does keep surprising Vegeta, but I'm waiting for Vegeta to stop holding back on the next page and just dominate the beam struggle.
Because Vegeta is holding back is why they're even right now. And yes, Vegeta needs to win this beam struggle.

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Post by rereboy » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:04 pm

Attitudefan wrote:This is a great example of how weirdly Vegeta is drawn. He looks too tall as well.
Trunks is kind of "squatting" in preparation for his sword blow which should make him closer to the ground. Also, height is pretty inconsistent in both the manga and anime, including Vegeta's height, so... :|

As for the rest, I don't think I see anything weird. Perhaps he is kind of weird in the third panel, but that pose is weird on itself, especially from that angle, so I don't know if it's more of Gogeta Jr's fault or the pose. I definitely don't see anything weird about him in the first or last panel.
dprez wrote:And yes, Vegeta needs to win this beam struggle.
Unless he continues to hold himself back during the beam struggle :P

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by dprez » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:23 pm

I think he's had enough and will end Trunks little show right here during this beam struggle. The previous pages last panel tells us he's seen all he needs of this technique and is ready to end the match.

Trunks must know he can't over power his fathers Ssj2 level beam, so I could see him zipping out of the way similar to Freeza vs Goku's kamehameha, and trying to directly attack Vegeta again. Either way, I doubt Trunks will come out of this beam struggle unscathed.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Scarz » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:01 pm

I really, really hope this match doesn't end in a beam struggle.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:05 pm

It won't. It will last for a few more pages.

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Post by Scarz » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:08 pm

rereboy wrote:It won't. It will last for a few more pages.
Only a few more? This makes me sad (But at the same time I understand that it shouldn't drag for too long).

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:10 pm

Scarz wrote:I really, really hope this match doesn't end in a beam struggle.
Unlikely, but I'd like it if Vegeta pumped a bit more power into his attack, overwhelming Trunks and sending him sprawling backwards and skidding across the ring in a crouched position. When he finally regains himself and gets ready to charge again, he looks up and see's his father holding his hand point blank to his face, mocking him in a fathery-Vegeta way.
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