DBZ Budokai HD Collection: Official On-Going Thread

[Hellspawn28]

they can easily do another HD collection with B2 and IW.

It seems like a waste to re-release two games that most people didn't like. Why bother to waste time and money on re-releasing those two. IW was pretty much was Budokai 3 with a weak story mode and a few new characters.

[Insertclevername]

they can easily do another HD collection with B2 and IW.

It seems like a waste to re-release two games that most people didn't like. Why bother to waste time and money on re-releasing those two. IW was pretty much was Budokai 3 with a weak story mode and a few new characters.

As for IW, from what I've seen it seems like a competent improvement to the gameplay and mechanics. With it removing Dragon Rush, better organising transformations by making it one capsule, upping the difficulty, putting more emphasis on canceling and pulling together aspects introduced in the Shin Budokai games. And besides most people that didn't like Budokai 2 primarily just bitched about the story mode/ Board game, since at the time, they wanted a good representation of the Boo saga with cut scenes. But looking at that now, those complaints are completely irrelevant.

[MCDaveG]

AB is making the price bigger to the max, and after all, prevents us from having videogames with the original sountracks of DBZ.

WHAT?! Why the f do they even have the rights to that? We're STILL getting screwed by the AB Groupe after so long?! Damn it! Someone, END that company!

I cannot express the ammount of hate I feel toward that company...before knowing they've even been f up the games too...

Well, it's from Treevax who did the interview with the Japanese Namco Bandai stuff about the future generation of Dragon Ball games and sadly, this is true as I have it confirmed simply by French Dragon Ball soundtracks with music from Kikuchi released in France.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

I think multiple HD collections is overkill. Hell we're even lucky we're getting one; Dragonball was the last franchise I thought would ever get an HD collection release. It sucks that 2 isn't going to be included but outside of the what-if characters you aren't really missing anything. It plays like Budokai 1 and looks like Budokai 3. Namco-Bandai is just catering to the people("We want the awesome storymode that was in the first Budokai game!/ "Budokai 3 was the best in the series!). Budokai 2 doesn't really get much love from anyone so they probably felt fans wouldn't care. And I don't really blame them. If we do get another collection it will most likely be for the Sparking games. I don't think we'll get(nor is it necessary to have) a collection with IW, Super DBZ, and Budokai 2.

I like that they are using this to buy a little more time for a better game next year. Who knows this could also be a way to see what fans want. If it sells better then the RB games we might see a revitalization(I've used that word twice today) of traditional styled fighting games.

[dbboxkaifan]

If we do get a Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi: HD Collection they don't need to include BT1 as BT2 and BT3 are the best of the BT series.

Music = BT2
Story = BT3 (Covers DB, DBZ, DBGT, DB extras and Dr. Slump and Arale-chan)
Gameplay = BT3 (It's quick, easy and fun)
Characters = BT3 (160 characters is a ton to choose from - some are just the same though they're different types: Early | Mid | End)

BT1 gameplay videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHS8U6d5CAM (Yamamoto: Flight in the Dark Side)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_EA3ShmwrQ

The gameplay of BT1's dull, uninteresting, slow and boring (don't forget the camera issues) but yet, the music was easily far superior to BT3's as it was a replacement from Budokai 3 so it figures why (Kenji Yamamoto).

[Insertclevername]

What about just re-release Meteor with the BT2 replacement score? It would just be more efficient.

However, I agree with SparkingPantsMcGee (funny name BTW ), its time we move on and support this game, maybe Dimps might see a return if this is successful? Maybe then we can have love put into the games....

[DarkPrince_92]

If we do get a Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi: HD Collection they don't need to include BT1 as BT2 and BT3 are the best of the BT series.

Music = BT2
Story = BT3 (Covers DB, DBZ, DBGT, DB extras and Dr. Slump and Arale-chan)
Gameplay = BT3 (It's quick, easy and fun)
Characters = BT3 (160 characters is a ton to choose from - some are just the same though they're different types: Early | Mid | End)

I agree with most of this...but BT3 skimmed the story....even though it covered each saga/arc....I mean they put in Future Gohan....and there was no explanation for him.....Spopovich...who is waste of space, but got no story. AND I remember in the Android saga it went from like Goku vs 19 to Second Form Cell vs 18 (...the fuck?!).

And even if there were an ass ton of characters..... I still found myself skipping over rows of characters tryign to find a decnet character who didn't feel like the next.

Burst Limit did a good job of differentiating each characters fighting style....i.e. Nappa is more simple behemoth type attacks while Piccolo was more arm stretchy, aggressive type attacks. I loved that.

[JeffJarrett]

What about just re-release Meteor with the BT2 replacement score? It would just be more efficient.

However, I agree with SparkingPantsMcGee (funny name BTW ), its time we move on and support this game, maybe Dimps might see a return if this is successful? Maybe then we can have love put into the games....

BT2 had a great RPG-like story mode which was not in BT3, not counting the what-if stories (Raditz, Zerbon, etc.)

[Hitiro]

It seems like a waste to re-release two games that most people didn't like. Why bother to waste time and money on re-releasing those two. IW was pretty much was Budokai 3 with a weak story mode and a few new characters.

IW world is much better than Budokai 3 in terms of game mechanics, the introduction of Aura burn which allows for greater movement as well as additional attack methods for more combos. Plus the introduction of Aura guard which prevents damage while eating away at your ki, these two elements also add more depth to the ki-centred metagame established by Budokai 3. They re-worked a few of the characters combos to make them more balanced than B3 and gave some characters, like Goku, much easier combo methods like >PKK- KKKK- PPPK into SDF. Also they included forward and back charge attacks which have increase some characters, like Goku's, approach options in the fight.

It also has a better shop than B3 where you would have to hop in and out of it just to find the skill you were looking for, IW just gives you the skills while you move through the story mode so you can purchase them as you progress. This is great as people like Goku or Gohan can do quite a few good combos with their secondary attacks which can be used to juggle if you cancel them quick enough. Also IW fixes neutral P's ability to out-prioritise the opponents TC ability which was present in B3, I agree with you on the weak story mode however, they should have just kept it the same as B3.

[Super Sayian Prime]

I'm fairly certain the only people who didn't like Infinite World were the press. Which is weird as heck since the game is a heavy refinement of the critically lauded Budokai 3, and launched at a budget price.

Besides guys, the next HD Collections will be:
Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi HD Collection (2013)
Dragon Ball Z Forgotten Games HD Collection (2014)

The 2014 Collection will include Infinite World and Super DBZ.

I want to believe.

[Saiga]

I don't think BT should get it's own HD Collection. BT1 and BT2 aren't worth including with BT3.

[Rory]

I can't stand that it's just 1 and 3. Like, really, it's annoying me.
Budokai 3 (or preferably Infinite World), Sparking! METEOR, and Super Dragon Ball Z would've just made so much more sense, and they'd have had my money day #1. There'd have been so much game-play variety, it would've pleased so many fans, and they'd have only had to replace 1 score .
I like that it has a noticeable visual upgrade (though I'm not a huge fan of the Dragon Ball Heroes shine), and it's cool that we're even getting this... I just wish I wanted to buy it, but I really don't.

[Bluebolt]

The selection for the collection (Ba-Dum-Tss) is rather odd.
That said, I'd have much preferred:

B3 (Given),
BT3 (it was fun, and a lot of people liked it) and especially
SDBZ (with the recent rise in FGC it would have made sense, a lot of people had missed out on this, perfect time to bring it back and see what happens)

I can't help but feel they are being extremely lazy, graphical quality doesn't seem to have upgraded that much (heck I heard an emulator can do the same) and no online? I understand why the OST was changed.

**On that note, I'd like to pose a question perhaps make a new thread for this:

Why is it that Dragon Ball name is suffering from the 'cash in on the franchise' name syndrome?
Sure there were a few good games, but none were super amazing, and there are far too many rubbish ones. Why?
Are we to blame? (Last game I bought was BT3)

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

It's a licensed anime product. They have a contract to churn out a game every year and there really isn't a whole lot of time put a lot of passion and feeling into it. These games are no different from the less then stellar Spiderman games or most of the other licensed movie/anime titles. There are but a few games that break these expectations, the most notable being the Arkham games. Those were a love project from fans of both Batman and video games and stuff like that doesn't happen too often. That's not to say it can't happen but don't expect too much anytime soon.

Understand, they aren't out to make your life miserable or to put out shitty games; they are just locked into a pretty crappy(but somewhat normal) business deal. It happens. Obviously this business model isn't working and if this means anything (http://nostal.deviantart.com/#/d56v2ws) Namco-Bandai could be changing things for the better.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I see some people in this thread hoping for more HD collections but I highly doubt it. I think this will be the only HD collection that we are likely getting. Adding B2 and IW into collection seems like a waste since most fans didn't like those two games. I hope Bandai will waste money putting B2 and IW into one disc.

Most people didn't like the first Budoukai either, yet that's going to be in this HD collection. But Budoukai 2 actually improved on the graphics and the gameplay, touched up the cinematics for the ultimate attacks, added some new characters (including Boo arc and what-if characters), a unique board game story mode that covered the Boo arc, a couple of extra modes like that one with Bobbodi.

[Hellspawn28]

I think the first Budokai is only added because it's the 10th anniversary of the game. If Budokai flopped back in 2002, then we won't have any games like we do now. I think the game being a big hit is the reason why they keep on making games after 2002.

[MasterVampire]

I recently tried playing B3 and BT3 for the first time ever and they are good games.

However I think B3 is the better of the two because of the gameplay where as BT3 is more open like the raging blast games.

But BT3 really is the complete package. So many characters and stages.

[DarkPrince_92]

Comic Con Stage Demo

[Jord]

Those white stripes on Raditz's model look ugly.

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

"Will there be any additional content for the HD release?"

"Er...uh...ummm...trophies and achievements!!!"