Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[jjgp1112]

Just how different do seven and nine-year-olds look, though? Serious question. I mean, Trunks, who's older than Goten in one year, was only a tad taller than him. I guess Toei just didn't feel the need to change their designs if they were practically the same. This isn't a 12-year-old to 15-year-old jump like with Gokuu at the 22nd Tenkaichi Budoukai.

The only real problem I have with them not looking any older is that Yamcha (I think) actually goes up to them and compliments them on how big they've gotten. While I'm sitting there watching and thinking, "No. No, they haven't." But I guess in the real world we say that to kids too even when we don't mean it.

Well, Freeza deduces that Gohan must be Raditz's son based on how he looks nothing like Vegeta or Nappa (even though, to us, Raditz looks nothing like Gohan either; he actually bears more of a resemblance to Vegeta), and Gokuu remarks on how Vegeta and future Trunks look alike too. I guess it's to do with artistic style (especially with Toriyama's limited character designs) and how it can be hard to show off certain detailed characteristics on just paper the way you can in real-life. Something like that.

I think the two things that make it apparent that Trunks and Vegeta are related is the tan skin and the "evil eyes."

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I think the two things that make it apparent that Trunks and Vegeta are related is the tan skin and the "evil eyes."

[Gonstead]

Oh god their ears!

[samuraix123]

I thought there was something (anime filler maybe?) where one of the super-warriors mentions that Trunks and Vegeta have the same eyes.

I just got through watching the series again and can't remember Funimation's Dub - Freeza says ''They have the same eyes'' in the scene were trunks goes super saiyan in front of him. but he's thinking of Goku. Excuse the terrible quality. Someone says this is 1080p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWRAAs_aceE

[Attitudefan]

Trunks has Vegeta's large forehead as well. When Raditz showed up, at that time, nobody had that style of eyes or hair. We forget this because we got used to how saiyans look. Think back to dragonball though. Yamcha, Roshi and Tiens features were present on humans. The larger round eyes like Goku were not present on anybody (Krillin did, kind of; his were more asian thin at first). The large hair as well, was not present on any human either.

[Gaffer Tape]

I don't know if I'd go that far. For the most part, Toriyama draws two types of eyes: good guy eyes and bad guy eyes. The good guys have open, big round eyes, and the bad guys have closed, smaller eyes. Vegeta and Raditz on their first appearances, have the same kinds of eyes that Yamucha and Tenshinhan do. Goku (and of course his sons), Kuririn, Blooma, and Chichi all have open, rounded eyes. Now that's not to say it's completely consistent, as Namu and Muten Roshi have bad guy eyes too, while Oolong has good guy eyes, but the closed eyes certainly aren't an attribute exclusive to Saiya-jin.

And Yamucha's hair is pretty large and spiky as well, quite a bit like Goku's.

[Toadster]

I would actually prefer Broly to be a SSJ3 over Vegeta, because he's been dead and in the afterlife for a long time just like Goku. The whole feeling around SSJ3 is a heavenly/angelic kind of a thing. It only goes with a halo.

But they could still do something interesting with Vegeta, just not SSJ3...

Gotenks doesn't have a halo. Took him two weeks to get it.

And really, Broli was weak-sauce. For him to get SS3 just because he's been dead for a while makes it sound like it's a give-away to dead guys. Not to mention that if this is based on the manga, he wouldn't have a body in hell to learn SS3 with in the first place.

I'm not a Broly fan in the slightest, but he's by no means "weak-sauce." By the time he died for good, he was SSJ2 tier. Probably around Majin Vegeta level.

[AnimeMaakuo]

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[Saiga]

I'm not a Broly fan in the slightest, but he's by no means "weak-sauce." By the time he died for good, he was SSJ2 tier. Probably around Majin Vegeta level.

Certainly not Majin Vegeta level, or he would have broken Gohan like a twig. He was also done in by a group Kamehameha fired by SS1's.

[Hellspawn28]

I'm not a Broly fan in the slightest, but he's by no means "weak-sauce." By the time he died for good, he was SSJ2 tier. Probably around Majin Vegeta level.

I think he means that he is weak-sauce compare to the DBZ character after the Buu saga. Mystic Gohan would kill Broil in one attack.

[hleV]

Trunks has Vegeta's large forehead as well.

I wouldn't say that. He seems to have a normal forehead, just like Goku or Gohan, with exceptions sometimes.

Vegeta and Raditz on their first appearances, have the same kinds of eyes that Yamucha and Tenshinhan do.

Technihan's eyes are a little different than the rest's. Broli in base form seems to have that kind of eyes as well.

Certainly not Majin Vegeta level, or he would have broken Gohan like a twig. He was also done in by a group Kamehameha fired by SS1's.

And in movie #8 Broli got defeated by a single worn-out SSJ who received some energy from other worn-out fighters.

I'm as well pretty sure movie #10 Broli's somewhat on Majin Vegeta's level, so don't go around swinging words like "certainly" if you don't want to start a long argument in a non-related thread. In movie #10, it was a beam struggle rather than generic punch, so it was SSJ Gohan + SSJ Goten + (possibly) SSJ Goku's Kamehameha + little support of Trunks against Broli's attack. For me it looks like it'd overpower even high-tier SSJ2s.

[Saiga]

I'm as well pretty sure movie #10 Broli's somewhat on Majin Vegeta's level, so don't go around swinging words like "certainly" if you don't want to start a long argument in a non-related thread.

Except that he's fighting a rusty Gohan, not someone like Vegeta or Goku. Even though he's winning, it's not by such a large amount that Goku and Vegeta are supposed to be.

[MCDaveG]

What? It's been confirmed that there will be Brolli???

[sangofe]

What? It's been confirmed that there will be Brolli???

And where did you hear this?

[MCDaveG]

What? It's been confirmed that there will be Brolli???

And where did you hear this?

There is this crazy discussion above me, which kinda scared me, as I really don't wanna have Brolli or faux SSJ3 except for Vegeta

[Piccolo Daimao]

What? It's been confirmed that there will be Brolli???

And where did you hear this?

There is this crazy discussion above me, which kinda scared me, as I really don't wanna have Brolli or faux SSJ3 except for Vegeta

No Broli, don't worry.

[Hellspawn28]

If AT is part of the writing then I doubt he will have Broli in the story. It's not even his creation and I doubt he even remember designing the character since the movie came out nearly 20 years ago.

[Attitudefan]

I don't know if I'd go that far. For the most part, Toriyama draws two types of eyes: good guy eyes and bad guy eyes. The good guys have open, big round eyes, and the bad guys have closed, smaller eyes. Vegeta and Raditz on their first appearances, have the same kinds of eyes that Yamucha and Tenshinhan do. Goku (and of course his sons), Kuririn, Blooma, and Chichi all have open, rounded eyes. Now that's not to say it's completely consistent, as Namu and Muten Roshi have bad guy eyes too, while Oolong has good guy eyes, but the closed eyes certainly aren't an attribute exclusive to Saiya-jin.

And Yamucha's hair is pretty large and spiky as well, quite a bit like Goku's.

That's over simplifying it. He draws four or five different eye types. Yamcha first off had the tenshinhan eyes. Those are the oval (oriental looking) eyes. Then there's the Later style Yamcha eye type which is taller, thinner eye style but it is not like the Goku or Raditz eye type (Bora had this eye type to name another). There are the Yajarobi eye type which is what Krillin had as well when he was first introduced (this is the stereotype oriental eyes). Then there is Goku's eye type which is round and open. He is really the only character who had this eye type (Krillin was given this later on, in the anime, they coloured it in with his skin tone). There is the evil Piccolo/Raditz eye, which was round and the line for the eye connected all the way around beneath the brow.

Females typically had 2 eye types. Bulma's and Chichi's. I don't feel like explaining these, go look at some pictures.

[Cipher]

That's over simplifying it. He draws four or five different eye types. Yamcha first off had the tenshinhan eyes. Those are the oval (oriental looking) eyes. Then there's the Later style Yamcha eye type which is taller, thinner eye style but it is not like the Goku or Raditz eye type (Bora had this eye type to name another). There are the Yajarobi eye type which is what Krillin had as well when he was first introduced (this is the stereotype oriental eyes). Then there is Goku's eye type which is round and open. He is really the only character who had this eye type (Krillin was given this later on, in the anime, they coloured it in with his skin tone). There is the evil Piccolo/Raditz eye, which was round and the line for the eye connected all the way around beneath the brow.

Females typically had 2 eye types. Bulma's and Chichi's. I don't feel like explaining these, go look at some pictures.

Aren't you missing the Freeza/Android 19/17/18 eye type? It's pretty distinct and also shows up on villainous female characters throughout the series. Also, why are we talking about this?

[JeffJarrett]

Also, why are we talking about this?

Because of the kids appearantly not aging in movies taking place during the 10-year time period between Kid Buu's defeat and the 28th Budokai Tenkaichi:

Just how different do seven and nine-year-olds look, though? Serious question. I mean, Trunks, who's older than Goten in one year, was only a tad taller than him. I guess Toei just didn't feel the need to change their designs if they were practically the same. This isn't a 12-year-old to 15-year-old jump like with Gokuu at the 22nd Tenkaichi Budoukai.

The only real problem I have with them not looking any older is that Yamcha (I think) actually goes up to them and compliments them on how big they've gotten. While I'm sitting there watching and thinking, "No. No, they haven't." But I guess in the real world we say that to kids too even when we don't mean it.

Well, Freeza deduces that Gohan must be Raditz's son based on how he looks nothing like Vegeta or Nappa (even though, to us, Raditz looks nothing like Gohan either; he actually bears more of a resemblance to Vegeta), and Gokuu remarks on how Vegeta and future Trunks look alike too. I guess it's to do with artistic style (especially with Toriyama's limited character designs) and how it can be hard to show off certain detailed characteristics on just paper the way you can in real-life. Something like that.